NationStates Jolt Archive


No Swastikas?

Monstresquipedalia
19-09-2005, 21:20
I recently read that no swastikas could be incorporated into any flags. Though what if it is a Jainist nation? The symbol of Jainism is a rightward facing swastika, often with three dots, a horisontal crescent, and another dot above it. Surely there should be some exceptions.
Euroslavia
19-09-2005, 21:42
I recently read that no swastikas could be incorporated into any flags. Though what if it is a Jainist nation? The symbol of Jainism is a rightward facing swastika, often with three dots, a horisontal crescent, and another dot above it. Surely there should be some exceptions.

If you could provide a picture of it, as an example, that would help us out.
Shantisthan
19-09-2005, 22:02
It is also the symbol used in Hinduism and Buddhism.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-09-2005, 06:22
For further clarification, please see Acceptable Flag Policy (or: Swastikas, Boobies, and Sickles, oh my!) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438053) here in Moderation.

You may not like it, you may not agree with it, you may have a dozen reasons why your p.o.v. is right and the policy is wrong, but that's how it is. If I'm understanding you correctly, my guess would be 'no, it would not be acceptable because of the negative connotations and nazi interpretations of it - direction of the 'legs' or what not aside'. Granted, not a mod (obviously), so my word is anything but law. Just observing what's been discussed on the subject in the past, and covered in that reference thread.

Which reminds me. Mods - sticky on the [violet] flag bit, or no?

--Nathi's Player
Yeldan UN Mission
20-09-2005, 06:53
If you could provide a picture of it, as an example, that would help us out.
Here it is. (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/in-jain.html) I was going to post the image, then decided it might be better to link to it instead.
Euroslavia
20-09-2005, 07:34
A swastika: not acceptable (Yes, it was used by Buddhists in the third Century, etc, etc, but that's not what it represents now. To the vast majority of people, the swastika represents the Holocaust. A nation with a swastika appears to be endorsing that event; that's malicious and has the primary effect of offending.)

I think that pretty much answers your question.
Austar Union
20-09-2005, 09:12
Which reminds me. Mods - sticky on the [violet] flag bit, or no?

Has been incorporated into the One Stop Rules Shop, Nathi
E-Xtremia
20-09-2005, 16:45
Not to question Mod Authority, but I thought the second clause would permit it now with the new clarification (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9445233&postcount=8):

A swastika: not acceptable (Yes, it was used by Buddhists in the third Century, etc, etc, but that's not what it represents now. To the vast majority of people, the swastika represents the Holocaust. A nation with a swastika appears to be endorsing that event; that's malicious and has the primary effect of offending.)
A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis": fine
A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis" that has the slogan: "We kill Jews with kindness": not fineLike I said, wouldn't this flag then not qualify for being malicious with the new definition?
Euroslavia
20-09-2005, 17:04
Like I said, wouldn't this flag then not qualify for being malicious with the new definition?

'] A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis": fine

I personally don't see any 'little flowers and happy faces' on the flag, so I'm not understanding your point here. Both variations of those flag in the link provided would not be allowed as flags here.
E-Xtremia
20-09-2005, 22:55
What I was asking is, since he isn't trying to look like a nazi at all, peaceful motto, etc,etc,etc, wouldn't that count as 'flowers' or would he really have to add flowers and such to the flag?