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After a review of the rules, Bayern Celtic should be revived. Which mod(s) did this action, as it was seemingly arbitrary according to the rules laid down. All BC did was move spam off the regional board, and this was the reason given for deletion. Below that we see what BC did to get the deletion was not illegal.

Please revive Bayern Celtic in Celtic now.

Apparently the founder DOES have the right to clear his region board of spam by spamming the boards with soccer/football scores like Bayern Celtic did. Read below:

"NationStates Moderators
Received: 2 days ago Bayern Celtic was deleted for spamming the Celtic RMB. Being founder does not give you the right to do so. It was not your first warning, either, thus the deletion.
As for your two requests within 30 minutes of each other - we don't monitor the tasklist in realtime. We'll get to your requests when we get to them.

"29-10-2005, 10:31 PM #14
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Originally Posted by The Noble Men
From this, combined with the Mod decisions of this thread, would I be wrong in saying a Founder can grief all (s)he wants, but cannot be griefed even with his/her permission?

The Founder made the region; it's the Founder's region to do with what she pleases. The Founder cannot be griefed (even with his/her permission) because we don't have the time to ascertain permission issues in every single griefing case, oftentimes the "evidence" of "permission" (such as telegrams) ends up getting deleted by users, and I can say without hesitation that the "we had permission" excuse has been used before when it was just a bold-faced lie.

So, yes, that's pretty much what we've been saying from the start. Good job.


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29-10-2005, 10:33 PM #15
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Yup, getting there Noble, founder nation can grief his own region, but can't give others permission to do so.

Clearly this is an abuse of power by a moderator. The rules are on the side of BC, who committed no offense, yet there has been no effort to restore his nation.

I request a formal inquiry by several moderators/admins to look over the matter and either solidify or reverse the decisions made by a single moderator.

Interesting how these things are always claimed to be due to abuse rather than, perhaps, a simple mistake...

Thanks for looking into it Scolopendra, the nation Bayern Celtic was deleted by mistake, but whatever mod did this would not own up to the mistake. I think that is why Alaois suspects foul play for whatever reason. Nationstates breeds paranoia :)

We hope to see Bayern Celtic revived asap, thanks.

Interesting how these things are always claimed to be due to abuse rather than, perhaps, a simple mistake...


I tend to think it is abuse when our inquiries prior to this were responded to in an extremely rude fashion by a moderator.

Alaois, moderators are people too. Hopefully we will find some that have a keen sense of justice.

Let's hope they are out there and revive Bayern Celtic, as this is a miscarriage of justice.

Yes, I realize that Pro, it's just that it bothers me when people won't admit to their mistakes or rectify them due to stubborn pride.

It bothers me that you're making this a thread for debate, and for mod bashing. Closing it until the moderator who handled this case reviews it.