NationStates Jolt Archive


To the Moderators

Jeegee
07-08-2005, 19:48
I am not aware of the reason why my other two threads were locked. I simply asked for moderation help and wondered if anyone would help me with a new forum that I made here: http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_History_Lounge/index.php?act=idx

I was not asking for members, nor was I wishing to steal forum members from NationStates.

Sincerely,

Jeegee
LazyHippies
07-08-2005, 19:50
There is a moderation forum. Thats where you should post this, not here.
Potaria
07-08-2005, 19:51
What he said.
New Fubaria
07-08-2005, 19:53
Jeegee, I would suggest you delete this topic and repost it in the Moderation forum. I tend to agree with you, but asking in General is just likely to antagonise them.

My 2 cents is that NS has waaay more than enough members that it shouldn't feel leeched or threatened by members pluggin their own sites, IMHO...
Euroslavia
07-08-2005, 19:53
Essentially, by posting such a thing in NS General, you will be taking players from General, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

I'm interested in creating a discussion board for intelligent people who want to talk about politics and history, even general stuff, and not be distracted/harassed by spammers.

Anyone interested in helping me create one with me?

There are plenty of serious discussions about politics and history in here, if you haven't noticed. The thread was closed for advertising your own forum over this, which happens to be a forum for everything you suggest that your forum is.


~The Modified Freedom Forces of Euroslavia
Nationstates Forum Moderator~
Jeegee
07-08-2005, 19:56
Yet, its not advertising. Its simply asking for people who are interested in history and who know a little bit about computers to help me.

It's not saying: HERE COME TO MY SITE, I HOPE YOU JOIN IT!
Lord-General Drache
07-08-2005, 19:59
Yet, its not advertising. Its simply asking for people who are interested in history and who know a little bit about computers to help me.

It's not saying: HERE COME TO MY SITE, I HOPE YOU JOIN IT!
It's advertising. You're marketing an idea in the hopes of people joining your site.
Jeegee
07-08-2005, 20:00
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=432128

Then I suggest you want to delete this thread?
Kuehenberg
07-08-2005, 20:01
*bump*
Euroslavia
07-08-2005, 20:04
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=432128

Then I suggest you want to delete this thread?

Actually, that situation is different, because he's advertising a roleplaying forum. There are multiple off-site roleplaying forums that players participate in. He isn't suggesting that the Generalites leave the General forum to debate somewhere else, he is promoting that site, along with the usage of NationStates info. One of the popular ones happens to be "World At War".

*bump*

Absolutely no need to 'bump' it after 1 minute.

~The Modified Freedom Forces of Euroslavia
Nationstates Forum Moderator~
Jeegee
07-08-2005, 20:08
However, they clearly have a link in their thread. So that means its advertising.
Greater Googlia
07-08-2005, 20:13
Actually,

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=432128

That's my thread, and I am going to have to ask a mod to please lock/delete it at this time. Not because it's spam or advertising (as Euroslavia explained), but because since the original posting of that thread, it's turned into a lot of bumping and spamming. Not to mention, after I played it for about a month, I realized that the set up they have for their rules system isn't that great, and I don't want them using my thread for advertising any more. If they wish to continue to advertise they can try to come up with a message as crafty as mine that will be okay with the mods, but I do not want them using mine any more. (And I deleted the link, again, because I don't feel like I want them to use me as an advertiser any more.)

So, please lock or delete.
Jeegee
07-08-2005, 20:21
I just want to say I was not asking for members but clearly asking for help. There is a difference, a difference that you people seem not to understand.
Greater Googlia
07-08-2005, 20:25
No, I think I understand it, and I'm more than sure the mods understand it, however, it really doesn't make much difference. You're advertising for a forum that would be a DIRECT competitor with NS General.

Now, NS General isn't really looking for making profits, and your forum probably isn't either, but if the mods allowed people to take forum members from NS General and go to some other forum, then NS General will lose lots of its appeal and all the interesting discussions that we are allowed to have here simply wouldn't happen because there are not enough people hanging around to offer up the extremely wide variety of opinions we already have here.

EDIT: Your rules at your forum (his rules (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_History_Lounge/index.php?showtopic=1), for the mods reference ) seem decent enough, and they're pretty common sense. Yet, when they're mostly the same rules that NS General has (except NS General is probably more loose on some of them), and you can't follow those rules here, what's to make anyone believe that you can follow your own rules at your forum, which covers the same content as NS General (except not as much, aside from the "general" section)?

EDIT2: This thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436512) started off good (even though I could predict what was going to happen), and then boom (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9393075&postcount=15)! It happened. Exactly what I predicted. Giving someone your AIM screen name (or any other contact information) with the explicit intentions of sharing a link to a website isn't much different than simply putting the link to that website in the post itself, in my opinion.

By the way, he has the link to his website in his signature--and that instance is obviously advertising:
http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_History_Lounge/index.php?act=idx

Go to my forum site. I need people!

EDIT3: Trying to get AIM names (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436524), probably because no one is interested in sending him a message, so instead he has to trick people into putting their AIM name here so he can then begin spamming his forum to them across AIM. Now, in a normal situation, I don't think a thread for listing AIM screen names would be too terrible of an idea, but do to the fact that all of JeeGee's posts are an effort to promote his competing forum, I believe it's quite obvious what is going on here.
New Fubaria
07-08-2005, 22:29
I honestly don't see how a member's personal forum could be any threat to something as massive as the NS forums.

Not a direct comparison, but I moderate at a certain gaming forum, and we are happy for people to advertise their own fansites and forums...
The Most Glorious Hack
07-08-2005, 23:00
I honestly don't see how a member's personal forum could be any threat to something as massive as the NS forums.It's not a threat, of course. The point, however, is that we don't have these forums so that people can shill for their own forums; this isn't an advertising site.

Links to offsite forums in a person's signature are one thing, a thread who's entire purpose is to hawk your forum is something else entirely.
New Fubaria
07-08-2005, 23:15
Fair enough ;)