NationStates Jolt Archive


I'd Appreciate an Appeal

Deleteyourselves
08-05-2005, 18:03
Hello, kind, fair, objective moderators, well-known throughout the land for your impartial judgement and benevolence. I humbly bow lowly before your mighty presence, in request that you appeal the deletion of "limbaughsmokescrack", as well as the thread that went along with it. I graciously throw myself at your feet, and ask, without a thread of dignity, for mercy.

*grovels*

http://www.saintpeterinchains.org.uk/images/crl-prostrate.jpg
E-Xtremia
08-05-2005, 18:05
I am going to guess that the nation was deleted for the name (borderline libelous I'd belive) and that it prolly wont be resurected...

I'll find a quote from the sticky soon...

Edit, found it!
Offensive National Name: Using offensive language in a nation's name. Nation names are held to a higher standard than any other custom fields. Because nation names cannot be changed, this offense results in immediate deletion.
Somehow, I dont think saying that Rush Limbaugh smokes crack can be anything but offensive, even if only to Mr. Limbaugh himself... though I think this is probably more a libel issue...

*NOTE* Ish not a mod. If he was, there'd be no more antacids in the house. */NOTE*
Deleteyourselves
08-05-2005, 18:10
I am going to guess that the nation was deleted for the name (borderline libelous I'd belive) and that it prolly wont be resurected...

I'll find a quote from the sticky soon...

*NOTE* Ish not a mod. If he was, there'd be no more antacids in the house. */NOTE*
Borderline libelous?

Oh, wait, you're right. I really think Rush Limbaugh really would sue a forum hosted in Britain, because one user has an insulting username involving his name.

Right.

Well, from now on, I'll be sure not to say, "Bush is a moron", nor will I say, "Tom DeLay is a street thug."

Can't be too careful with libel, you know!
Cotland
08-05-2005, 18:11
Well, you never know. Stranger things have been known to happen....
Tuesday Heights
08-05-2005, 18:12
From here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023):

Appeals: If you disagree with a moderation ruling, you may sometimes request additional moderator input. Bear in mind that many cases are discussed by multiple moderators before a ruling is handed down. Moderators will generally hold back on responding to any follow-up queries until the original moderator has a chance to explain the decision. Failing successful resolution, additional appeals may be made to the site admins, first to salusa@nationstates.net, and finally to admin@nationstates.net. Admin decisions are final. Do not email Max Barry, he'll just refer you back to [violet] or Salusa.

However, nations deleted for rule violations are not typically restored.
Deleteyourselves
08-05-2005, 18:12
Do you think the nation would've been deleted if it had said, "Limbaughdiddrugs"?

Because, technically-speaking, that's not libelous. It's fact.
E-Xtremia
08-05-2005, 18:13
As the quote from the sticky said... nation names are held to a higher regaurd than posts...

Posts can be discussed, debated, etc... nation names/flags cannot

*NOTE* Ish not a mod. If he was, there'd be no more antacids in the house. */NOTE*
Deleteyourselves
08-05-2005, 18:14
Okay, so I can say Limbaugh smokes crack, but I just can't have a name that says that?
Crazy girl
08-05-2005, 18:18
well, none of these guys are mods, so they can't say for sure why you got deleted.

i'd suggest you do what tuesday said, and email admin.
Haken Rider
08-05-2005, 18:24
The answer lays in the fatc that mods smoke crack. ;)
Katganistan
08-05-2005, 20:00
well, none of these guys are mods, so they can't say for sure why you got deleted.
Correct.

Thanks for all the speculation, people, but no.

Limbaughsmokescrack was deleted for linking an obscene flash movie with the delightful title F**k the FCC which included such lovely images as a bowlful of penes.

The deletion stands. Your sarcasm and poor judgment are noted.
Saint Uriel
09-05-2005, 03:17
And I missed that link?! Crud...
Katganistan
09-05-2005, 04:36
If thou honestly needest see it before thou diest, goest thou unto thine favorite search engine and typest in the title of the movie.
Saint Uriel
09-05-2005, 15:30
I shall, I shall! How can my life be complete if I have not witnessed a bowful of penes? My thanks and blessings to you!
Heycutitout
09-05-2005, 18:16
I apologize, Katganistan. I should've known that a bowl full of penes would frighten, confuse, anger, and offend people. However, I repeatedly said that it was vulgar, both in the thread and in the flash itself. It WASN'T as if I'd said, "Hey! Barney the Dinosaur has a new website! CLICK HERE!"

For that reason, I fail to see why outright deleting my account was so necessary, or why this previous account's deletion was necessary as well. Unless, of course, you have a monthly quota for deleting accounts, because NationStates wants to reach "2 million users."

So, anyway, I would appreciate an appeal, for both. Thanks!

Assholes. Suck my dick.
Heycutitout
09-05-2005, 18:29
Oh, and Katganistan, you can't find it in a search engine. Because I made it.

Is that why you'd deleted me? Because you thought it was just simply vulgar spam? No. I made it.

So yes, upon seeing that Katganistan was clearly mistaken, I'd like to speak to another moderator, for an appeal. I was very deepy hurt, to just be deleted like that.

You fucking moron.
Dread Lady Nathicana
09-05-2005, 18:45
Cut the martyr bit just because your creation was deemed inapropriate - it just doesn't fly. As has been repeatedly demonstrated, it doesn't matter who you are or what your intent may or may not have been, or if you 'warned' people or not:

There are some things that are simply not permissible on this site. You cross the line, you get spanked for it.

Sometimes it's a warning, sometimes it's a deletion. I fail to see how trying to appeal with 'boo hoo I'm hurt' will change anything, having seen this and other methods of 'getting one's whine on' repeatedly over the years failing just as miserably as your attempt most likely will. Especially with the smartass 'deating for quotas' comment. Not the brightest tool in the shed, one might surmise ...

Good luck on the appeal, all the same. From past examples given here in Moderation, usually such deletions have already had more than one moderator look at it and agree on the call beforehand, so I wouldn't hold your breath or anything. Unless you like turning funny colors of blue in addition to seeming foolish with your arguments. ;)
Cotland
09-05-2005, 19:01
I agree with Dread Lady Nathicana. Good luck when those are the arguments you come with. If you break the rules set by the owners of the site, you get punished. Simple as that.

You fucking moron.

Emphasis his. I doubt that calling a mod a moron is going to help your case...

My $0.02 in this matter.
Princess Amidala
09-05-2005, 19:06
It sux when you spent weeks to create your own site, just to find out that your site is inapropriate to advertise on other sites :p

I am not laughing ;)
Greenmanbry
09-05-2005, 19:25
Flaming a mod, twice, in consecutive posts, in moderation.

How wonderful.

I'm sure they'll restore your nation immediately, now that you have presented a most compelling case.
Goobergunchia
09-05-2005, 20:33
This entry has been added to the Great List of Ex-Nations.

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Katganistan
09-05-2005, 22:18
My dearest Heycutitout:

Lest you forget, I am but a humble forum mod. DEATing you requires a higher authority than I.

Your antics are no longer welcome on this board. Appeal to Salusa@nationstates.net if you must.
Katganistan
10-05-2005, 01:19
I apologize, Katganistan. I should've known that a bowl full of penes would frighten, confuse, anger, and offend people. However, I repeatedly said that it was vulgar, both in the thread and in the flash itself. It WASN'T as if I'd said, "Hey! Barney the Dinosaur has a new website! CLICK HERE!"

For that reason, I fail to see why outright deleting my account was so necessary, or why this previous account's deletion was necessary as well. Unless, of course, you have a monthly quota for deleting accounts, because NationStates wants to reach "2 million users."

So, anyway, I would appreciate an appeal, for both. Thanks!

[color=white]Assholes. Suck my dick.[/color

Actually, to be crystal clear about it, the deletions were because the poster is DEAT (and in light of these most current antics will more than likely remain so). Clearly he knew that linking to any obscene movie or site was illegal as it has been broadcast time and again, and it was done with an eye toward being childishly annoying.

Charming, isn't he?