NationStates Jolt Archive

hey i was wondering if my flag is o.k, it doesn't break any rules (atleast not that I can see). i hope i can keep it. thankyou for your time.

Your flag right now is still at the default flag given to every nation. If you loaded a new one, hit F5 to force a full refresh on your browser.

Hi, please read the following thread for clarification of the flag rules:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438053

Your original flag does not meet the standards outlined here. No warning issued, but please don't reload it.

the flag I was referring to the one is one I just loaded (guess it didn't work)

(check out my nation for the flag....figured out what I did wrong)

is that one ok?

the flag I was referring to the one is one I just loaded (guess it didn't work)

(check out my nation for the flag....figured out what I did wrong)

is that one ok?I'm not a mod but I recognized that it was Hitler. I suppose it's a serious case decision because it doesn't show the swastika on his arm or the top of his face (Your motto would be more correct German if you got rid of the "Die", btw)

I personally dont see Hitler (the chin is too pointy) but just a generic Nazi getting blinded by a nuke... what I do see is that the swastika has been digitally removed from his arm, cool huh?

It's been removed twice. Don't reload it again.

']Apparently there's some confusion over our policy on acceptable images for flags (the kind you upload yourself). In particular, there's a mistaken belief that any image is fine so long as it doesn't include a swastika or nudity.

Nope! As per the FAQ, flags are subject to the same minimum standard as any other content: they can't be obscene, illegal, threatening, malicious, defamatory, spam, or have the primary aim of offending or upsetting people. And:

This has been the case from the beginning. However, I once answered a question about a three-pronged red and black flag by saying something like, "Only swastikas and swastika-like images are banned, not anything else," and the "anything else" was taken more literally than I intended. I apologize, particularly to the mods, for this confusion, and I'm sorry if it's lead to some inconsistent moderation.

To make life easier, here are some examples of what is and isn't acceptable. I expect there will be many borderline cases (there always are), but it's a simple principle. If a flag celebrates death, slavery, violence, or other not-nice things against real people, that's malicious, and will have the primary effect of offending.

Acceptable or Not? Some Examples
A swastika: not acceptable (Yes, it was used by Buddhists in the third Century, etc, etc, but that's not what it represents now. To the vast majority of people, the swastika represents the Holocaust. A nation with a swastika appears to be endorsing that event; that's malicious and has the primary effect of offending.)
A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis": fine
A swastika with little flowers and happy faces, on a nation called "The Friendly Nazis" that has the slogan: "We kill Jews with kindness": not fine
A flag of Hitler looking all stern: no (Only one interpretation available there.)
A flag of Hitler wearing an apron with fake boobs that says "Kiss the Cook": fine
Actual boobs: no (I know, I know, who gets offended by breasts? But it's only fun to post them because it's naughty, and that's why it's banned)
The iron cross: my feeling is it's usually okay, because I don't think most people even recognize it. But if the nation also had a name, slogan, etc, that seemed to be glorifying Bad Things, then no
That SS lightning slash thing: no
Something that looks a lot like a swastika if you squint just right: mods would need to judge the intent. If it's just a blatant attempt to get around the swastika ban, then no. If it seems coincidental -- e.g. nothing else about the nation seems to endorse violence against real people -- then it's fine.
A swastika and it's on a clearly pro-Nazi nation but honest it's just roleplaying: no. Sorry, you might be RPing but if that's not obvious to other people, then the primary effect of your flag will be to offend and upset, even though you don't intend it.
The hammer and sickle: fine (Yes, I'm aware of the hundreds of millions of deaths. But when people look at the hammer and sickle, they think communism, not mass graves. If you can point me at a survey that shows otherwise, then we'll deem this one malicious, too. But until then, it's just a Soviet flag.)
The Japanese flag, or the American one, or the British one, or... : fine (Most people don't primarily associate any of these with death or violence.)
The Japanese flag on a nation with the slogan, "We bombed your grandparents": no
To make that point again: we don't ban particular patterns of colored pixels, we ban any content that is malicious in nature. The mods' job is to judge which is which, according to guidelines like this.

And because I know this is going to come up again: I realize that you can point out a bunch of different groups that committed terrible acts, and yet we're not banning their flags. That's because we're not banning the symbols of every group that scored a particular body count; we're prohibiting content that is malicious in nature and to most people will have the primary effect of offending. Not a few people, not just you, but most people. That's the criteria.

The forums permit relatively free speech on a range of issues, so, as the FAQ says, if you've got a political ax to grind, do it here, where people can argue back. Please don't put it in your flag when you know it will piss people off.

sorry about that i just thought it would be ok because there was no swastika and you couldnt see hitler just a guy with no face