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flaming, possible trolling

Santa Barbara
02-12-2005, 06:58
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457067&page=2

This thread is getting hot. And I rather suspect the intention was just to troll.
Mikitivity
02-12-2005, 07:26
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457067&page=2

This thread is getting hot. And I rather suspect the intention was just to troll.

I realize you are trying to call attention to this thread to a moderator, but if an action *is* taken, I'd like to specifically see what justified it ... curiousity in the minds of the current mod team. :)
NERVUN
02-12-2005, 07:29
I suspect FireAntz hasn't actually trolled or flamebaited, but he comes very close to the edge and usually does so in a way to rile up everyone else. And yeah, it's getting warm in there.
The Most Glorious Hack
02-12-2005, 07:37
If you can't spot the flaming and trolling, well... just read pretty much any post by Colodia or FireAntz.

And people, seriously, learn to use goddamn quote tags properly. It's not that hard, and avoids having you look like a total idiot.
Colodia
02-12-2005, 07:43
If you can't spot the flaming and trolling, well... just read pretty much any post by Colodia or FireAntz.

And people, seriously, learn to use goddamn quote tags properly. It's not that hard, and avoids having you look like a total idiot.
Yeah I'd like to see how I flamed. Considering I was trying not to after I was told to go to hell.
NERVUN
02-12-2005, 07:43
If you can't spot the flaming and trolling, well... just read pretty much any post by Colodia or FireAntz.
Thanks Hack for the lock.

And people, seriously, learn to use goddamn quote tags properly. It's not that hard, and avoids having you look like a total idiot.
*Has learned to use quote tags. Has yet to master spelling ;)*
Mikitivity
02-12-2005, 08:09
If you can't spot the flaming and trolling, well... just read pretty much any post by Colodia or FireAntz.

And people, seriously, learn to use goddamn quote tags properly. It's not that hard, and avoids having you look like a total idiot.

First, I'm not sure if the reference to the quote tags is about my post ... I'm not really doing anything there that isn't Jolt automated. *shrug*

Second, the very subject in question seemed like it could go into trolling territory, but not being familiar with anybody in that thread I wasn't judging things based on any prejudgements I might carry about the posters in question and really wasn't sure.
Thelona
02-12-2005, 08:36
First, I'm not sure if the reference to the quote tags is about my post ... I'm not really doing anything there that isn't Jolt automated. *shrug*

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the numerous failed attempts to quote someone in the original thread. So many that it looks like something was wrong with Jolt, but that's just a guess.
Santa Barbara
02-12-2005, 10:53
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the numerous failed attempts to quote someone in the original thread. So many that it looks like something was wrong with Jolt, but that's just a guess.

Yeah there was, since I just did what I normally do - hit "reply with quote" and my post came out like that.
The Most Glorious Hack
02-12-2005, 11:39
Yeah, no flaming or trolling at all Colodia. Would you prefer I smack you for impersonating a Mod by telling people they can't post?

You know what you get?

You get a fucking F-Well fucking done genius. You can't respond to me without flaming. Say bye-bye to any and all respect you had from anyone that actually mattered.Shh, mmkay? You no get to talkie anymore wittle one.Yeah I don't think you should talk anymore unless you have something to say that isn't defined as flamebaiting or flaming. Until you can, you can't talk anymore and be respected.I find it quite hilarious that you refuse to acknowledge that you shouldn't talk anymore either.

Time-out for you mister. Or miss. Or whatever you are.:rolleyes:

You obviously know nothing and do not deserve to debate anything related to this topic. Get out there, get a life, and learn a little culture before you start thinking that your above and beyond a billion people.Jesus Christ...I swear to God your a hopeless case and I pray to God that you don't have any influence on a younger generation.
Colodia
02-12-2005, 15:29
Even THAT'S flaming now? Telling someone to get out there and learn? Telling someone that they've lost respect?

Didn't even bother to look at what I was replying to to talk like that, eh?

Fine, whatever, say whatever you like about me.
Mikitivity
02-12-2005, 16:25
Yeah, no flaming or trolling at all Colodia. Would you prefer I smack you for impersonating a Mod by telling people they can't post?

Thanks for showing that. I originally just looked at page 2 (which was what was linked to) and nothing there struck me as name calling (baiting sure) ... out of curiousity, if a player requests you look at a thread but posts a specific page, do you normally continue reading the thread even if you don't see something wrong in the exact page (one of many) that is linked?
Jocabia
02-12-2005, 17:05
Even THAT'S flaming now? Telling someone to get out there and learn? Telling someone that they've lost respect?

Didn't even bother to look at what I was replying to to talk like that, eh?

Fine, whatever, say whatever you like about me.

Just a note, but what you were replying to does not excuse you. Your posts even if mild where baiting the poster into upping the ante (which the poster may have done to you first). When you participate you excite the entire thread and eventually the debate is lost in name-calling and general rudeness. If the poster was deserving as you implied, report them. If not, then show the strength of your argument does not require you to attack the poster personally.
The Most Glorious Hack
02-12-2005, 21:47
if a player requests you look at a thread but posts a specific page, do you normally continue reading the thread even if you don't see something wrong in the exact page (one of many) that is linked?Depends on the url, actually. If the linked "page" also includes data that tells Jolt how many posts per page to show, then I'll sometimes stick with that page. Usually that information isn't there, which makes for a bit of guessing, specifically wondering how many posts per page the reporter is using (which is why we prefer specific posts). Also depends on mood, how many pages remain, etc. etc. etc.

Even THAT'S flaming now? Telling someone to get out there and learn? Telling someone that they've lost respect?If you can't tell the difference between telling someone that they need to experience the world and "You obviously know nothing and do not deserve to debate anything related to this topic. Get out there, get a life..." then perhaps you need to find another forum to frequent.

Didn't even bother to look at what I was replying to to talk like that, eh?What is this? Kindergarten?

Fine, whatever, say whatever you like about me.Thanks for your permission. How about less sulking, and more appropriate posting? You weren't deleted, you were banned, you weren't warned, hell, you didn't even get an unofficial warning. I locked the bloody thread. Check your attitude at the door.
Steel Butterfly
02-12-2005, 21:57
Check your attitude at the door.

You, sir, should take your own advice. Throughout this thread you've seemed to be in a generally bad mood, implying that mod action is something mods use for revenge as well as mildly flaming those who you are talking to.

You're a mod, and you're supposed to be held to a higher standard. If you cannot control yourself in the moderation forum on official business, how exactly do you expect the rest of us to in other places in the site.
The Most Glorious Hack
02-12-2005, 22:04
Throughout this thread you've seemed to be in a generally bad mood, implying that mod action is something mods use for revenge as well as mildly flaming those who you are talking to. Having little patience for yet another thread of trolling and flaming should not be confused with being in a bad mood or seeking "revenge" (what, pray tell, am I avenging, anyway?). Nor should having little patience for players who have caused problems in the past indicative of anything other than... having little patience for the antics of rule breakers.

I'm not a nanny here. If someone wants to sulk because they were called for breaking the rules, they can do so elsewhere.

You're a mod, and you're supposed to be held to a higher standard. If you cannot control yourself in the moderation forum on official business, how exactly do you expect the rest of us to in other places in the site.Excuse me? No, I'm supposed to enforce site rules. If a player who has been here for two years and made 12,000 posts still is unable to grasp our rather simple rules, I fail to see how it's my job to hold their hand.