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Question regarding UN Resolution topic legality

Forgottenlands
12-09-2005, 05:38
Apologies if this one has already been addressed

Seperation of Church and State:

* Ideological Bans

Okay, so you hate capitalism. That's nice, but you can't ban it. Just like you can't ban communism, socialism, democracy, dictatorships, conservatives, liberals, christians, atheist, or any other political, religous, or economic ideology. While it should go without saying, this is up to the Game Moderator's descretion. You may consider the banning of slavery an oppression of your "economic ideology", we do not.

Theocracy, as we all know, is basically a state governed by a church - meaning that practically all hope of seperation of church and state is practically non-existant. As such, it occurs to me that the very concept of seperation of church and state is illegal to mandate - explicitly or implicitly. I'm interested to know whether this conclusion would be accurate?
Mikitivity
12-09-2005, 21:27
Apologies if this one has already been addressed

Seperation of Church and State:



Theocracy, as we all know, is basically a state governed by a church - meaning that practically all hope of seperation of church and state is practically non-existant. As such, it occurs to me that the very concept of seperation of church and state is illegal to mandate - explicitly or implicitly. I'm interested to know whether this conclusion would be accurate?

First, I like to call them the "Hacked Protocols" in reference to the previous "Enodian Protocols". :)

Second, it might help if you explain what it is you are trying to ultimately suggest be allowed or disallowed.
Frisbeeteria
12-09-2005, 22:01
I don't have any trouble understanding this.

Most "Separation of Church and State" resolutions explicity ban Theocratic forms of government. Since those are explicitly allowed, that would qualify as an 'ideological ban' under The Most Glorious Protocols (no, I won't indulge you, Mik :P) Those have been and will continue to be deleted.

I'd be interested to see if somebody could craft one that didn't ban theocracies. That one would be legal. Difficult to do, but legal.
HotRodia
12-09-2005, 22:15
I don't have any trouble understanding this.

Most "Separation of Church and State" resolutions explicity ban Theocratic forms of government. Since those are explicitly allowed, that would qualify as an 'ideological ban' under The Most Glorious Protocols (no, I won't indulge you, Mik :P) Those have been and will continue to be deleted.

I'd be interested to see if somebody could craft one that didn't ban theocracies. That one would be legal. Difficult to do, but legal.

I wrote this one some time ago under my Texan Hotrodders account. I think it's legal, but I could be wrong...

Separation of Church and State

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant

Description: The NationStates United Nations,

BELIEVING that the joining of governmental and religious entities often leads to negative consequences such as oppression, tyranny, and general harm to sovereign individuals.

NOTING that this august body has in the past expressed discontent with those sorts of negative consequences.

ENCOURAGES nations to place reasonable and practical limits on the relationship between governmental and religious entities in the interest of liberty and fairness.

URGES nations to refrain from causing harm to sovereign individuals on the basis of their religious beliefs or lack thereof.
Frisbeeteria
12-09-2005, 22:31
With only an "URGES" and "ENCOURAGES", I'd mark it down to "Mild", but I wouldn't delete over that. Apart from that, looks legal to me.
HotRodia
12-09-2005, 22:37
With only an "URGES" and "ENCOURAGES", I'd mark it down to "Mild", but I wouldn't delete over that. Apart from that, looks legal to me.

Nice. Score another legal proposal for HotRod. ;)