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Hey moddy's, just wondering if you could split this thread, leave the title post and keep it open, split the rest off and do whatever you want with it:p
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404403&page=1&pp=15

I just locked it outright. You can repost it as a new topic.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Cog, with all due respect, I feel this decision was unfair. If I hadn't brought it to your attention, you wouldn't have taken any action.
I've noticed quite often with Erastide's threads (player pics and profiles) that every so often a mod comes and splits it. They don't lock it and ask her to post the update on a new topic, why therefore do I need to? I'd rather keep it open with the off-topic posts than have to post a new topic each time. In all fairness, the thread wasn't even close to 1300 posts, and was no more spam than many other threads in NS General. If therefore you could please unlock it and we can pretend I never reported it in the first place.

The difference is that Erastide's threads are a multi-post, cross-indexed thread with embedded links, while yours is a simple cut-and-paste text-only thread. You may have to do as much work as she does assembling it, but the actual thread is pretty easy to deal with. Thread splits take a bit of work, so Cog probably went with the obvious and simple. As the only disincentive I can see is that you might have to change a link in your sig, it strikes me as a no-brainer.

I had a spare moment this morning, so I split the thread, cross-linked the split, hard-deleted some posts that were soft deleted by players so you wouldn't have a string of -deleted- as your first entry, reopened the old thread, and typed up this post. Took 5-10 minutes. You reposting and changing a link in your sig might have taken 2 minutes. Which is easier?

Well ok, so can we go back twenty four hours, pretend I never reported it, and open up the thread again, with all the posts still in there? In all fairness the thread in itself isn't breaking any rules, only because I requested a split that it got any mod attention. So could it please be unlocked and I'll proceed as before?

Cog, with all due respect, I feel this decision was unfair.I'll address this later in my post.
If I hadn't brought it to your attention, you wouldn't have taken any action.Actually, I took notice of the thread in "General" and decided to glance at the most recent posts in the topic before I noticed this thread here in "Moderation".
I've noticed quite often with Erastide's threads (player pics and profiles) that every so often a mod comes and splits it. They don't lock it and ask her to post the update on a new topic, why therefore do I need to?First, I'm not the one normally dealing with Erastide's threads, so I don't know the standard operating procedure.

Second, I believe Erastides threads are stickied or linked to from a sticky. Yours is not... at least, it isn't right now. Maybe it was stickied or linked to from a sticky in the past? Anyway, to lock-and-repost one of Erastide's threads would require a destiky-sticky operation or changing a link in a sticky topic. This isn't an issue in your case.

Third, it sounded to me like you asked for a Mod to split out and delete or lock all other posts, leaving only your first opening post behind. As the first post consisted only of text (and one smiley), I thought that a copy-paste-repost operation would be very simple.

Fourth, I didn't see this as being a big deal. Split, lock-and-repost, same effect, right? At least, the same effect as far as I could see. I meant no disrespect towards you or the work you've put into this and I don't see how this inconveniences you, so I'm really quite taken aback and rather confused that you're making a big deal out of this.
I'd rather keep it open with the off-topic posts than have to post a new topic each time.Given that you can save your work to a word processing file and copy-and-paste material back-and-forth, I'm still not seeing what the difference is between split and lock-and-repost. I also don't see why it's an unfair decision; I did grant you permission to repost the topic.

Actually, now that I think about it, splitting out all other posts leaves only the original post in the thread. The thread then gets sorted according to the date of the original post (dated back in March), so this causes the thread to fall to page 10 or 20 of the "General" board. Thus, someone would have to bump it, anyway, to get attention. Making a new thread avoids this, as the timestamp on the opening post of the new thread would be very recent. The only other way for it go get attention is if you put a link to it in your automatic forum signature.
In all fairness, the thread wasn't even close to 1300 posts, and was no more spam than many other threads in NS General. If therefore you could please unlock it and we can pretend I never reported it in the first place.The off-topic posts would have been locked, anyway (you did say "split the rest off and do whatever you want with it :p"). So, the fact that there were only about 400 posts and not 1300 wasn't a consideration.
Well ok, so can we go back twenty four hours, pretend I never reported it, and open up the thread again, with all the posts still in there? In all fairness the thread in itself isn't breaking any rules, only because I requested a split that it got any mod attention. So could it please be unlocked and I'll proceed as before?I'm confused. The current state of affairs is this: Frisbeeteria has unocked the topic and split out all other posts. So, you have the original topic with only your post in it (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404403) and open to more replies. Now, it sounds to me like the current state of the thread is what you originally asked for, anyway, so is this okay as-is? ...or is there something else that needs to be done?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Didn't notice that, when was that done? Ah well thanks Fris!

(to address one of your points)
"Given that you can save your work to a word processing file and copy-and-paste material back-and-forth, I'm still not seeing what the difference is between split and lock-and-repost. I also don't see why it's an unfair decision; I did grant you permission to repost the topic."

Unfortunately, some sort of virus hit my computer, and I now don't have enough space left to so much as save a word document. Various programs (mainly anti-spyware/anti-virus) have buggered up. This is majorly annoying, as I now can't save my RPs, I need to enlist outside help (Tinks in this case) to help with the list, not to mention school projects that I now can't do at home.

Unfortunately, some sort of virus hit my computer, and I now don't have enough space left to so much as save a word document. Various programs (mainly anti-spyware/anti-virus) have buggered up. This is majorly annoying, as I now can't save my RPs, I need to enlist outside help (Tinks in this case) to help with the list, not to mention school projects that I now can't do at home.Ahhh! I see! Well, that's a horse of a different color. If I'd known that this was part of the problem and was making a difference in the matter, I'd have gladly split the topic for you. Just saying that the decision is unfair makes little sense, but if a virus is causing problems, then that's a little more understandable. :) Just keep in mind that I don't want to accomodate your virus forever. :p

Good Luck getting your computer cleaned.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation