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I'm about fed up with this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8999206).

One of the general forum's decent posters is being unnecessarily targetted by the long arm of the law (aka - those incorrigible mods), and has been sadly deleted. They've given up the fight.

We can't let a good poster bite the dust! We must fight for the good!

So, sign up and fight for not only their right, but all the rights of the posters here to not be deleted without adequate reason!!

I'll be around until the decide to ban me permanently. Unfortunately that should happen any day now.

I'll be around until the decide to ban me permanently. Unfortunately that should happen any day now.
You have my support.Any petition and I'll sign it.

So, we can take this to the mod forum!

And how do you proposed we fight?

It is not as if we have any particular leverage.

And how do you proposed we fight?

It is not as if we have any particular leverage.
Bug the hell out of the mods?

They can't ban us for asking.

They can't delete us for asking.

And how do you proposed we fight?

It is not as if we have any particular leverage.

Yep. It's Max Barry's personal pluralist dictatorship.

(hee. Coming up with terms is fun.)

Bug the hell out of the mods?

They can't ban us for asking.

They can't delete us for asking.

I suppose they could.

In any case, Drunk Commies is one of the vastly more reasonable voices on this forum. So I think they should cut him a break.

Bug the hell out of the mods?

They can't ban us for asking.

They can't delete us for asking.

Make a bet? Technically, they can do what they like. If they feel your request is out of line and you're too persistent, there's nothing stopping them.

I suppose they could.

In any case, Drunk Commies is one of the vastly more reasonable voices on this forum. So I think they should cut him a break.
I've been called alot of things on this forum, but reasonable? This is a first.

Bug the hell out of the mods?

They can't ban us for asking.

They can't delete us for asking.

I'm not as confident as you are. I've seen posters getting warned for similar this. Apparently annoying mods is an offence, albeit a minor one. Don't know if anyone has been deleted for it though, just warned.

I've been called alot of things on this forum, but reasonable? This is a first.
Not a first. I did agree with Cat Tribe once.

So this must be the sign of the apocalypse...

I'm not as confident as you are. I've seen posters getting warned for similar this. Apparently annoying mods is an offence, albeit a minor one. Don't know if anyone has been deleted for it though, just warned.
Warning for being diplomatic?

I've got to try and get me one of those! Seriously... That way if they warn me for any of my usual BS, I can say, "hey, you warned be about being diplomatic". That ought to put 'em in their place.

if there's anything i can do to help i will

Not a first. I did agree with Cat Tribe once.

So this must be the sign of the apocalypse...
Yes it is... they DID agree with them. I thought the sky was falling when it happened.

I suppose they could.

In any case, Drunk Commies is one of the vastly more reasonable voices on this forum. So I think they should cut him a break.

Seconded.

I'm about fed up with this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8999206).

One of the general forum's decent posters is being unnecessarily targetted by the long arm of the law (aka - those incorrigible mods), and has been sadly deleted. They've given up the fight.

We can't let a good poster bite the dust! We must fight for the good!

So, sign up and fight for not only their right, but all the rights of the posters here to not be deleted without adequate reason!!

I agree! We need DCR to keep balance within the forums!

Warning for being diplomatic?

I've got to try and get me one of those! Seriously... That way if they warn me for any of my usual BS, I can say, "hey, you warned be about being diplomatic". That ought to put 'em in their place.
:D

You'd probably be deleted for being a smart arse.

I'm in! I like Drunk commies in all his incarnations!

You'd probably be deleted for being a smart arse.

Do that and they'd have to delete everyone.

I appreciate the support, but the mods won't like this. Don't make enemies of them on my behalf. Thanks for the support though.

I'm in, mods can't delete us all, they'd be chaos...all the new puppets springing up...

I appreciate the support, but the mods won't like this. Don't make enemies of them on my behalf. Thanks for the support though.
You're one of the non-mod heads of this place, like FairyTInk.

I appreciate the support, but the mods won't like this. Don't make enemies of them on my behalf. Thanks for the support though.

What are friends for? Anything for my favorite alcoholic Marxists! ;)

I'll support you too, DC, i would really miss your brilliant humor... :(

I'll help if I can.

Really folks, thanks, but let's just cut it out before the mods get all vengefull or something.

Which mod gave you the chop.

Really folks, thanks, but let's just cut it out before the mods get all vengefull or something.

If they got vengeful, that could destroy the forum.

I am sad that DCR was deleted.

I hope the new DCD lives long and prospers.

But I wonder if those complaining about Mod oppression read this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423319) explaining why DCR was deleted.

We all know offenses are cumulative. Drunk Commies did the Jesussaves puppet, which got Jesussaves deleted and DC forumbanned. During the ban DC, posted through a puppet. That got DC deleted.

As explained by the Mods (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8999074&postcount=9), drunk commies reborn was deleted for:
Minor warning for 'in before the lock' crap[http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread...18#post8577318] - || FORUMBANNED - 3 days - threatening post. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...5&postcount=168
ALSO, DELETED - Combination of flamebait ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...07&postcount=98 ), more flamebait ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...7&postcount=138 ), and borderline trolling. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423189 (1 June 2005, 10:24 PM EDT)"

I'm not saying I agree with every part of this decision. But it can hardly be said DC or DCR was the victim of Mod persecution.

DCD would be wise to merely stay carefully within the rules, especially until the heat blows over.

If they got vengeful, that could destroy the forum.
Remember what happened to Elvis Grotto? Massive mod-bomb.

The mods need to calm down and let us speak more openly. I mean come on, freedom of speech here. We have a right to bash at someone, and most of the time you people say cause your ticked off. If a fight breaks out just leave it alone and let it develop, what are they gonna do call a hitman on someone across the world? I seriously dont see why mods are always messing in our conversations

What is the significance of "In before the lock"?
My forum search only looked for "lock" which was rather common. :rolleyes:

Im with you guys all the way

The mods need to calm down and let us speak more openly. I mean come on, freedom of speech here. We have a right to bash at someone, and most of the time you people say cause your ticked off. If a fight breaks out just leave it alone and let it develop, what are they gonna do call a hitman on someone across the world? I seriously dont see why mods are always messing in our conversations
This is a privately owned forum so freedom of speech is at the owner's mercy.

What is the significance of "In before the lock"?
My forum search only looked for "lock" which was rather common. :rolleyes:
Before the mods decided it was spamming some people, me included, used to post it in threads we assumed would be locked quickly. Kind of a race against the mods. Can we get in before the thread's locked?

This is a privately owned forum so freedom of speech is at the owner's mercy.

You would think a political based website would have more freedom for us.. I mean come on its politics. The other day a fight broke out in the senate in some South America country, i forgot which one though.. Like it or not most debates over politics turn nasty, two human beings trying to impose their point of views on each other... yeah that normally isint good

I'm confused. DC...didn't all this posting under Temporary Nations while on forumban happen around the time my HerPower got deleted? That was a while ago...so why the deletion NOW??

Remember what happened to Elvis Grotto? Massive mod-bomb.

No I don't. I've not been here long enough it seems.

Before the mods decided it was spamming some people, me included, used to post it in threads we assumed would be locked quickly. Kind of a race against the mods. Can we get in before the thread's locked?
So if you were to post "Hi everybody, I'm doctor Nick!" you'd be fine but posting "In before the lock" is spam?

I am happy to present the case against the mod's ruling as presented by the SDDC.

The SDDC Diplomatic Envoy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423348).

I want to see how the mods take to this.

I'll be around until the decide to ban me permanently. Unfortunately that should happen any day now.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light!

I'm confused. DC...didn't all this posting under Temporary Nations while on forumban happen around the time my HerPower got deleted? That was a while ago...so why the deletion NOW??

The nation of "Drunken commies" got deleted for evading the forumban as Temporary_Nations.

The nation of "Drunken commies reborn" just got deleted for a set of new offenses. Clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8999074&postcount=9)

(Disclaimer: I am sad to see DCR be deleted and I am not saying the deletion was just. But I don't like the way misinformation is being used to make the case more sympathetic than it is.)

So if you were to post "Hi everybody, I'm doctor Nick!" you'd be fine but posting "In before the lock" is spam?

I'm not sure myself, but I nominate you to try it. :D

Nice arguments, it looks like DC has done nothing worse than I've done myself-albet a bit funnyer..

I'm not sure myself, but I nominate you to try it. :D
Point me at a soon to be locked thread!

preety ovbious the mods have a grudge against him :(

In before the lock = spam :mad:
Hail Satan = acceptable. :)

The nation of "Drunken commies" got deleted for evading the forumban as Temporary_Nations.

The nation of "Drunken commies reborn" just got deleted for a set of new offenses. Clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8999074&postcount=9)

(Disclaimer: I am sad to see DCR be deleted and I am not saying the deletion was just. But I don't like the way misinformation is being used to make the case more sympathetic than it is.)
Dude, you're a lawyer, right? Please tell me you don't handle criminal defense.

Point me at a soon to be locked thread!

This one here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423335&page=1&pp=15)

Point me at a soon to be locked thread!

Hmm. How unusual, there isn't one around right now. No lock-imminent threads on General? It must be the apocalypse!
:eek:

This one here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423335&page=1&pp=15)

Actually, good point. LOL

Hmm. How unusual, there isn't one around right now. No lock-imminent threads on General? It must be the apocalypse!
:eek:

Oh HELL no...

*hides under rather large quilt*

*Since MSN isn't working... How about SoulSeek?

The nation of "Drunken commies" got deleted for evading the forumban as Temporary_Nations.

The nation of "Drunken commies reborn" just got deleted for a set of new offenses. Clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8999074&postcount=9)

(Disclaimer: I am sad to see DCR be deleted and I am not saying the deletion was just. But I don't like the way misinformation is being used to make the case more sympathetic than it is.)
The thing is, I know they use past offenses against you, but none of what DC did was all that serious...I mean, the "In before the lock" thing was dumb, but the rest of it is his style, and the way he has ALWAYS posted. He calls people on it when they attack him, and he can get down and dirty...but that comment about the daughter was NOT threatening. It was absurd, and he meant it that way.

Frankly, most of us have run afoul of the rules here and again...but cripes...we should get a break. This seemed to come out of nowhere, and DC HAS toned it down since Drunken Commies was deleted. It just seems weird that, months later, it's suddenly an issue again.

Meh, what drunk commies reborn posted wasn't really deserving of a ban, IMHO. Look at the transgender thread in context and suddenly DCR is a considerate, thoughtful voice of reason.

I must say, everything in the links provided by the moderator seems incredibly tame and trivial. None of it appeared worth mentioning - let alone banning or deletion. Of course, the last link is not working. Maybe the real offense is in there. As for the "flaming" - DCR seemed to be showing admirable restraint in the face of obvious provocation.

Nice arguments, it looks like DC has done nothing worse than I've done myself-albet a bit funnyer..
Yeah.

I've done stuff just as bad and I have nary a warning on me purty head.

And certain posters on General seem to be able to do the same sort of things, and consistantly get away with it. I'm royally sick of the double standard.

Hi everybody, I'm doctor Nick!

I must say, everything in the links provided by the moderator seems incredibly tame and trivial. None of it appeared worth mentioning - let alone banning or deletion. Of course, the last link is not working. Maybe the real offense is in there. As for the "flaming" - DCR seemed to be showing admirable restraint in the face of obvious provocation.
That's what I'm thinking, but I pointed out that there was nothing there that added to the litany of allegations.

Hi everybody, I'm doctor Nick!

Hi, doctor Nick!

And certain posters on General seem to be able to do the same sort of things, and consistantly get away with it. I'm royally sick of the double standard.
I've seen Dobbs have the same problem. He's perfectly reasonable with me, but put a troll in front of him, and who gets deleted? Dobbs does.

However, the mods are the mods. And it's their forum, not ours. Precious little that we can do one way or the other.

Yeah.

I've done stuff just as bad and I have nary a warning on me purty head.
I've not got one, but most of my crimes have been on II and therefore havn't been noticed by the mods as they don't cheak those forums. I've had a unoffical one for spamming on the Top 100 NS Posters thread.

And certain posters on General seem to be able to do the same sort of things, and consistantly get away with it. I'm royally sick of the double standard.
I know what you mean. It totally sucks and is so incredibly unfair.

I've not got one, but most of my crimes have been on II and therefore havn't been noticed by the mods as they don't cheak those forums. I've had a unoffical one for spamming on the Top 100 NS Posters thread.
The only warning I have is against a puppet nation of mine, which I spawned a puppet. And my warning was regional spamming in retaliation for it being done to mine.

Dude, you're a lawyer, right? Please tell me you don't handle criminal defense.

Dude, I have and sometimes do handle criminal defense.

I have, in fact, worked as a public defender.

But that is not the slightest bit relevant.

If it's so annoying, why not just create your own board. Never post in NS, just on your own. If enough people support it, that board will become a second NS board.
Try out this site:
http://www.proboards.com/index.html

Preety cool to see players stand up for their rights against the "Man" :)..... Its like a big brotherhood (im talking nonsence now)

The thing is, I know they use past offenses against you, but none of what DC did was all that serious...I mean, the "In before the lock" thing was dumb, but the rest of it is his style, and the way he has ALWAYS posted. He calls people on it when they attack him, and he can get down and dirty...but that comment about the daughter was NOT threatening. It was absurd, and he meant it that way.

Frankly, most of us have run afoul of the rules here and again...but cripes...we should get a break. This seemed to come out of nowhere, and DC HAS toned it down since Drunken Commies was deleted. It just seems weird that, months later, it's suddenly an issue again.

I agree. Worst thing is, on that thread with the daughter comment, I said some things that were worse than that, yet I've had nothing.

I've seen Dobbs have the same problem. He's perfectly reasonable with me, but put a troll in front of him, and who gets deleted? Dobbs does.


Yup. Dobbs always gets it. Frick.

Dude, I have and sometimes do handle criminal defense.

I have, in fact, worked as a public defender.

But that is not the slightest bit relevant.
Cat, quit being so damn reasonable for a change.

If it's so annoying, why not just create your own board. Never post in NS, just on your own. If enough people support it, that board will become a second NS board.
Try out this site:
http://www.proboards.com/index.html

lol. You're funny.

Yup. Dobbs always gets it. Frick.
the pattern I've seen for Dobbs is:

troll comes along
trolls
dobbs feeds troll
troll slams dobbs with a flame
dobbs flames back in a minor way (but still a flame)
troll reports to mods
mods delete dobbs

or

troll comes along
trolls
dobbs feeds troll
troll slams dobbs with a flame
dobbs flames back in a minor way (but still a flame)
dobbs reports to mods
mods delete dobbs

I think the lesson is that if you're really visible, and you use a nation state name very similar to the previous one, when the mods are trying to figure out who to blow away, they look for the person with the bigger pile of previous incidents.

After a while, it accumulates, and you can sneeze at the wrong time, and they blow you away.

I agree. Worst thing is, on that thread with the daughter comment, I said some things that were worse than that, yet I've had nothing.
And if you read between the lines and look at the quote, you know it's NOT a serious remark by DCR.

And if you read between the lines and look at the quote, you know it's NOT a serious remark by DCR.

But the Mods didn't.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! :mad:

This situation is preety simple... The mods have the power, and DC is a preety well known liberal poster I guess... Its if DC is the hippie leader complaining about the war and causing rebellions all over the world... While the UN are the mods, not surprisingly the hippie leader is sniped by the UN.. and thus no more rebellions and no more DC

This situation is preety simple... The mods have the power, and DC is a preety well known liberal poster I guess... Its if DC is the hippie leader complaining about the war and causing rebellions all over the world... While the UN are the mods, not surprisingly the hippie leader is sniped by the UN.. and thus no more rebellions and no more DC

Sounds like your saying DC is a scapegoat.

And what is this "Elvis Grotto" thing?

I miss Jesussaves. He was hilarious! Bring back Jesussaves!

Sounds like your saying DC is a scapegoat.

And what is this "Elvis Grotto" thing?

No.. Not a scapegoat... Just a really anoying fly bothering god is more like it

I miss Jesussaves. He was hilarious! Bring back Jesussaves!

And HerPower :(

I must say, everything in the links provided by the moderator seems incredibly tame and trivial. None of it appeared worth mentioning - let alone banning or deletion. Of course, the last link is not working. Maybe the real offense is in there. As for the "flaming" - DCR seemed to be showing admirable restraint in the face of obvious provocation.

Okay, this is quite scary. Gartref has made a serious point!

If this isn't representative of how people feel what is?

We should have started a poll to see who would be in support of the SDCC.

And who is Elvis Grotto?

I suppose they could.

In any case, Drunk Commies is one of the vastly more reasonable voices on this forum. So I think they should cut him a break.
.

.

:confused:

But seriously, who is Elvis Grotto?

well i don't know what the hell is going on, but it would be a damn shame for you to leave DC
or have to leave

:confused:

But seriously, who is Elvis Grotto?
you cant just quote a post and leave it, you have to put a character in

its agreeing with it, instead of writing the same thing out again

well i don't know what the hell is going on, but it would be a damn shame for you to leave DC
or have to leave

Seconded.

Does anyone know who Elvis Grotto is?

you cant just quote a post and leave it, you have to put a character in

its agreeing with it, instead of writing the same thing out again

Thanks for that explination.

In before the lock.

In before the lock.

We've not been locked. Yet.

Who is Elvis Grotto?

We've not been locked. Yet.

Who is Elvis Grotto?

That's why I said *before* the lock,

Lets all do a cyberprotest, complete with cyberpot and a cyberpicket line.

Lets all do a cyberprotest, complete with cyberpot and a cyberpicket line.

*Singing*
"We shall overcome, we shall overcome,
We shall overcome some day
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe we shall overcome some day

We shall all be free, we shall all be free,
We shall all be free some day
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe we shall overcome some day

We shall live in peace, we shall live in peace,
We shall live in peace some day
Oh, deep in my heart, I do believe we shall overcome some day"

Down With Mod Tyranny!

I'm with you, Drunk Commies! If only because you're in trouble with the mods! We must outlaw mods! :mad:

(Of course this is only a :headbang: post which will get me an official warning for "spamming" or "flaming" or something. But if it does it will prove me right. So HA! :P)

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Down With Mod Tyranny!

I'm with you, Drunk Commies! If only because you're in trouble with the mods! We must outlaw mods! :mad:

(Of course this is only a :headbang: post which will get me an official warning for "spamming" or "flaming" or something. But if it does it will prove me right. So HA! :P)


Seconded.

Seconded.


We need to be able to impeach mods. Also, perhaps we should elect our own mods.

We need to be able to impeach mods. Also, perhaps we should elect our own mods.

I don't think that will get you any longevity points for your nation state.

It would be a great shame to see such an amusing and talented debater leave these forums. Therefore, you have my full support, DC - good luck!

We need to be able to impeach mods. Also, perhaps we should elect our own mods.No! That would make it a democracy! And democracy leads to anarchy! And anarchy is the greatest evil! :rolleyes: --cut from a speech by Elbridge Gerry of Mass. when he refused to sign the US Constitution, minus the smilie

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

And HerPower :(
Awww....I knew you loved me...urgh...her...

BUmps in outrage at the mods.

Dumbest thread ever.