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[copied from a different thread. I have moved on some time ago, but decided to come back to leave with this final post. See ya'll.]

This qualifies as trolling in itself, as baiting an entire race of people. Saying that every African American believes that AIDS was invented by the government is just plain wrong. You've had a past history B0zzy, and it's really starting to catch up to you. Perhaps you need to preview what you type before you post it.

B0zzy: 1-Week Forum ban for Trolling


ROFLMAO!

Euro - Your double standards were always amusing, particularly when it comes to flames - like http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9575517&postcount=11Hmm, maybe you are closer to the owner of that puppet nation than we thought? http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9618444&postcount=30

That was pretty much the thread where you and others demonstrated that this is not the place for free discussion of ideas at all. It is about conforming to a liberal standard - Or for those brave enough not to conform; being a good little objector and behaving by a separate set of rules. I really lost interest in participating once I exposed the hypocrisy here - hence my lower recent post count.

Why I am laughing today is you go and try to convert a generalization into a flame. Well excuhuuuuuse me! Sorry - I forgot that we are only allowed to generalize about fundamentalists, Christians, conservatives, white males, the rich, and other 'safe' targets. A generalization (which I backed backed with a link to the documented fact (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9793600&postcount=64) it is based on) about one of your liberal golden calves however is a FLAME. How dare I forget my place.

I'll be a good little conservative and go to the back of the bus now. Sorry for not clearly stating that I was only referencing a majority opinion (in one case) or substantial number (in the other).

Half of the demographic would never take offense at my statement since they have already stated they agree with it. It is YOU who is flaming them for accepting my statement as an insult. Would it also be insulting to the other half had I generalized the opposite? Ha - you can't answer that without exposing your overzealous attempt at a gotcha.

You and many other mods here are funny to me not because I consider it a 'conspiracy' as much as you have no idea how your bias is so transparent. There are many mods who are very immature - they can't even handle criticism. I have little doubt that I'll be banned by them for having the audacity for addressing this. I've seen in the past how poorly you all handle criticism - similar to Communist China - remove the dissenter - censor the message and terminate the thread if it does not go your way. Which brings me back to the fact that this forum is really not about the free discussion of ideas at all.

You see, when someone shares an idea which is unpopular there will be more folks upset about it than compared to popular ideas. You have been one of the most egregious offender of not grasping that concept. You mistake a volume of responses (from a minority of posters) as an indication that my posts are 'problematic' yet you chose to ignore considerably more blatant offense (like the link I provided) simply because the same busy-bodies who complain about one engineer the others - so there are fewer complaints.

Euro - You are modding like a judge in a popularity contest instead of trying to evenly apply the rules. The only history I have is one of not breaking the rules (as most moderations threads eventually begrudgingly discovered), but just making people really angry by not succumbing to their low-brow antics. You have let them manipulate you - willingly or not.

And that is what makes this whole thing so funny to me. This forum states it wants non-conforming ideas discussed, then applies a different set of rules to those who share them -then wonders why there is such a majority her of one particular idea set.

Have you never wondered why would anyone want to hang out and be treated like a second class citizen? THAT is the reason why this forum is more homogenous than others. Those who disagree with your accepted standard simply get fed up and leave - like I have.

Sorry, I change my mind - I don't think I will sit at the back of the bus after all. I'll just get off here.




I'll be AMAZED if B0zzy is not publicly executed for pointing out your 'lack of clothes'. If I am not then I'll visit now and then and share my unique perspectives. (though not nearly as often as when I thought this forum was serious) but most likely B0zzy dies - laughing.

Party on dude - be excellent to each other.

-B0z

Oh, fuck...

That was pretty much the thread where you and others demonstrated that this is not the place for free discussion of ideas at all.
It's a private forum, so here they're god and they make the rules.

then they shouldn't claim it is. That is why I am laughing.

Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on your way out.

Oh, you were expecting a plea for you to stay and grace us with your presence? Stay and fight or get the hell out.:rolleyes:

LOL - thanks for the advice Nazz. C-ya.

(though here in the south the term is "Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya."

I never was looking for a fight - just a discussion. I've got no intention of fighting with the mods. What's the point? Don't you know they're always right? heh.

Ever see one admit they were wrong?

I'd rather you stayed, even though we agree on next to nothing. But enough with the whiny "mods are unfair to me" bullshit.

I'd rather you stayed, even though we agree on next to nothing. But enough with the whiny "mods are unfair to me" bullshit.

You may be surprized at how much we do agree on. I'f I'm not banned I'll stop by... but likely I am banned. I'd rather be banned than be treated as I have been.

Oh please, B0zzy. Anybody with half a brain can see that Euro did the right thing.

Oh please, B0zzy. Anybody with half a brain can see that Euro did the right thing.

Now there you go, flaming people with half brains...

Oh please, B0zzy. Anybody with half a brain can see that Euro did the right thing.
*only has half a brain* :(

*only has half a brain* :(

...tied behind my back and I still pwn you. :)

*only has half a brain* :(
Were you offended? We need a law! ;)

I thought conservatives where opposed to people playing the victim...

be careful - generalizations are flames and can get your banned. :)

I thought conservatives where opposed to people playing the victim...

You must have missed the memo. It was circulated a while back revoking that policy.

Were you offended? We need a law! ;)
I think a $10,000,000 settlement would be enough to help the emotional scars.

You must have missed the memo. It was circulated a while back revoking that policy.
Kind of like that policy where the President doesn't make comments on ongoing investigations. You know, except when they involve his buddy from Texas who's being trashed in a partisan witch hunt and 9/11 9/11 9/11 terror terror terror!

Kind of like that policy where the President doesn't make comments on ongoing investigations. You know, except when they involve his buddy from Texas who's being trashed in a partisan witch hunt and 9/11 9/11 9/11 terror terror terror!

He 'splained himself tonight on NewsHour with Jim Lehrer. Apparently he was just refering to the presumption of innocence, or so he claimed. Make of that what you will.

It's sort of non-event to me anyway. I gave up actually listening to what politicians actually say sometime in the early ninetees.

Oh please, B0zzy. Anybody with half a brain can see that Euro did the right thing.
Potaria, you've got a bit of brown on you. No, a little higher up, yeah, right on the nose.

Ever see one admit they were wrong?Frisbeeteria retracted a warn of me and The Parthians for "flaming" when we notified each other politely that we were ignoring each other. After he discussed the issue with other moderators, he found out that polite notifications of ignores were NOT flames, retracted the warn, and apologised.

Potaria, you've got a bit of brown on you. No, a little higher up, yeah, right on the nose.

Now, now. I'm hardly a fan of Euroslavia, but in this case, what he did was right.

You may be surprized at how much we do agree on. I'f I'm not banned I'll stop by... but likely I am banned. I'd rather be banned than be treated as I have been.

a little cheese with the wine please..lol

i dont even know you,but cut and run is for pussies...not saying you are.:fluffle:

Actually B0zzy I thought you were banned ages ago, I'm surprised you're still around.

B0zzy, shut the fuck up. You're acting like the stereotypical conservative, You're disingenuously acting like a victim.

I could get banned for this but why the ban,
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9793600&postcount=64
That post was not flaming, It was demonstrating the lack of knowledge that some people have. That they are black is immaterial.
If you said Blacks are stupid because they think this, that I ban you for, but the post I saw just showed that some people are stupid. You probably should not have specified solely blacks though. I would bet a lot of others would think the same

You wasted a minute of my life with your post and I want it back.

I could get banned for this but why the ban,
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9793600&postcount=64
That post was not flaming, It was demonstrating the lack of knowledge that some people have. That they are black is immaterial.
If you said Blacks are stupid because they think this, that I ban you for, but the post I saw just showed that some people are stupid. You probably should not have specified solely blacks though. I would bet a lot of others would think the same
you are right - you may get banned for not conforming to approved thought here: Facts are irrelevant. That you noticed their error already marks you as a troublemaker - as you already conceed. The survey was specific to blacks - I have no reason to bury that fact. That some people don't like the facts is irrelevant - except to the NS thought police.

I am still surprized that I am here. Where are the godmods? Must be setting up their 'Holiday' Tree.

Damn, and when I saw the thread and poster I was thinking "One Bushevik Down." Then again I don't expect them to hold up to a commitment (they send others to hold it up for them, take a look at Iraq as an example ;D)

So let me get this straight -- are you TRYING to get banned by trolling and being insulting?

I am still surprized that I am here. Where are the godmods? Must be setting up their 'Holiday' Tree.
Or maybe you're not nearly as important in the grand scheme of things as you seem to think yourself to be ... ;)

Attempted 'suicide' by Mod. It's never pretty.

Even in his "swan song" B0zzy is being deceptive. He was not banned for the link that he includes in his opening post.

He was banned for this post (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9793125&postcount=51):

Umm, isn't that the same demographic which thinks AIDS was invented and spread by the government and OJ didn't do it?

Thus, Euroslavia's correct response:

This qualifies as trolling in itself, as baiting an entire race of people. Saying that every African American believes that AIDS was invented by the government is just plain wrong. You've had a past history B0zzy, and it's really starting to catch up to you. Perhaps you need to preview what you type before you post it.

B0zzy: 1-Week Forum ban for Trolling

Note that B0zzy makes the same claims in his defense that he has every time he gets caught violating the rules. (1) Others are getting away with it, (2) What I said was true, (3) Mods just hate conservatives.

As to (2), if you look at his sources they do not back his claim that the entire African-American population -- or even a majority thereof -- "thinks AIDS was invented and spread by the government." So his "truth" defense is actually a lie.

EDIT: BTW, if you read about the Tuskegee experiments (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html), you may understand why some African-Americans are more willing to believe in such a conspiracy. For 40 years the U.S. Public Health Service tricked 399 African-American men into suffering the late stages of syphillis with fake treatments.

EDIT2: Just for the record, it is well documented that B0zzy and I don't get along, so I'm far from objective about this.

Or we could just not care. What's one minor troll more or less?

Or we could just not care. What's one minor troll more or less?

Nice. Its witty comments like that one which induces people to belive that the mods are responding emotionallly to an issue instead of rationally. If you didn't like the topic ban him, no need to to post your viewpoint. My two cents at least.

What's emotional about that? And why should they give him what he obviously wants? I think the most 'rational' response is what we've seen - shrugging it off, because it just doesn't warrant that much attention.

People are going to think what they want about the Moderators, regardless of what they do or don't do. *shrugs* As it's always been, and as holds for pretty much any of us. Besides, is there some written law they can't respond as they like, with their own 'two cents', same as anyone else?

Damn but this sort of thing is amusing, what with some of the comments that come out of the woodwork. Everybody's got an agenda.



Oh, what's mine? Just attempting to get folks to stop and think using whichever means that don't cross the line into rulebreaking.

Why?

Well, why not?

Nice. Its witty comments like that one which induces people to belive that the mods are responding emotionallly to an issue instead of rationally.Apathy and indifference is "emotion"? Funny... I thought they tended to represent a lack of emotional investment.

So he thinks there's a Mod conspiracy. Why should I care?

So he thinks every Mod is a liberal. Why should I care?

Seriously, why should his dillusions and wildly inaccurate claims matter in the slightest? Why on earth would I give an emotional responce to delusions of relevence?

If you didn't like the topic ban him, no need to to post your viewpoint.Do you grasp the implications of this? Do you honestly want us to ban people because we don't like their topics? I thought you didn't want emotional responces. Given the political differences between the Mods, if every mod locked every thread they didn't agree with, General wouldn't have any viable topics.

As for your second clause, when did Moderators lose the ability to express viewpoints? It always surprizes me when people suggest that Mods aren't allowed to have or express opinions.

Apathy and indifference is "emotion"? Funny... I thought they tended to represent a lack of emotional investment.

So he thinks there's a Mod conspiracy. Why should I care?

So he thinks every Mod is a liberal. Why should I care?

Seriously, why should his dillusions and wildly inaccurate claims matter in the slightest? Why on earth would I give an emotional responce to delusions of relevence?

Do you grasp the implications of this? Do you honestly want us to ban people because we don't like their topics? I thought you didn't want emotional responces. Given the political differences between the Mods, if every mod locked every thread they didn't agree with, General wouldn't have any viable topics.

As for your second clause, when did Moderators lose the ability to express viewpoints? It always surprizes me when people suggest that Mods aren't allowed to have or express opinions.

Interestingly, the suggestion is that viewpoints should not be posted while posting... *gasp*... a viewpoint.

While I personally wouldn't mourn the loss, I'm glad rising above has become the action of the day.

Nice. Its witty comments like that one which induces people to belive that the mods are responding emotionallly to an issue instead of rationally. If you didn't like the topic ban him, no need to to post your viewpoint. My two cents at least.
First, Hack's response captures my opinions perfectly. Thanks, Hack.

Second, why should I take the time to formulate some point-by-point rebuttal, when my entire statement was perfectly encapsulated in a single line? This is obviously a bid for ego-boost and attention, and my intent is to not indulge him. Now you've dragged me kicking and screaming into this morass, and I'm once again going to walk away, shaking the mud from my feet. I've had my say to B0zzy in the past, and he didn't learn from it. I did, and I'm not going to waste my time lecturing him. EOF.