NationStates Jolt Archive


Why do we have to put up with this???

Eutrusca
11-08-2005, 14:20
I have no objection if someone wants to create a forum for their own language, but to constantly post in an ideographic language on a forum where it's obvious that the majority use a Latin-based language is, as far as I'm concerned, spam.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437009
Fass
11-08-2005, 14:30
I don't think we should discriminate based on alphabets - what about ÅÄÖÞ and cyrillic? - and I don't know about you, Eutrusca, but my language is most certainly not Latin-based. Neither is Finnish, by the way, and we had quite a long thread in it a while back, IIRC.

I see no reason why Japanese, or any other language that uses a different alphabet than English does, should be singeled out.
Grampus
11-08-2005, 14:35
- and I don't know about you, Eutrusca, but my language is most certainly not Latin-based.

To be fair to Eutrusca here, Swedish may not be Latin based as far as linguistic rules go, but it does use the Roman (ie. Latin) alphabet. However, having said that I personally consider his arbitrary definition of spam here to be ludicrous.
Eutrusca
11-08-2005, 14:42
To be fair to Eutrusca here, Swedish may not be Latin based as far as linguistic rules go, but it does use the Roman (ie. Latin) alphabet. However, having said that I personally consider his arbitrary definition of spam here to be ludicrous.
"Ludicrous." Heh!

Ok ... nevermind. I just get frustrated when there are threads I cannot read, whether it's because they are in an unfamiliar language, or because they advance ideas of such ludicrous idiocy as to be untranslatable into comprehensible language. If we banned all those, where would the leftists post?? LOL! :D
Heron-Marked Warriors
11-08-2005, 14:42
I wonder: do any of the mods speak Japanese?
Anonymous Self
11-08-2005, 14:51
If we banned all those, where would the leftists post?? LOL! :D

Your an arse
Heron-Marked Warriors
11-08-2005, 14:54
Your an arse

Depending on which of the errors was the one you didn't mean, that's either a flame or an extremely weird chat-up line :p
Cannabes
11-08-2005, 14:55
I don't think we have the right to shut someone down just because we're IGNORANT on the person's language.

"Why do we have to put up with this?"
in fact nobody has to put up with this, you just have to learn japanese.

It would be interesting if all the chinese people suddenly invaded thids forum and decided they wouldn't have to put up with english language.
Think about that

By the way i'm portuguese
Katganistan
11-08-2005, 14:59
Your an arse

You're unpleasant. Knock it off.
Daistallia 2104
11-08-2005, 15:05
I have no objection if someone wants to create a forum for their own language, but to constantly post in an ideographic language on a forum where it's obvious that the majority use a Latin-based language is, as far as I'm concerned, spam.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437009


If you want to shut that down, you'll have to ask the mods to shut down everyother non-English thread....
Mykonians
11-08-2005, 15:12
I don't mind. Now, if they were to start posting in existing threads with no regard for the fact that this is primarily an English-based forum, then I'd have a problem -- that would just be rude, apart from anything else. But I don't mind creating threads for your specific language. I just appreciate that so many people know English in the first place. Saves me having to learn any languages :D. I'm terrible at languages...
Legal Diversities
11-08-2005, 15:12
You type in a romanic form not latin.
If players have to use a different typing format to commicate, then so be it. At least 'nationstates' is becoming more universal.

In fact, though I am not Japanese I can read (even my computer can). So if you have no interest then just ignore it. Or send them a message in romanic form asking for the contents (or to write in romanic in the future, you may actually achieve more!!)
Frangland
11-08-2005, 15:16
I have no objection if someone wants to create a forum for their own language, but to constantly post in an ideographic language on a forum where it's obvious that the majority use a Latin-based language is, as far as I'm concerned, spam.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437009

eutrusca, you know that the latin-based languages are Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French and Romanian.

Swedish and English are Germanic
NERVUN
11-08-2005, 15:18
Eutrusca, just so you don't have to worry about us speaking Japanese behind your back, all that has been said, for the most part, is information about Japan and Japanese speakers.

And we have switched over to romaji for your convenince so you can now follow along if you want to.
Sinuhue
11-08-2005, 16:42
Ok ... nevermind. I just get frustrated when there are threads I cannot read, whether it's because they are in an unfamiliar language,or because they advance ideas of such ludicrous idiocy as to be untranslatable into comprehensible language. If we banned all those, where would the leftists post?? LOL! :D
Must you be so prejudiced even in the mod forum? Is it just the alphabet you object to? What about the dutch thread? What about Spanish threads? Or any other language you may not speak? Why should their existence offend you?

In any case, Mods...are non-English threads allowable or not? It seems that they are...but what are the restrictions (aside from following the rules like everyone else) if any?
Sumamba Buwhan
11-08-2005, 21:13
they advance ideas of such ludicrous idiocy as to be untranslatable into comprehensible language. If we banned all those, where would the leftists post?? LOL! :D


har har har

I think political attacks are frowned upon in Moderation.
E-Xtremia
12-08-2005, 00:22
IIRC, non-english threads are a-okay reguardless of their alphabet, as long as they adhere to the rules of the forums. If someone places a report about the CONTENT of the thread going south, the mods will look into it however they may need to.

Oh, and perhaps a merge with another topic on the same topic?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437010
Sdaeriji
12-08-2005, 00:26
Can we start calling posts with poor grammar and spelling spam as well?
E-Xtremia
12-08-2005, 00:31
Poor spelling and grammar are not a problem (if they were, I'd be long since DOS'ed) but any sort of spam for the sake of spam is not okay.

IE, if someone started like a Kanji (I think I got that right... one of the 3 alphabets for Japanese-speakers) word-game thread, that would be a no-go.
Sdaeriji
12-08-2005, 00:37
Poor spelling and grammar are not a problem (if they were, I'd be long since DOS'ed) but any sort of spam for the sake of spam is not okay.

IE, if someone started like a Kanji (I think I got that right... one of the 3 alphabets for Japanese-speakers) word-game thread, that would be a no-go.

Right, but Eutrusca and others' argument is that since most people can't read the Japanese, it's spam. I'm just wondering how far we can extend that logic. I know that I have a hard time reading some people's posts.
The Most Glorious Hack
12-08-2005, 01:28
Alright, that's enough guys. No need to dogpile.

As long as we allow posts in languages other than English, we're going to allow them in non-Western scripts. People posting threads entirely in such a script should be careful, however. They're more likely to be reported as spam, as not everyone as Asian or Arabic charsets installed. Might want to try using transliterations instead, but it's up to you.

It's not like these people are posting in Coptic. They're using a living language.
NERVUN
12-08-2005, 04:56
They're more likely to be reported as spam, as not everyone as Asian or Arabic charsets installed. Might want to try using transliterations instead, but it's up to you.
Would it work out if we posted a small update somewhere on what the current topic of discussion is, in English, to show that no spamming is taking place?
Frisbeeteria
12-08-2005, 05:00
Would it work out if we posted a small update somewhere on what the current topic of discussion is, in English, to show that no spamming is taking place?
That's a fine idea.
The Nazz
12-08-2005, 06:59
Would it work out if we posted a small update somewhere on what the current topic of discussion is, in English, to show that no spamming is taking place?
If there is spam in a forum and no one can understand it, is it really spam? Ooooooooooooohhhhhhh.


sorry.
NERVUN
12-08-2005, 08:24
If there is spam in a forum and no one can understand it, is it really spam? Ooooooooooooohhhhhhh.
バカ。 :p
Eho nehevehohtse
12-08-2005, 16:25
Let me get this straight...

He wants to have threads closed down because he can't read them? Obviously SOMEONE is reading the threads.

Seems a bit paranoid to me, as if he thinks anything he doesn't understand must be people talking about him behind his back. There's lots of threads I don't read here. Should they be deleted because I dont read them? That's just silly.

Should my nation be deleted because Eutrusca doesn't read Cheyenne?