NationStates Jolt Archive


He's back!

Jocabia
13-09-2005, 18:22
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9632726&postcount=819

He seems to be flaunting the fact that he can get around the mod bans.
Frisbeeteria
13-09-2005, 18:24
It's always such as surprise that Delete-on-Sight players turn out to be such asses. Who'd have thought?
JuNii
13-09-2005, 18:25
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9632726&postcount=819

He seems to be flaunting the fact that he can get around the mod bans.
*Sits in fortified Bunker with Mega tub of Hurricane Popcorn to watch the action.*

Methinks I see a Deat on the horizon...
Jocabia
13-09-2005, 18:28
It's always such as surprise that Delete-on-Sight players turn out to be such asses. Who'd have thought?

Now, Fris, tsk...tsk... accurately describing someone as an ass is still flaming. I give you the UNMNARWOD a.k.a. Unaffecting Non-Mod Not A Real Warning Of Doom.
JuNii
13-09-2005, 18:28
It's always such as surprise that Delete-on-Sight players turn out to be such asses. Who'd have thought?
perhaps a NS FORUMS MOST WANTED list? a listing of all DoS players with their Famous last posts.
JuNii
13-09-2005, 18:33
Now, Fris, tsk...tsk... accurately describing someone as an ass is still flaming. I give you the UNMNARWOD a.k.a. Unaffecting Non-Mod Not A Real Warning Of Doom.
Now, now Jocabia, considering what they face, I'm willing to let them vent.
Oekaiii
13-09-2005, 18:34
Originally Posted by Frisbeeteria
It's always such as surprise that Delete-on-Sight players turn out to be such asses. Who'd have thought?

perhaps a NS FORUMS MOST WANTED list? a listing of all DoS players with their Famous last posts.

I suppose I COULD be a bit less obvious about who I am, and "diguise" myself
better,.. but what would be the fun in that?

Do you people actually READ my posts, or are you just taking orders from the
cry-baby children that run around your play-pen..?

I'll refrain from posting anywhere else, but here (mod section), until you
answer me (within a reasonable amount of time, obviously).

I consider it quite dishonorable to kill without recourse, or to go back on my
word, so I'll await a nifty little discussion from any and all of you soon.

Thanks..! :)


-The REAL Iakeo
Frisbeeteria
13-09-2005, 18:41
I consider it quite dishonorable to kill without recourse, or to go back on my word, so I'll await a nifty little discussion from any and all of you soon.
At this point, we don't really care what you think. You've been declared Delete on Sight since long before I became a mod, and it's obvious to all readers that you don't think Max and [violet]'s policies apply to you.

So, you're a clever lad, and can continue to sneak around the various barriers we toss in your path. So what? All your nations will be deleted as we spot them. You're DoS. Take the friggin' hint, and go play somewhere else.
Oekaiiii
13-09-2005, 18:56
Originally Posted by Oekaiii
I consider it quite dishonorable to kill without recourse, or to go back on my word, so I'll await a nifty little discussion from any and all of you soon.

At this point, we don't really care what you think. You've been declared Delete on Sight since long before I became a mod, and it's obvious to all readers that you don't think Max and [violet]'s policies apply to you.

So, you're a clever lad, and can continue to sneak around the various barriers we toss in your path. So what? All your nations will be deleted as we spot them. You're DoS. Take the friggin' hint, and go play somewhere else.

You know,.. I may have to actually READ those policies..!!

Yes,... that's right,.. and I feel silly for never having read them,.. which I now
shall,.. but it's not appreciably going to alter my way of conversing.

Though,.. I may in fact tone down whatever it is that people take as
so "offensive". Or at least find ways of making said offensiveness palatable.

My real question to you mod folks is this: Why on earth do you ban when it
would be more conducive to interesting conversation to simply allow people
who don't want to hear those they feel are "bad" in some way to be /ignored?

You put WAY too much pressure on yourselves by becomng the enforcement
branch for a bunch of tempermental children!

Don't you agree..?

(( I promise to talk only here, in this thread, until we understand each other. ))

-The REAL Iakeo
Crazy girl
13-09-2005, 19:00
not one of these again... :rolleyes:

you're banned, that kinda means...get lost, you're not welcome here, find another game to play, or go take a smell of real life
Jocabia
13-09-2005, 19:01
I suppose I COULD be a bit less obvious about who I am, and "diguise" myself
better,.. but what would be the fun in that?

Do you people actually READ my posts, or are you just taking orders from the
cry-baby children that run around your play-pen..?

I'll refrain from posting anywhere else, but here (mod section), until you
answer me (within a reasonable amount of time, obviously).

I consider it quite dishonorable to kill without recourse, or to go back on my
word, so I'll await a nifty little discussion from any and all of you soon.

Thanks..! :)


-The REAL Iakeo

I'm not sure what it is that you think we're supposed to be impressed with. I've seen your posts and they are unnecessarily rude and insulting, both discouraging reasonable discourse. Interestingly, you seem to think people should be amazed that you have this ability. All the children in my family are taught to be polite and to avoid being insulting to other people particularly in other people's homes. They were born knowing how to be rude and insulting. Should we be impressed that you know how to breath next?

Or is that you think your defiance makes you some kind of revolutionary fighting against oppression? Maybe if I give you a ride in my car sometime you'll rebel against my oppressive rule of requiring a seatbelt to ride in my car. Most posters are happy to see the mods enforcing rules that encourage intelligent debate and discourage pages and pages of rude, ignorant, insulting rhetoric that anyone over two is capable of (not actually referencing anyone in particular just suggesting it would degrade into this).

Or maybe we should be impressed that you can log on to another IP? Bah.

It would be particularly impressive if you chose today and now to realize that being respectful is by far more difficult than any of the above and you chose today and now to begin doing so by realizing that the owners and administrators of this site no longer wish to have you in their house and choosing to leave.
JuNii
13-09-2005, 19:01
well Oekaiiii, you can have discussions and debates without getting personal, Insulting and condensending. such maneuvers only leads to name calling and really gets off the topic. The Mods try to keep things civil but outright defying them is just plain wrong and disrespectful.

Fris (and Other Mods) is DoS Permament? I mean, if, Say, Oekaiiii, promises to be good from now on, does the DoS get lifted?
Oekaiiii
13-09-2005, 19:13
not one of these again... :rolleyes:

you're banned, that kinda means...get lost, you're not welcome here, find another game to play, or go take a smell of real life

I only post in the "general" forum.

That forum has nothing to do with a "game".

I'll refrain commenting on how anything on "nationstates.net" could be
considered a "game", by the way.

You may continue to do as you like, and I may continue to do as I like. Until
you find a way to "perma-ban" me, I'll be back from time to time.

I actually do like your clientelle. They tend to have interesting thoughts to
consider. It's just a shame that you, as mods, choose to stifle interesting
conversation with your ludicrous "banning".

The question is: Why do you waste your time on such silly nonsense as
refereeing verbal jabs and parries? That is NORMAL in adult conversation.

I suspect that, from the "rules" for forum behavior, that the mentality of the
mods here is the same as many of the most ridiculous posters, which is that
we should all "agree", if only to disagree (which I also agree with), but do it
in the typical PC fashion of the university intelligencia.

..but then,.. you know that if you've heard me in the past. So I'm not really
giving any new information, am I.

Anyway,.. I had rather hoped that, at LEAST, the "general" forum would have
been released by the clutches of the PC-Fascista,.. but apparently not.

Too bad. May you continue to have fun in ways that amuse you, and not in
ways the annoy you.

I'm here to amuse,.. not annoy. But you can make of me what you will,..
children.

-The REAL Iakeo
Lady Winter
13-09-2005, 19:17
Feeding the troll is not a good way to deal with the problem.
JuNii
13-09-2005, 19:21
Feeding the troll is not a good way to deal with the problem.
True...
want some
*offers some Hurricane Popcorn*
Crazy girl
13-09-2005, 19:23
I only post in the "general" forum.

That forum has nothing to do with a "game".

It's still part of the game called NationStates.

I'll refrain commenting on how anything on "nationstates.net" could be
considered a "game", by the way.

Yeah, cause that would prove you're wrong :p

You may continue to do as you like, and I may continue to do as I like. Until
you find a way to "perma-ban" me, I'll be back from time to time.


you mean untill they're bored with you and contact your ISP? You do realise you're trespassing right now...

I actually do like your clientelle.
The feeling's not mutual
They tend to have interesting thoughts to
consider. It's just a shame that you, as mods, choose to stifle interesting
conversation with your ludicrous "banning".

It's a shame you stifle interesting conversation with rudeness

The question is: Why do you waste your time on such silly nonsense as
refereeing verbal jabs and parries? That is NORMAL in adult conversation.

Maybe for little kids pretending to be adults :rolleyes:

I suspect that, from the "rules" for forum behavior, that the mentality of the
mods here is the same as many of the most ridiculous posters, which is that
we should all "agree", if only to disagree (which I also agree with), but do it
in the typical PC fashion of the university intelligencia.

If you don't like it, plenty of other forums to hang out on....hell, you can even make your own.

..but then,.. you know that if you've heard me in the past. So I'm not really
giving any new information, am I.

Anyway,.. I had rather hoped that, at LEAST, the "general" forum would have
been released by the clutches of the PC-Fascista,.. but apparently not.

Too bad. May you continue to have fun in ways that amuse you, and not in
ways the annoy you.

I'm here to amuse,.. not annoy. But you can make of me what you will,..
children.

-The REAL Iakeo

You are annoying...embryo.
Dread Lady Nathicana
13-09-2005, 19:28
I don't know ...

Maybe if he actually were amusing. Or half as witty as he thinks himself to be. Or nearly as intelligent as he'd like us to believe by the simple use of somewhat elevated vocabulary.

Perhaps this is his way of pretending to have a life, sitting around and mocking/taunting/annoying a bunch of annonymous people on a free web game. Even the most simple of minds should be able to see that bans come into play when a person becomes so universally an irritant that the majority of users shouldn't HAVE to all resort to the ignore function on the count of one stupid sod. And that resources shouldn't have to be wasted on their filling up page after page of useless drivel that no one would be reading but themselves if everyone DID just ignore.

One would think, if he were as 'mature' as he claims, he'd have better things to do.

--Nathi's Player
(Who's here not having a life today commenting on asshats because her car broke down. Yay.)
JuNii
13-09-2005, 19:31
I don't know ...

Maybe if he actually were amusing. Or half as witty as he thinks himself to be. Or nearly as intelligent as he'd like us to believe by the simple use of somewhat elevated vocabulary.

Perhaps this is his way of pretending to have a life, sitting around and mocking/taunting/annoying a bunch of annonymous people on a free web game. Even the most simple of minds should be able to see that bans come into play when a person becomes so universally an irritant that the majority of users shouldn't HAVE to all resort to the ignore function on the count of one stupid sod. And that resources shouldn't have to be wasted on their filling up page after page of useless drivel that no one would be reading but themselves if everyone DID just ignore.

One would think, if he were as 'mature' as he claims, he'd have better things to do.

--Nathi's Player
(Who's here not having a life today commenting on asshats because her car broke down. Yay.)
Hola Great Lady... join us in the fortified bunker... Methinks the Mods are gonna be dropping the heavy end of the hammer on this one.
Crazy girl
13-09-2005, 19:33
I'd lend you my car Nathi...if I didn't live on the other side of the Atlantic...and would actually have a car.....

*shuts up and just passes around cookies*
Dread Lady Nathicana
13-09-2005, 19:36
No worries. We've got a second car, but given our schedules ... it's all good. Sitting here with the fam, watching the big ol' rainstorm outside, back and forth playing video games and doing other things along with the usual housework and all.

*passes around the milk to go with said cookies*
Skinny87
13-09-2005, 19:37
*Brings out a deck-chair and choc-ices*

I love the smell of mod-bombing in the morning...
Oekaiiiii
13-09-2005, 19:43
I'm not sure what it is that you think we're supposed to be impressed with. I've seen your posts and they are unnecessarily rude and insulting, both discouraging reasonable discourse.

And THAT'S where we disagree. My "rudeness" and "insultingness" simply
polarizes the interested parties. That is it's FUNCTION. It encourages a "rush
of adrenaline" that will either prompt the poster to greater critical perspective
of what they think they mean, or it will send them away, screaming, because
they can't defend their opinion without being overwhelmed by their own
emotions.


Interestingly, you seem to think people should be amazed that you have this ability. All the children in my family are taught to be polite and to avoid being insulting to other people particularly in other people's homes. They were born knowing how to be rude and insulting. Should we be impressed that you know how to breath next?

My people are taught the same thing. I'm always very polite in other venues,
but this venue is one where "rudeness" is actually useful, and very nearly
necessary to pry people off their preconceived notions BECAUSE we (as
posters) have NOTHING invested in what we say or what others say due to
the inconsequenciality of this venue (an internet forum)..!

You can be amazed at how I breathe, if you wish. Actually, you don't know
how easy or difficult that may in fact be for me, so there may be some merit
in your finding out.


Or is that you think your defiance makes you some kind of revolutionary fighting against oppression? Maybe if I give you a ride in my car sometime you'll rebel against my oppressive rule of requiring a seatbelt to ride in my car. Most posters are happy to see the mods enforcing rules that encourage intelligent debate and discourage pages and pages of rude, ignorant, insulting rhetoric that anyone over two is capable of (not actually referencing anyone in particular just suggesting it would degrade into this).

Hae ae ae... never let it be said that a MOD would stoop to using the tactics
that they so abhor..!! :)

But, no,.. I'm not much of a revolutionary. I'm more an "evolutionary". I can
see where tightly confined topical areas (the other fora [thanks for the latin
for this by the way!]) would need strict enforcement of rhetorical rules.

BUT,.. a general discussion area should be a free for all. The obvious tool to
combat those that "piss you off such that you're disinclined to converse with
them" is the /ignore switch.


Or maybe we should be impressed that you can log on to another IP? Bah.

Nah,.. that's too easy to do. :)


It would be particularly impressive if you chose today and now to realize that being respectful is by far more difficult than any of the above and you chose today and now to begin doing so by realizing that the owners and administrators of this site no longer wish to have you in their house and choosing to leave.

This is not your house.

This is MY, and OUR, Internet.

Your concept of boundaries, in this case, is flawed. Unless you can find a
way to make it either impossible or more difficult than acceptable for me to
enter here, this is not YOURS to be OWNED.

I personally hate terrorists. When I enter here under "false pretenses" (as
you see it) due to your having banned me, I am indeed acting as a terrorist.

But the term "false pretenses" is in question here. If I'm here to simply
converse, which is the stated purpose of the "general" forum, in a way that I
do not find OVERLY (or seriously) offensive (but which is still against
the "house rules"), while still seeing others being just as "offensive" as myself,
whom I deal with as I wish (I'll talk to them or not) as opposed to crying
to "mommy", then I do not consider myself a "terrorist". Merely a participant.

In this case, after having been "unjustly" (meaning!? :) ) banned, a
participant in the "meta-game" of the "general" forum.

Should I just go back to my "terrorist" ways, in the general forum, under a
"disguise",.. or are we not done here quite yet?

( I'm hoping we're NOT done here yet,.. myself! :) )


-The REAL Iakeo
The Noble Men
13-09-2005, 19:45
-sniped because it's crap-

(Taken from Scrubs)

Congratulations! Your Dimaggio-like streak for saying nothing even remotely interesting is still alive and well!

*big thumbs up*
Oekaiiiii
13-09-2005, 19:45
well Oekaiiii, you can have discussions and debates without getting personal, Insulting and condensending. such maneuvers only leads to name calling and really gets off the topic. The Mods try to keep things civil but outright defying them is just plain wrong and disrespectful.

Fris (and Other Mods) is DoS Permament? I mean, if, Say, Oekaiiii, promises to be good from now on, does the DoS get lifted?

I *DO* promise to be good, by the way..!!

No.. REALLY..!! I do..!!

It is silly to use actually name-calling. I just didn't quite realize how mind-
bogglingly stupid and/or sensative some folks are.

I do promise. :)

Thanks again..!

-The REAL Iakeo
Oekaiiiii
13-09-2005, 19:50
I actually do like your clientelle.

The feeling's not mutual

Rubish..! Many people are amused by my "actions" (be they conversation or comebacks, or whatever).


You are annoying...embryo.

Embryo..?

What an interesting thing to say. :)

Do elaborate on the relevance of the term "embryo"...


-The REAL Iakeo

(( I *DO* hate getting quotes wrong..!! ))
Crazy girl
13-09-2005, 19:55
got proof of it, kid?

and if you can't figure out the relevance, maybe it's your brain that needs to be stimulated...shame Frankenstein is only a story, but let's try the concept on this guy anyways? :D

Also, nice of you to ignore the rest, selective quoting is a show of weakness, same as rudeness.
Oekaiiiii
13-09-2005, 19:56
I don't know ...

Maybe if he actually were amusing. Or half as witty as he thinks himself to be. Or nearly as intelligent as he'd like us to believe by the simple use of somewhat elevated vocabulary.

Perhaps this is his way of pretending to have a life, sitting around and mocking/taunting/annoying a bunch of annonymous people on a free web game. Even the most simple of minds should be able to see that bans come into play when a person becomes so universally an irritant that the majority of users shouldn't HAVE to all resort to the ignore function on the count of one stupid sod. And that resources shouldn't have to be wasted on their filling up page after page of useless drivel that no one would be reading but themselves if everyone DID just ignore.

It's true. I really SHOULD be doing more constructive work. Though,.. so
should you folks as well.

I'm not a "universal irritant". I annoy only those who choose to be annoyed
by me, and that minority has an undue influence over the forum enforcement
of "rules".

The forum is yours to enforce as you will. It is also the right of all entrants to
express thenselves as they will, as long as they are also willing to take the
consequences. I'm perfectly willing to "play this little RP" with you. :)


One would think, if he were as 'mature' as he claims, he'd have better things to do.

--Nathi's Player
(Who's here not having a life today commenting on asshats because her car broke down. Yay.)

Indeed,.. I've been away for just that reason. But now I've some time
to "waste" on this distraction.

Just as you have time to "waste" on the distraction called "NationStates".


-The REAL Iakeo
Oekaiiiii
13-09-2005, 19:58
(Taken from Scrubs)

Congratulations! Your Dimaggio-like streak for saying nothing even remotely interesting is still alive and well!

*big thumbs up*

Thank you..!!

I consider it quite the achievement, of yours, for me to have tossed so many
well crafted words (PLEASE!) at your head and having NONE of them stick...!

Excellent uptake you've got there, buckeroo..!

-The REAL Iakeo
Oekaiiiii
13-09-2005, 20:01
got proof of it, kid?

and if you can't figure out the relevance, maybe it's your brain that needs to be stimulated...shame Frankenstein is only a story, but let's try the concept on this guy anyways? :D

Also, nice of you to ignore the rest, selective quoting is a show of weakness, same as rudeness.

Well, I could have cluttered up the posting, I suppose.

In any case,.. what would you have had me include? We can talk about that, then. :)

-The REAL Iakeo
The Noble Men
13-09-2005, 20:02
Thank you..!!

I consider it quite the achievement, of yours, for me to have tossed so many
well crafted words (PLEASE!) at your head and having NONE of them stick...!

Excellent uptake you've got there, buckeroo..!

-The REAL Iakeo

You? Well crafted words? I haven't laughed that hard in ages.