NationStates Jolt Archive


Suggestion for the forum

Jaghur
21-05-2005, 01:37
After observing the forums thoroughly, I came to the conclusion that there isn't a place where RPs that do not concern NationStates can be started. If it is at all possible, I suggest that there be a separate forum for any OOC roleplay (ex. Star Wars) so that NS players can, in a way, relax. I often find myself bored because the threads are becoming less and less original, and this would be an opportunity for NS playersto do something totally unique.

If such a forum already exists, please notify me. Thank you.
Wondsing Island
21-05-2005, 01:41
There are other pbp rpg's, you just need to look around. Google "star wars pbp rpg" and you'll come across a web ring full of star wars rpg's... Go in there.
Jaghur
21-05-2005, 01:45
There are other pbp rpg's, you just need to look around. Google "star wars pbp rpg" and you'll come across a web ring full of star wars rpg's... Go in there.

i'd like to do it here, though. i don't want to waste my time doing a Google search looking for the right RPG
Ziratos
21-05-2005, 01:46
You may forget this is a forum about nations, politics, culture, laws, freedom and etc. everything related to human science... ;)

I'm also a very big fan of Star Wars :D , but frankly, you should try to look for a forum answering to your needs (like www.starwars.com).

I'm taking Star Wars example as you've talked of it, but this is good for every other subjects, there is forum for anything, just take a lil' bit of time to look for it.

P.S.: I'm not a Moderator nor an admnistrator, it's simply my opinion, wich I think, is the opinion of thoses of possess this forum :confused:
Cogitation
21-05-2005, 01:48
I don't feel like issuing a judgment, so this post is entirely unofficial.

People have done space-based roleplays and roleplays based off of Tolkien. You could have a Star Wars themed nation and a Star Wars themed roleplay in "NationStates" and "International Incidents".

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia
Wondsing Island
21-05-2005, 01:49
i'd like to do it here, though. i don't want to waste my time doing a Google search looking for the right RPG

Then make a thread and do it here...
Jaghur
21-05-2005, 01:57
I don't feel like issuing a judgment, so this post is entirely unofficial.

People have done space-based roleplays and roleplays based off of Tolkien. You could have a Star Wars themed nation and a Star Wars themed roleplay in "NationStates" and "International Incidents".

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia

Thank you for your help. This thread may be deleted.
Bob-Bob
21-05-2005, 11:51
Me, Coreworlds and many other nations have been devoted to Star Wars for many a month now. Our nations are completely based on the Lucas’s work, what we need is a Future Tech forum, International Incidents is crawling with both future tech and modern tech, its very hard to sift through it all, but if you want some info Jaghur just do a search on Unified Sith and Coreworlds and you will find most of the Star Wars RP’s for naitonstates.
Tsaraine
21-05-2005, 13:11
Dividing forums based upon a roleplay concept ("future-tech") is highly unlikely to happen. If it did, we'd have to shift threads from one to the other based upon the rolepay in them. That would create barriers to free-form roleplay, and generally be a bad idea.

Besides, where do you draw the line between "modern tech" and "future tech"? How do you interpret it? It's not something that we need or want to do - if mods had to spend all their time deciding what was "modern tech", what was "future tech", and what was "banging-rocks-together-tech", it would waste time better spent adressing legitimate concerns such as spamming, flaming, trolling, et cetera.

In short; we're not here to police roleplay (beyond the basic rules laid out in the TOS). What you suggest would be doing that.

~ Tsar the Mod.
Bob-Bob
21-05-2005, 14:25
My suggestion was not for moderators to police roleplay, it was merely a good suggestion that many people feel would be a good course of action. Having to move threads between a Future Tech forum and say international incidents would be very rare indeed, considering those not interested in future tech would not post in the Future Tech forum.

Future and Modern Tech are heavily classified with set parameters. Modern Tech is just what it says modern with anything we have today viable for a roleplay, this can also extend up to twenty years into the future but no further than that.

Future Tech however is more vague but still with set parameters. We classify anything to be future tech that involves energy weapons or just about anything to do with space and space ships, it really is that simple.

The player base of Future Tech has seriously expanded with almost half the threads on International Incidents now becoming devoted to this particular brand of Rping. We have International Incidents for the modern era players why can’t we have an Interstellar Incidents section?

EDIT I would like to add that we already have divided forums on roleplay concept. Nationstates and International Incidents. Nationstates is for In character roleplaying and International Incidents is for National Roleplaying, what is the difference between those and a Future based Roleplay?
E-Xtremia
21-05-2005, 16:30
*SNIP*
Future and Modern Tech are heavily classified with set parameters. Modern Tech is just what it says modern with anything we have today viable for a roleplay, this can also extend up to twenty years into the future but no further than that.

Future Tech however is more vague but still with set parameters. We classify anything to be future tech that involves energy weapons or just about anything to do with space and space ships, it really is that simple.
*/SNIP*

And those shades of gray are why the mods dont want to deal with it...

Nano-technology is considered by many to be 'future-tech' when in fact, there has been extensive work in the field, and the US military hopes to actively deploy it by 2015 (and by your definition would be 'modern-tech')

Another great example is the beam/laser weapons you mentioned to be 'future-tech.' Speaking as a member of the science field (with friends in the R&D department of this industry) laser-projectile weapons are maybe 5 years down the road, IF THAT! So that too would be 'modern-tech.'

The system we have now should be fine, just make the title of the first post of any RP to have 'Modern' (meaning current tech or old tech only), 'Post-Modern' (IE, like what you mentioned to be your 'modern definition,' or like when you read Mr. Barry's books) and 'Future' (anything after 'post-modern').

The first post then can start off with an OOC declaration (sp?) that states specific rules for the 'Post-Modern' and 'Future' cases saying exactly what is and is-not crickett. But the present system of RP's being policed by the participants seems to work well, and "if it isn't broke, why fix it?"

*NOTE* Ish not a mod. If he was, there'd be no more antacids in the house. */NOTE*
GMC Military Arms
22-05-2005, 10:27
Future and Modern Tech are heavily classified with set parameters. Modern Tech is just what it says modern with anything we have today viable for a roleplay, this can also extend up to twenty years into the future but no further than that.

Is an ETC gun future or modern? How about a Superdreadnought? A killer attack satellite? Unless you can see into the future, how do you know what'll happen in twenty years when someone could harness ZPE tommorrow morning and invent an anti-gravity system after lunch?

Doesn't work, does it?

Future Tech however is more vague but still with set parameters. We classify anything to be future tech that involves energy weapons

All weapons are energy weapons. Are you saying a wooden club is futuretech because it's a kinetic energy weapon?

or just about anything to do with space and space ships, it really is that simple.

Like the re-usable spacecraft we have in real life? Yes, let's call all technical development since Sputnik futuretech and shovel it into a new forum so you can ignore it easier! Because heaven help that anyone should ever find themself at a technical disadvantage in roleplay, that never happens in real life.

We have International Incidents for the modern era players why can’t we have an Interstellar Incidents section?

Because it's NOT for the modern-tech players, that's why. If you can't play with the other kids, we're not going to section them off for your sake. MT and FT have managed to coexist in the same forum for over two years, they can continue to do so.

Executive summary: Not going to happen. Go back to your homes.
Sirens of Titan
22-05-2005, 11:01
Taken directly from The Rejected Idea's List, entry #22 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8843828&postcount=2)

Adding new forum categories
Storefront forum: no;
Future tech forum: no;
Fantasy tech forum: no;
RP school forum: no;
Serious debate/discussion forum: no;
Semi-spam off topic forum: no.
Bob-Bob
22-05-2005, 13:18
First of all let me begin by saying this has been one of the most arrogant and rude posts ever given to me by a moderator. Second of all I will reply to what I see as a pedantic interpretation of what I have previously said.

Is an ETC gun future or modern? How about a Superdreadnought? A killer attack satellite? Unless you can see into the future, how do you know what'll happen in twenty years when someone could harness ZPE tommorrow morning and invent an anti-gravity system after lunch?

ETC gun is future, a superdreadnought would be future tech and a killer attack satellite would be modern tech providing it only used nuclear warheads. If someone harnessed ZPE tomorrow I highly doubt it would be in mass production and fully available in twenty years, seriously think about it, its takes ten for a simple tank to get designed and to the finished prototype level. No, what we have today is what we’re going to have in twenty years time, or at least the players perception of it. You can go into Post Modern, but at a push, when you get to ZPE that just become Future Tech, why? Because it then pushes your entire nation into Future Tech from the subsequent developments. Definitions of Future and Modern tech are well known to the players of the game, and if you are not smart enough to perceive them, I would say your out of touch with the players and should reconsider your position as a game moderator.

All weapons are energy weapons. Are you saying a wooden club is futuretech because it's a kinetic energy weapon?
Please, another childish nit-pik. Energy weapons, now what really comes into your mind when people say that? Big blue ray guns, or kinetic weapons? The Big blue ray guns of course which is Future Tech.

Like the re-usable spacecraft we have in real life? Yes, let's call all technical development since Sputnik futuretech and shovel it into a new forum so you can ignore it easier! Because heaven help that anyone should ever find themself at a technical disadvantage in roleplay, that never happens in real life.
Please another childish and sarcastic comment meant to embarrass me instead of politely telling me your reasons. Once again are you sure you should be a game moderator, as I’m not. But to reply to your post. Grow up, seriously, when someone says space ships what do they mean, if I said space shuttle well then I would have been referring to the ones currently destined for orbit of the Earth. But when I sat space ships I mean interstellar and Inter-solar vessels capable of waging war. I’ve yet to see the space shuttle get a gun so no I think we can safely say that Sputnik and NASA are still in modern tech.

Because it's NOT for the modern-tech players, that's why. If you can't play with the other kids, we're not going to section them off for your sake. MT and FT have managed to coexist in the same forum for over two years, they can continue to do so.

I seriously believe you are out of date with the player base, there are a growing amount of Future Tech players, a lot more than there used to be, and this is why my opinion is not alone, why, that would be arrogant of me if it were. No, many people in this game feel there should be a separate Future Tech forum if only for an easier user interface. So no its not just for me its for a proportion of this games players, which you have volunteered to help and assist. So far your reasons against it have been from your perspective and have yet to provide any sound argument against it, apart from “NOPE, WON’T HAPPEN” but why not? “NOPE JUST WON’T CAUSE I SAY SO” not very moderator like of you is it?


Executive summary: Not going to happen. Go back to your homes.

Last time I checked you were in no position to make an executive summary for this game, last time I checked you weren’t admin so being pedantic as you are change your post so it fits your status in the command chain.
The Most Glorious Hack
22-05-2005, 13:24
Not. Gonna. Happen.
GMC Military Arms
22-05-2005, 13:26
Last time I checked you were in no position to make an executive summary for this game, last time I checked you weren’t admin so being pedantic as you are change your post so it fits your status in the command chain.

No. Now go away.