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I didn't come here to be insulted...

Grampus
17-08-2005, 03:44
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9459980&postcount=101

O.K. , how about this? If you fuck with the Marines, or their supporters, they will kill you, whether you are GOOD or BAD. Fuck with them=Die. Is that clear enough for you, ya needy bitch?
Katganistan
17-08-2005, 04:08
Reading thread to see who-all needs a reminder...
Grampus
17-08-2005, 15:52
Thanks, but I didn't expect a deletion to be the result here.
Sarzonia
17-08-2005, 16:26
Considering his history and the fact there were several death threats, I seriously doubt the Mods will reconsider that decision.
Katganistan
17-08-2005, 16:28
There were several death threats there, the most egregious being along the lines of if you fuck with the marines or their supporters, they will KILL you.

Sick Dreams certainly claimed himself as a supporter -- although I have to say as someone who DOES know a marine, I think they would have been disgusted at his portrayal of them.

Death threats are always taken seriously here -- always have been.
Grampus
17-08-2005, 16:44
Fair enough: I hadn't actually read any of his comments as being actual death threats, instead statements of his perception of how the Marines operate.
Liverbreath
17-08-2005, 16:55
Fair enough: I hadn't actually read any of his comments as being actual death threats, instead statements of his perception of how the Marines operate.

Because they were not death threats. The following is a death threat and also posted yesterday.

Zexaland - "You're funny, girlie. That's why I'm gonna kill you last.

*Loads Colt 45* "

This individual was warned for Flaming

But it is an occupational hazard when one chooses to snitch on people, they never get to interpret the law or decide the punishment. Even when it is wrong.
Jocabia
17-08-2005, 18:56
I'm a former Marine and I was disgusted by what he had to say. I'm not sure he was making a death threat. I think he was more referring to enemies. And I think he meant other branches and militaries of other countries when he said supporters. However, it was still ridiculously ignorant.
Euroslavia
17-08-2005, 21:20
Liverbreath']Because they were not death threats. The following is a death threat and also posted yesterday.

Zexaland - "You're funny, girlie. That's why I'm gonna kill you last.

*Loads Colt 45* "

This individual was warned for Flaming

But it is an occupational hazard when one chooses to snitch on people, they never get to interpret the law or decide the punishment. Even when it is wrong.
Death threats don't necessarily have to be "I'm going to ...". I concur with my associate, Katganistan, that these were indeed serious death threats of a different variant, but nevertheless, threats.

When the rules are broken, people get punished. It's as simple as that. Reporting them here makes the job a bit easier for us, so that we don't have to sent out the attack dogs to find them theirselves. Just for further reference, multiple moderators are often consulted for rulings, so that the post in question is fully understood.
Liverbreath
17-08-2005, 22:20
Death threats don't necessarily have to be "I'm going to ...". I concur with my associate, Katganistan, that these were indeed serious death threats of a different variant, but nevertheless, threats.

When the rules are broken, people get punished. It's as simple as that. Reporting them here makes the job a bit easier for us, so that we don't have to sent out the attack dogs to find them theirselves. Just for further reference, multiple moderators are often consulted for rulings, so that the post in question is fully understood.

Of course Euro, what constitutes a death threat here is entirely up to mod interpretation as it is private property. That said however, the young man made a statement of fact as he percieved it, as to how a branch of the US military operated. There is no way a reasonable person could conclude this individual had the ability or desire to call the marines and order them to go kill some one because he supported them, nor, did he say or imply that it was his intention to do so.
On the other hand, when someone says, "Cute girlie, I am going to kill you last." One has crossed the line of implied and entered into a direct threat, with the apparent ability to carry it out, as anyone can pick up a gun and fire. There is a huge difference here.
As I see it, both these incidents could provide the mod's with some very useful guidelines in dealing with such incidents and their respective punishments. As the matter stands however, I would fear that it could be easily argued that there were personal or political reasons for the despairity in sentencing. (if of course that even matters)
My point is not to defend the young man, as truth be told, I found his post somewhat embarrassing being former military myself. It was only to illustrate that the result of over enthusiastic snitching can often have unintended consequences.
As a whole I would commend you all on a very difficult job, dealing with very difficult people, on a daily basis, so please do not consider this an attack against the mods in any way shape or form. I wouldn't do your job for money.
The Most Glorious Hack
18-08-2005, 02:25
Liverbreath'] On the other hand, when someone says, "Cute girlie, I am going to kill you last." One has crossed the line of implied and entered into a direct threat, with the apparent ability to carry it out, as anyone can pick up a gun and fire. There is a huge difference here. Or, one is paraphrasing a movie. Commando, specifically.
Liverbreath
18-08-2005, 06:18
Or, one is paraphrasing a movie. Commando, specifically.

Point taken, not a serious issue. I will comment no further.
New Velkya
18-08-2005, 22:06
Wow, that kid needs a time-out.