NationStates Jolt Archive

I've decided to post this here to check the legality of this action by a player:

Apparently the nation of "-----------" has been passed on to another owner. The owner of the nation "--------------" now has access to and is openly operating "---------------".

The Nation of "-------------" is a UN nation and so it "----------------". If an owner of a UN nation takes control of and operates a UN nation created by another and keeps UN membership for both nations, is that not UN Doubling?

It should be easy for you to verify this even if they drop UN membership of one nation.

Regards,

I'm not sure, but I believe things like this are supposed to be reported on the Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/94893/page=help).

Yes. Policy from what I've seen is to report suspected U.N. Multis to the Getting Help Page.

Since you or I can never know for sure, it stops you or I from getting into trouble for " slander " if you're wrong ... Of course, it also prevents the besmirching of the suspect Nation/s reputation if you're wrong, which is equally important.

Also it helps not to risk giving any potential rule-breaker any kind of heads up, too.

Things like this should be reported through the Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help)
Please do not make multi applications in the forums as there is no way for you to know if it is true
You don't need to report this both the forums AND email.
I find it suspicious that you send me an email at 8:58am (my time) containing the following text (emphasis mine):
I didn't want to post this in the Jolt forum to tip off the possible offenders.

Apparently the nation of "----------" has been passed on to another owner. The owner of the nation "-------------" now has access to and is openly operating "----------".

The Nation of "----------" is a UN nation and so it "-----------------". If an owner of a UN nation takes control of and operates a UN nation created by another and keeps UN membership for both nations, is that not UN Doubling?

It should be easy for you to verify this.
And then posted your accusation on the forums at 9:02. I think that an explanation should be forthcoming for this before I start suspecting that you are trying to besmirch the nation.

take it from some one that has been there and done that. do not let one one with aonther
U.N. nation ever use your computer. me and my brother both play N.S. and we both were U.N. nations, now policy states
( and if I am wrong please corect me.) that no player shall have more then One U.N. nation. And the moderators have the power to see IP's. and If you have two U.N. nations that are controled by two different people on the same computer it will give the impression that one person own a U.N. multi.

Things like this should be reported through the Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help)
Please do not make multi applications in the forums as there is no way for you to know if it is true
You don't need to report this both the forums AND email.
I find it suspicious that you send me an email at 8:58am (my time) containing the following text (emphasis mine):

And then posted your accusation on the forums at 9:02. I think that an explanation should be forthcoming for this before I start suspecting that you are trying to besmirch the nation.


All I ask is that you check to see who is loggin into both those nations and to see if users of other UN nations are logging into this nation. Also check to see if a proxy server is being used to accomplish this alleged violation of rules.

I don't expect the Mods to take the words of a nation's owner on a non-jolt forum when they admit that this is exactly what has occured.

My nations has been besmirched numerous times by numerous other nations, and I haven't complained. At this point, when I see evidence of rule violation, I am now going to be leary of calling it to anyone's attention when it results in such a response. It's like calling the police to report a crime when one has reasonable belief that a crime has been committed and then being treated as a criminal for reporting what reasonably seems to be a crime, except in this case, it's a rule violation.

So, the next time I have reasonable cause to believe that a rule is being violated, I shall not say anything at all out of fear of being treated like I've done something wrong for reporting that reasonable belief. That way, everyone will be happy including an alleged violator ro rules.

and i already had a headache..

res, it has been policy for a long time not to post names of those you think are multis in the open, because only mods can know for 100% if they are or are not multis. cases like this are usually handled throuhg the getting help page or through irc, #themodcave

sal, hope you don't mind me sending you a temegram, i don't really feel safesending this through the getting help page, never know who will get it there..

so, telegram in 5, 10 if theserver acts up..

Understood. Salusa, please forgive me for posting the alleged offender's name. It was an accident of ignorance of the proper proceedures. My bad.

Res, understood and forgiven.

CG, email would probably work better.