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Fass
28-09-2005, 14:07
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446710

Well, I take offense. Perhaps it could be changed to something less insulting to gay people?
Dumpsterdam
28-09-2005, 14:11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446710

Well, I take offense. Perhaps it could be changed to something less insulting to gay people?

I'm sorry, but I fail to see whats so insulting to them, I mean if people are gay, they ARE gay right? So whats the deal?

I'm probably wrong, and tired, and having fever doesn't help either but please explain.

Note: Yes I'm a tolerant person, but I just fail to see what the fuss is.
Sick Nightmares
28-09-2005, 14:15
Gay is just another word people use nowadays. I didn't see any posts disparaging homosexuals. Might as well get used to the fact that not everyone is as sensitive as you, Fass.
Fass
28-09-2005, 14:16
I'm sorry, but I fail to see whats so insulting to them, I mean if people are gay, they ARE gay right? So whats the deal?

I'm probably wrong, and tired, and having fever doesn't help either but please explain.

Note: Yes I'm a tolerant person, but I just fail to see what the fuss is.

It's offensive because it equates gay with bad. He's not telling us how much his life rocks, but how much it sucks. And I as a gay person take offence at this negative depiction and homophobic slur.
Dumpsterdam
28-09-2005, 14:18
It's offensive because it equates gay with bad. He's not telling us how much his life rocks, but how much it sucks. And I as a gay person take offence at this negative depiction and homophobic slur.

Alright, fair enough...but eh...

*reloads*

How about having a bit of thick skin? If you realy want to report it, fine with me, but people seem to report even the slightest thing they find, its your right but to report its my right to question it(within reason).
Fass
28-09-2005, 14:18
Gay is just another word people use nowadays. I didn't see any posts disparaging homosexuals. Might as well get used to the fact that not everyone is as sensitive as you, Fass.

I don't care how much people use it - it's still offensive and degrading. And, no I will not just sit back and accept it. You'll just have to face the fact that not everyone will stand for this.
Fass
28-09-2005, 14:20
How about having a bit of thick skin? If you realy want to report it, fine with me, but people seem to report even the slightest thing they find, its your right but to report its my right to question it(within reason).

Well, your opinion does not matter to me one bit. Let the mods decide this - you are not the one I need to motivate this report to, and hopefully the mods are a bit more sensible and I won't even have to do it do them, because of the obviousness of the slur.
Dumpsterdam
28-09-2005, 14:21
Well, your opinion does not matter to me one bit. Let the mods decide this - you are not the one I need to motivate this report to, and hopefully the mods are a bit more sensible and I won't even have to do it do them, because of the obviousness of the slur.

Intolerant, noted, goodbye.

*exit thread stage left*
Fass
28-09-2005, 14:45
[Insert Title That Couldn't Possibly Offend Any Minority; Regardless of Intent]

Oh, so now it's been replaced with a title that's basically trolling. Mature. :rolleyes:
Legless Pirates
28-09-2005, 14:47
Happy now Fass? :p
Sick Nightmares
28-09-2005, 14:49
I don't care how much people use it - it's still offensive and degrading. And, no I will not just sit back and accept it. You'll just have to face the fact that not everyone will stand for this.
All I'm saying is that the word is used by countless millions to describe something bad. Doesn't make it right or wrong, but busting someones chops on an online forum won't change it. It will just make you look intolerant of someone else's choice of words.

Just because your a homosexual, that doesn't mean you "own" the word. I'm not trying to be rude, and I have nothing against homosexuallity.
Fass
28-09-2005, 14:54
All I'm saying is that the word is used by countless millions to describe something bad. Doesn't make it right or wrong, but busting someones chops on an online forum won't change it. It will just make you look intolerant of someone else's choice of words.

Just because your a homosexual, that doesn't mean you "own" the word. I'm not trying to be rude, and I have nothing against homosexuallity.

This is not a forum for debate. I will not be addressing this through debate with you as you are not a mod. Stop meddling, please, and let the mods decide.
Peisandros
28-09-2005, 14:56
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446710

Well, I take offense. Perhaps it could be changed to something less insulting to gay people?
Every single gay friend I have laughs at the use of the word gay. Grow up and accept it. The meanings of words change. Gay meant 'happy and joyful' then turned into homosexuality. Now its very well known that it is just another word for something bad. Oh well, I believe you taking offense is quite funny. Hope your pleased :)
Sarzonia
28-09-2005, 15:00
Every single gay friend I have laughs at the use of the word gay.That may be YOUR gay friends who do that. Fass and I both take offense to something that is such an ingrained part of who we are being equated with something negative in that fashion.

Grow up and accept it.If you were black and someone called you the n-word, would you just "grow up and accept it"? I don't think so.
Guffingford
28-09-2005, 15:01
Can someone please change the forum name Fass to Sass?

Thanks.
Peisandros
28-09-2005, 15:03
If you were black and someone called you the n-word, would you just "grow up and accept it"? I don't think so.
I'm not sure. Perhaps I would. I will never be placed in that situation and find it hard to imagine it.
Fass
28-09-2005, 15:03
Every single gay friend I have laughs at the use of the word gay. Grow up and accept it. The meanings of words change. Gay meant 'happy and joyful' then turned into homosexuality. Now its very well known that it is just another word for something bad. Oh well, I believe you taking offense is quite funny. Hope your pleased :)

And, again, I don't care how many people use it or what you wish to equate it as - ******, and chink and gook were widely used and did not cease being offensive just because the people who used them tried to claim that they weren't. Gay people fought long and hard to reclaim the word and I will not stand for this homophobic attempt at sullying it. You find my reaction funny, I find your action sad. And, yes, I will be a thorn in the side of people who think this sort of puerile behaviour is acceptable.
Peisandros
28-09-2005, 15:05
Lol. So now I'm homophobic? Oh dear. Yes yes. You're right. I'm homophobic because I used the word gay in the way I'm most used to it being used. If the title was "My life is homosexual" I would understand your anger. But it wasn't, and so I do not.
Fass
28-09-2005, 15:09
Lol. So now I'm homophobic? Oh dear. Yes yes. You're right. I'm homophobic because I used the word gay in the way I'm most used to it being used.

I did not say you were homophobic - your use of this word was. And just because your surroundings are homophobic enough that this is what you're "used to" in no way means you are excused for it.

If the title was "My life is homosexual" I would understand your anger. But it wasn't, and so I do not.

And that is the saddest part of all. That you remain oblivious as to the hurtful nature of this.
Peisandros
28-09-2005, 15:12
I did not say you were homophobic - your use of this word was. And just because your surroundings are homophobic enough that this is what you're "used to" in no way means you are excused for it.



And that is the saddest part of all. That you remain oblivious as to the hurtful nature of this.
My homophobic surroundings? Excuse me? You have no idea about my surroundings. My gay friends do not find it homophobic. They find it hilliarous. I don't mean just 'A' gay friend. I mean the 3 homosexual couples, the 4 lesbian girls and 2 gay males. I've never really met any opposition to the way I used the word. Ignorance I guess.
EDIT: I'm also not sure that I need to be "excused" by you. You are not the master or owner of the word 'gay'.
Fass
28-09-2005, 15:16
My homophobic surroundings? Excuse me? You have no idea about my surroundings. My gay friends do not find it homophobic. They find it hilliarous. I don't mean just 'A' gay friend. I mean the 3 homosexual couples, the 4 lesbian girls and 2 gay males. I've never really met any opposition to the way I used the word. Ignorance I guess.

Your anecdotal "friends" are of no consequence here. I am offended, and don't care what other, less self-respecting and probably imaginary people think. I'm done with this - it's up to the mods now. As I said earlier, this is the moderation forum and as such is not a forum for debate.
Peisandros
28-09-2005, 15:18
Your anecdotal "friends" are of no consequence here. I am offended, and don't care what other, less self-respecting and probably imaginary people think. I'm done with this - it's up to the mods now. As I said earlier, this is the moderation forum and as such is not a forum for debate.
Imaginary people. How childish. You live in a bubble, the world changes.
Laerod
28-09-2005, 15:21
Fass, let my direct your attention here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9713426&postcount=44). I hope it solves the issue.
Euroslavia
28-09-2005, 15:44
This has been solved, therefore, iLock.