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[Moderator Edit - Cogitation] These posts were split from this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413932) thread. [/modedit]

You are the witch-burner who wont answer simple questions.

There are really only two questions, and you wont answer one.

I will never get my answer to the other one, not to my satisfaction. It simply isnt possible.

New Granada, I usually make an attempt to simply ignore your posts, but since this is a thread about me specifically and not just a topic I like I feel I must respond.

I don't like you. I really don't. I find you to be a racist and a bigot who plays dumb about both. You repeatedly post the same 'revelations' about religions and ask the same offensive questions that have already been answered. I would place you on my ignore list, which makes your posts just not appear on my screen, but then I might miss the crucial rule infraction that I could report to the Mods to get you deleted. I ask you now, please don't post in this thread again and don't post in any further threads of mine.

This post is probably Flame and I will likely get a warning from the Mods about this; Flame isn't tolerated even in responce to Flame and Flame baiting and I fully support that ruling. I take my warning with a grin and a shrug of my shoulders, it will be worth it. I've wanted to say this for a while, and am glad that I have.

New Granada, I usually make an attempt to simply ignore your posts, but since this is a thread about me specifically and not just a topic I like I feel I must respond.

I don't like you. I really don't. I find you to be a racist and a bigot who plays dumb about both. You repeatedly post the same 'revelations' about religions and ask the same offensive questions that have already been answered. I would place you on my ignore list, which makes your posts just not appear on my screen, but then I might miss the crucial rule infraction that I could report to the Mods to get you deleted. I ask you now, please don't post in this thread again and don't post in any further threads of mine.

This post is probably Flame and I will likely get a warning from the Mods about this; Flame isn't tolerated even in responce to Flame and Flame baiting and I fully support that ruling. I take my warning with a grin and a shrug of my shoulders, it will be worth it. I've wanted to say this for a while, and am glad that I have.


Christ Almighty!

Like I said, witch hunting.

I asked what you thought of the merchant of venice and you didnt answer.

If you'd like to dig up the thread, there was perfectly due cause for the question &c. Be my honored guest.

My other question, the vastly more important one, to which I will never recieve a satisfactory answer is:
"Pourquoi est le pape un catholique."

Pape est mort, &c, i'm sure you understand.

You ought honestly to calm down.

I split this off from the topic in "General" to keep it from being derailed.

Okay, now what is this about? If somebody has a complaint, I want links to incidents. Otherwise, I want it to stop.
My other question, the vastly more important one, to which I will never recieve a satisfactory answer is:
"Pourquoi est le pape un catholique."

Pape est mort, &c, i'm sure you understand.Translation. In English.

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I will also note that Klonor is not required to respond to your questions. Your continuing to press the matter could be construed as harassment and would fall under the "malicious" clause.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
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che molto interessare [how very interesting]

is this some sort of self-reported rule violation on klonor's part?

non capisco [I dont understand]

EDIT: Started the posting process before cog had posted his explanation for the thread split

I split this off from the topic in "General" to keep it from being derailed.

Okay, now what is this about? If somebody has a complaint, I want links to incidents. Otherwise, I want it to stop.
Translation. In English.

...

I will also note that Klonor is not required to respond to your questions. Your continuing to press the matter could be construed as harassment and would fall under the "malicious" clause.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Appologies, i'd hit up my italian resources before you posted.

"why is the pope catholic" would be the first

second "[the] pope is dead"

He asked 'which klonor do you know' and my experience with klonor has consisted entirely of thinly veiled insults and slurs on my character.

well, that and pompous demands like "dont post in my thread"

this is a prime example.


klonor may dislike me for whatever he fancies i've done, I dont dislike him though, i just dislike the hair-trigger attack-dog mentality.

There might very well be, I've seen some weird attempts at cloning in my life....

Cog, thanks for taking the initiative and moving that thread. If you hadn't this probably would have ended in a flame war.


Another example.

Let it be noted for the record that i've not been involved in a flame war on the nationstates forums.

He asked 'which klonor do you know' and my experience with klonor has consisted entirely of thinly veiled insults and slurs on my character.
Then either file a complaint with links to examples or brush it off and move on. Do not bait other NationStates players.

I remind you that you have a past history. Another forum offense will result in a deletion. Given that, I very strongly recommend that you avoid interaction with Klonor. If another player does not like interacting with you, then your forcing interaction with them is construable as harassment and is warnable (or, in your case, deletable).

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

My insults have never been thinly veiled, they have always been quite blatant and obvious.

I haven't liked you for quite a while, since September 30 of '04 to be precise, and I have not always disliked and insulted you. You earned my ire with repeated offences, which actually earned you a forum ban, too.

Since then, I have simply taken it upon myself to not respond to your posts when I could avoid doing so. That is why I didn't answer your questions, I made a point of it since I simply do not like talking to you. I have only requested that you avoid my threads twice, and this is itself the second time since I couldn't just ignore a question about me in a thread about me and I felt that not asking you to leave would only end in me insulting more than I did.

New Granada, I'm not going to hide the fact that I don't like you. But, I do not go out of my way to make contact with and insult you, either. I leave you alone, it is you who make a point of posting in my threads. If you would simply ignore me as I ignore you we would not clash as we have.

EDIT: And my sentence about an impending Flamewar was directed at myself, in the past I have often escelated in my insults.

Then either file a complaint with links to examples or brush it off and move on. Do not bait other NationStates players.

I remind you that you have a past history. Another forum offense will result in a deletion. Given that, I very strongly recommend that you avoid interaction with Klonor. If another player does not like interacting with you, then your forcing interaction with them is construable as harassment and is warnable (or, in your case, deletable).

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator


In any event, I did not attempt to force any sort of issue, I gave an unimpassioned account of "the klonor I know" without flaming or flame-baiting.

I'm not exactly sure what Klonor's referring to in my 'racist bigotry' &c, but on the occaision I asked him what he thought of The Merchant of Venice, I was verbally assaulted and never recieved an answer.

If you're interested, i had 'why is the pope catholic' translated into french for me while a canadian and I were waiting for ice to be delivered to our hotel room in Madrid.

I have never recieved a suitable answer to *that* question either, and it has nothing in the world to do with Klonor, but it was a post about unanswered questions so I felt it necessary to include the allusion.

Also, I am a catholic, so I will take no criticism on that front for 'bigotry' &c.

My insults have never been thinly veiled, they have always been quite blatant and obvious.

I haven't liked you for quite a while, since September 30 of '04 to be precise, and I have not always disliked and insulted you. You earned my ire with repeated offences, which actually earned you a forum ban, too.

Since then, I have simply taken it upon myself to not respond to your posts when I could avoid doing so. That is why I didn't answer your questions, I made a point of it since I simply do not like talking to you. I have only requested that you avoid my threads twice, and this is itself the second time since I couldn't just ignore a question about me in a thread about me and I felt that not asking you to leave would only end in me insulting more than I did.

New Granada, I'm not going to hide the fact that I don't like you. But, I do not go out of my way to make contact with and insult you, either. I leave you alone, it is you who make a point of posting in my threads. If you would simply ignore me as I ignore you we would not clash as we have.

EDIT: And my sentence about an impending Flamewar was directed at myself, in the past I have often escelated in my insults.


Really klonor, i'd appreciate it if you'd go through and look up all the threads you've started since september of 04 (?) and then determine how many times i've posted in a thread you've started.

Do then express that as a proportion, the number of threads of youes in which i've posted over the number of threads you've started in such-and-such ammount of time.

I am interested in whether or not there is any truth to the allegation that I "make a point" of posting in your threads. It is a serious allegation.

Another example.That is not an actionable example. In my opinion, the chances for a flamewar were higher than normal; that's why I split it off.

Let it be noted for the record that i've not been involved in a flame war on the nationstates forums.As of todays date, the technical accuracy of this statement is so noted (to the best of my knowledge). However, this is a very misleading statement as you have been involved in numerous counts of trolling and trolling does have a considerable tendency to start flamewars. Your offenses are a matter of record (namely here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=361665) and here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7360821&postcount=15) being references).

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Unless I'm mistaken, you posting in any thread of mine (at all) is you making a point to post in my threads. I'm not saying you go out of your way to post in my threads, or that you even do it often, just that you do it.

In any event, I did not attempt to force any sort of issue, I gave an unimpassioned account of "the klonor I know" without flaming or flame-baiting.Klonor does not want to interact with you, yet you keep prompting her to answer your questions. This sounds like forcing the issue to me.

Really klonor, i'd appreciate it if you'd go through and look up all the threads you've started since september of 04 (?) and then determine how many times i've posted in a thread you've started.

Do then express that as a proportion, the number of threads of youes in which i've posted over the number of threads you've started in such-and-such ammount of time.

I am interested in whether or not there is any truth to the allegation that I "make a point" of posting in your threads. It is a serious allegation.
Proportion is irrelevant. Anybody can up their postcount and threadcount.

Klonor has explicitly stated that she does not want to interact with you. Any continued attempts by you to force interaction will be interpreted as harassment and, given your past history, met with deletion. Am I clear?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Unless I'm mistaken, you posting in any thread of mine (at all) is you making a point to post in my threads. I'm not saying you go out of your way to post in my threads, or that you even do it often, just that you do it.


Indeed mistaken then, "making a point of" implies exactly what it says, that I 'make a point' of posting in your threads, that i post in them with especial frequency because they are yours, that i have some special interest in posting in your threads &c.

This is simply not the case, as I predict a survey such as the one I proposed would demonstrate

Klonor does not want to interact with you, yet you keep prompting her to answer your questions. This sounds like forcing the issue to me.


Proportion is irrelevant. Anybody can up their postcount and threadcount.

Klonor has explicitly stated that she does not want to interact with you. Any continued attempts by you to force interaction will be interpreted as harassment and, given your past history, met with deletion. Am I clear?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator


Nono, the proportion I asked for was (Klonor threads ive posted in)/(klonor threads)

you see, that would be a nice index of whether or not i 'make a point' of posting in them


And indeed, i shall not address or interact with klonor any more.

The thread I posted before this was prior to reading your warning. Ditto the post before this.

Nono, the proportion I asked for was (Klonor threads ive posted in)/(klonor threads)

you see, that would be a nice index of whether or not i 'make a point' of posting in them
While high-proportion evidence is evidence-of-harassment, absence of high-proportion evidence is NOT evidence-against-harassment. Hypothetically speaking, you could space out the incidents to try to keep this arbitrary proportion low. The fact remains that attempting to force the issue against Klonors will is harassment.

And indeed, i shall not address or interact with klonor any more.

The thread I posted before this was prior to reading your warning. Ditto the post before this.
Good.

Since we're all clear on this, iLock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator