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racist flamebaiting/trolling

Santa Barbara
11-12-2005, 18:49
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=458676
Kaelestios
11-12-2005, 19:07
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=458676

how does one contact a moderator?
Misunderestimates
11-12-2005, 19:21
It seems like a fair debate, and hasn't really gotten too out of hand. Bigoted racism? perhaps minutely. Trolling/flamebaiting? ehh...hardly. Even a moderator had input, so it can't be THAT out of hand.
Katganistan
11-12-2005, 20:29
Meh. Debate silliness like this. Better to civilly show how foolish the argument than shut it down.
I V Stalin
11-12-2005, 21:00
Meh. Debate silliness like this. Better to civilly show how foolish the argument than shut it down.
While I can understand why you're leaving it open - I thought it a rather silly thread when it started - if the title were 'Let's Dilute the Black Race', blaming black people for all the world's ills, it would have been shut down immediately. Surely it's an identical viewpoint, just reversed? So shouldn't the response be the same?
CthulhuFhtagn
11-12-2005, 21:37
While I can understand why you're leaving it open - I thought it a rather silly thread when it started - if the title were 'Let's Dilute the Black Race', blaming black people for all the world's ills, it would have been shut down immediately. Surely it's an identical viewpoint, just reversed? So shouldn't the response be the same?
It's a satire of an earlier (now deleted) thread by a puppet of VoteEarly.
I V Stalin
11-12-2005, 21:42
It's a satire of an earlier (now deleted) thread by a puppet of VoteEarly.
Oh, ok. I missed that one. Saw the response in moderation, but not the actual thread.
Kaelestios
11-12-2005, 23:03
Meh. Debate silliness like this. Better to civilly show how foolish the argument than shut it down.


It does not matter if this is a satire. It is Racism and if it where against any other race you would be shutting it down. It is deplorable that you are allowing this to stay. I ask again for this thread to be removed. and fyi if this WAS against any other race i would be writing you the same thing. Hatred should never be allowed.
Frisbeeteria
11-12-2005, 23:18
Max Barry's opinion is that $unpopular_issues "should be debated, not censored". NS mods aren't here to promote political correctness, as that sorta defeats the purpose of a political simulation game.

I have yet to see any racism thread where the proponent was able to generate any better answer than "BECAUSE!!", despite the fact that they may use 20 paragraphs to say it. If you disagree, PROVE them wrong.
Kaelestios
11-12-2005, 23:33
Max Barry's opinion is that $unpopular_issues "should be debated, not censored". NS mods aren't here to promote political correctness, as that sorta defeats the purpose of a political simulation game.

I have yet to see any racism thread where the proponent was able to generate any better answer than "BECAUSE!!", despite the fact that they may use 20 paragraphs to say it. If you disagree, PROVE them wrong.


you may be right however my grandparents grew up in Austria and so did I, we learned along time ago that allowing talk like this can create catastrophic problems. I have seen moderators close threads for less than this. i am not meaning to be rude or out of place but it seems when christians/western cultures are attacked you look the other way. You can have your cake and eat it to. If you are going to close one thread for attacking a race or religion you have to be fair for all. I am sure max barry is not a hypocryte. But no offense the moderation team seems to be. If this gets me kicked off thats fine im just stating what i see. Learn from the past the only way evil can take place is when good people stand around and do nothing to stop it. that is all i will say.
Candle Ice
12-12-2005, 00:08
It does not matter if this is a satire. It is Racism and if it where against any other race you would be shutting it down. It is deplorable that you are allowing this to stay. I ask again for this thread to be removed. and fyi if this WAS against any other race i would be writing you the same thing. Hatred should never be allowed.
Yeah, but didn't a white guy start the thread in the first place? Hardly seems like hatred to make your own race the topic.
Frisbeeteria
12-12-2005, 00:28
If you want to discuss racism on messageboards, do so in General. This issue is closed.