NationStates Jolt Archive


French Riots

Psychotic Mongooses
07-11-2005, 18:31
There's about 4 different threads now about the same issue. Is it time they were merged somewhat? :confused:
Gruenberg
07-11-2005, 18:55
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452865
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452850
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452397

The latter appears to have died, the former is on a slightly different subject. Still, if you want a merge, it might be helpful to give links. Apologies if I've missed any.
Psychotic Mongooses
07-11-2005, 18:58
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452865
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452850
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452397

The latter appears to have died, the former is on a slightly different subject. Still, if you want a merge, it might be helpful to give links. Apologies if I've missed any.

Oh... em. Yeah.. probably should have done that, thanks. :D

Well, hopefully, they'll have died out by the time the mods get to this, so there mightn't be a need for it. :)
Euroslavia
07-11-2005, 19:04
I've merged two of them; however, I'm leaving the "Riots Spread to Germany and Belgium" thread separate because it is a slightly different discussion.
Psychotic Mongooses
07-11-2005, 20:52
I've merged two of them; however, I'm leaving the "Riots Spread to Germany and Belgium" thread separate because it is a slightly different discussion.

Oh, thanks! Much neater now :D That was quick :)
The Lone Alliance
07-11-2005, 20:55
Did you merge this one? I mean it's two topics made by the same poster.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452897
Psychotic Mongooses
07-11-2005, 21:21
Did you merge this one? I mean it's two topics made by the same poster.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452897

(Not a mod)
I don't think that should really be merged. Distasteful and doesn't really add anything to the debate.
Dread Lady Nathicana
07-11-2005, 21:24
Agreed. It's interesting how this particular poster seems to get his nose out of joint whenever anyone breathes wrong in reference to America, but thinks it's ok to make fun of Bad Things happening in places he doesn't seem to care for.

Yeah, I can say that. I'm American too, and find that sort of behaviour disgusting. And folks like him wonder why we get disliked sometimes?
Psychotic Mongooses
07-11-2005, 21:29
Actaully, I think the above thread might explode any moment.... :eek:
Dread Lady Nathicana
07-11-2005, 21:38
I think you're right. If it isn't 'actionable', mods - perhaps at least a closure of it before it escalates further? I mean we have people equating his tasteless sense of humor to the World Trade Center getting blown up. This just won't end well.
Sick Nightmares
07-11-2005, 21:44
He was laughing at a play on words. He never said it was funny that they were rioting, or that people were getting hurt, or had died. Grow some skin, and learn to make distinctions, please.
Gruenberg
07-11-2005, 21:44
Maybe we should all just step out, as PM did, and as I shall do now. Eutrusca evidently regards us as trolls, and so I have no desire to further provoke him. If we let him be, the thread will die anyway.
Dread Lady Nathicana
07-11-2005, 21:55
If not for his pattern of behaviour, would buy that excuse. *chuckles* Already stepped out with a pat on the head and a smile. Find his continued attempts a 'getting in a dig' amusing, but weak anyways.

Some of us have made our distinctions and found his 'sense of humor' lacking. It's not like you have to agree, and it doesn't mean anyone needs to 'grow skin' over it. You can use all sorts of rationalizations if you want. It doesn't change how he initially introduced it, and later tried to backpedal a bit.

No, probably not actionable, given some of the other things that get tossed around in there, but hey.
Euroslavia
07-11-2005, 21:56
The thread is of poor taste anyways. Thread locked.
Eutrusca
07-11-2005, 21:56
He was laughing at a play on words. He never said it was funny that they were rioting, or that people were getting hurt, or had died. Grow some skin, and learn to make distinctions, please.
Thank you. At least someone on here can understand the difference.
Sick Nightmares
07-11-2005, 21:56
Maybe we should all just step out, as PM did, and as I shall do now. Eutrusca evidently regards us as trolls, and so I have no desire to further provoke him. If we let him be, the thread will die anyway.
Sounds like a viable solution to me. I never did quite "get" why people will constantly post in a thread they find offensive, trying to shut people up, instead of just hopping over to another thread, and going about your day. *shrugs*

~EDIT~ I'll go with the ruling, (basically because I have no choice) however I want to be on the record that locking it was a very poor decision, in my opinion..
Eutrusca
07-11-2005, 21:58
The thread is of poor taste anyways. Thread locked.
Over-reaction, but whatever. I suppose quoting a major news network is now verboten on General as well as all the other things we've had to give up.
Gruenberg
07-11-2005, 22:00
Over-reaction, but whatever. I suppose quoting a major news network is now verboten on General as well as all the other things we've had to give up.

That's not an absolute though, is it? If a major news network ran on article showing Goatse, or linking to ebaumsworld, it would not be permitted in General. It's the content, not the source, that, however justifiably, Euroslavia acted on.
Dread Lady Nathicana
07-11-2005, 22:01
Something to remember? Just because someone else did it, or said it, doesn't make it 'right'. Or funny. Ciao, all! *heads to work, and out of ze thread*
Euroslavia
07-11-2005, 22:05
Over-reaction, but whatever. I suppose quoting a major news network is now verboten on General as well as all the other things we've had to give up.

Seeing as you didn't add a link to where you got it from, you didn't even put an attempt for a conversation, and you've managed to offend a plethora of people, it deserved to be locked.
Sick Nightmares
07-11-2005, 22:11
Seeing as you didn't add a link to where you got it from, you didn't even put an attempt for a conversation, and you've managed to offend a plethora of people, it deserved to be locked.
So remember, boys and girls. No threads about anything unless you can find it on the net, and it makes EVERYONE happy!
Euroslavia
07-11-2005, 22:16
So remember, boys and girls. No threads about anything unless you can find it on the net, and it makes EVERYONE happy!

That's bullshit Sick Nightmares, and you know it. When quoting news sources, adding a link to the news source is generally what you're expected to do, so that people can see that you haven't manipulated the article. It's common courtesy. Not doing so can qualify as trolling.
Sick Nightmares
07-11-2005, 22:28
That's bullshit Sick Nightmares, and you know it. When quoting news sources, adding a link to the news source is generally what you're expected to do, so that people can see that you haven't manipulated the article. It's common courtesy. Not doing so can qualify as trolling.
I agree with the fact that it is generally good conduct to provide a link. BUT, I think it only harms us if we can only post things that are on the net. What do we do if we have an idea for a really good post, but it isn't something thats on the net?
Euroslavia
07-11-2005, 22:32
I agree with the fact that it is generally good conduct to provide a link. BUT, I think it only harms us if we can only post things that are on the net. What do we do if we have an idea for a really good post, but it isn't something thats on the net?

There's nothing wrong with posting something that isn't on the internet. You seem to have misunderstood me. Another major factor in this is the fact that Eutrusca didn't make an effort in making it a discussion. He was only out to make a statement, which ended up offending a lot of people, hence it was closed. I do believe we're done here.