Mod review
Whittier--
29-05-2005, 22:48
If I wanted a mod to review a comment before I posted where would I ask?
The best thing to do would be to take it into #themodcave on esper.net since that'll give you the quickest reply but the Getting Help Page would work ok too. You might be able to telegram it to a moderator as well, but only if you get an ok beforehand.
Seriously though, if you need a post reviewed before its even posted, it's probably not ok...
Whittier--
30-05-2005, 00:09
The best thing to do would be to take it into #themodcave on esper.net since that'll give you the quickest reply but the Getting Help Page would work ok too. You might be able to telegram it to a moderator as well, but only if you get an ok beforehand.
Seriously though, if you need a post reviewed before its even posted, it's probably not ok...
Its nothing bad, I just want to make sure it can't be construed as being offensive to a particular person.
How does esper work?
Frisbeeteria
30-05-2005, 00:16
Whittier--, this is not a service we want to start. We're not going to review all your posts for you ahead of time. Other people manage to post hundreds and thousands of posts and stay within the rules. You need to learn to do the same.
There is a link to the rules in my signature. Read it. Pay special attention to the sections on flaming and trolling, as those seem to give you the most trouble.
~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Forum Moderator
The One-Stop Rules Shop
Whittier--
30-05-2005, 00:39
Fris, I am not asking for review of every post and this is the first time I've requested this. I am only asking for one.
Its nothing bad, I just want to make sure it can't be construed as being offensive to a particular person.
How does esper work?One suggestion is to put yourself in that person's shoes. if you think there is a chance that he/she would be offended then re word it... or place a disclaimer in the post ('not to be offensive', 'don't take this the wrong way'... or even a 'not trolling/flaming but asking for honest...')
One bad sign is if it's directed to one person. if it must be to one person, then TG, not post.
Euroslavia
30-05-2005, 00:42
Fris, I am not asking for review of every post and this is the first time I've requested this. I am only asking for one.
It's really common sense now, Whittier. If you are hesitant about posting something, then its best not to post it at all. If it can, in any way, offend someone else (or break the rules stated in The One Stop Rules Shop), then don't post it. It really isn't that hard.
One suggestion is to put yourself in that person's shoes. if you think there is a chance that he/she would be offended then re word it... or place a disclaimer in the post ('not to be offensive', 'don't take this the wrong way'... or even a 'not trolling/flaming but asking for honest...')
Despite having a disclaimer, a flame is a flame, and a troll will still be a troll. Saying something like, "All gays are going to rot and burn in hell" will still be breaking the rules, even if you have a "not to be offensive' disclaimer. It still offends people. All Whittier needs to do is read his posts before he actually posts them, after re-reading the rules, and use common sense to determine if its within the rules.
One bad sign is if it's directed to one person. if it must be to one person, then TG, not post.
As for telegrams, those too can still be flames, despite the fact that they are private. Criticizing someone in such a way that Whittier has done before is still a flame in the forums or in telegrams. Each are held to the same standards.
Tuesday Heights
30-05-2005, 01:01
Fris, I am not asking for review of every post and this is the first time I've requested this. I am only asking for one.
Yes, but then other people will think they can ask, too, just once... and what if everybody asks? D'you really think the mods have the time to go around giving the thumbs up to people who should be able to judge for themselves whether or not what they post is acceptable?
Despite having a disclaimer, a flame is a flame, and a troll will still be a troll. Saying something like, "All gays are going to rot and burn in hell" will still be breaking the rules, even if you have a "not to be offensive' disclaimer. It still offends people. All Whittier needs to do is read his posts before he actually posts them, after re-reading the rules, and use common sense to determine if its within the rules.yeah, but "All Gays are going to Rot and Burn in Hell" is kinda hard to take anyway else but a flame/Troll. I'm talking about things that could be taken either way. to avoid Misunderstandings.
As for telegrams, those too can still be flames, despite the fact that they are private. Criticizing someone in such a way that Whittier has done before is still a flame in the forums or in telegrams. Each are held to the same standards.true, but then it's keeping it between two people and not involving anyone else. if the person finds it offensive, they could report it, or just ignore/delete the TG. and it's just between the two people.
Tuesday Heights
30-05-2005, 01:26
true, but then it's keeping it between two people and not involving anyone else. if the person finds it offensive, they could report it, or just ignore/delete the TG. and it's just between the two people.
This may be true, but it's still against the rules.
Whittier--
30-05-2005, 01:39
All I did was ask a simple question. I got my answer. And since you all ruined the mood, I ain't going to post the post.
And Euro, it was nothing like what you was saying.
Tuesday, I put the text of what I was going to say on my forum.
But nevermind, since Mr. Fass gets offended every time I say hello. And since everyone assuming I'm going to flame him, I don't think I will post.
This may be true, but it's still against the rules.
Granted... but the point was, he (Whittier--) wasn't sure if it was offensive. thus if it was and the rule broken (and the wrath of mod called down) it would still be between the two of em. if not, well, it (as Whitter-- described) was directed to one person so again TG is appropriate.
There are things reported here that I woudn't find offensive but others do. we can all walk the PC language, but someone will be offended. at least this way, It will minimize the Trolling/flaming as much as possible.
Frisbeeteria
30-05-2005, 01:57
But nevermind, since Mr. Fass gets offended every time I say hello. And since everyone assuming I'm going to flame him, I don't think I will post.
Y'know, by most interpretations, this is also a flame. If you keep up with this apparent vendetta against Fass, your next lost nation will be your last.
Given that you've lost at least one nation due to interactions with the same poster, perhaps you should use the Jolt Ignore function to completely ignore him. I'd also put an ignore on his telegrams. Since you can't seem to summon the self-control to stick within the rules of this game, you'd better trust the automatic machinery to keep you apart.
But nevermind, since Mr. Fass gets offended every time I say hello. And since everyone assuming I'm going to flame him, I don't think I will post.
Y'know, by most interpretations, this is also a flame. Really? that would constitute a flame?
wow... I would've chalked that up to poor observation or bad past experience...
That's nice to know.
Frisbeeteria
30-05-2005, 02:13
Attacking the personality of someone who isn't even participating in the thread? Yeah. That's flaming.
Whittier--
30-05-2005, 02:19
I was not aware of that. Nor was I aware that would be considered a personality attack. I didn't mean it as such.
Thanks for the information.
And I put him on ignore, is there any way to prevent him from responding to my threads or posts?
And I put him on ignore, is there any way to prevent him from responding to my threads or posts?
Not really... but at least you won't see them.