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I was recently called a child molester and a new hitler on a regional board. When I complained to the Mods, I was ignored. Why did this happen?

Note that I'm not a mod.

I was recently called a child molester and a new hitler on a regional board. When I complained to the Mods, I was ignored. Why did this happen?Was it on one of the region boards run by the game? If it was on an off-site board, the NS moderators do not have jurisdiction over that.

I was recently called a child molester and a new hitler on a regional board. When I complained to the Mods, I was ignored. Why did this happen?

You're going to have to be a bit more specific than that. Where did you report this? IRC? The Getting Help Page? How do you know you've been "ignored?"

We don't get everything done instantly, you know.

This is Manchcan. For some reason, I cannot acess the forums from that account, so I am using this one.

I reported it on the getting help page twice. The first time was a week ago the first time this guy did it and the second time was yesterday, the second time the same guy did it.

It would seem that a week would be a fairly long time to wait. After all, when I was kicked out of the UN for multiing before I realized what that was, it happened less than four hours after I was found out.

I am wondering why nothing was done despite the fact that the rules clearly state that that kind of obscenity is not allowed and I reported this twice, a week ago and a day ago.

No, this was not on an out-of-site board, it was on the regional board.

"Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me”

I suggest that you just forget about it, this player obviously has no idea on the rules of social interaction, if you simply allow him to continue his really blatant and uninspiring name calling, he is undoubtedly going to continue it in real life, where the punishments are far more physical, but apart from that, its only a name and an insult to get you angry and upset, it worked and the player has already done his damage, just ignore his posts in future , it will make for a more enjoyable game, and relieve the stress of trying to get moderator help.

But it is only advice…..

That isn't bad advice, but I'm afaid it won't work. This guy goes to my school, and we talk outside of the game, and he's keeping this up out of the board. I'd like to see him get censored here. It would lend weight to my arguements.

NationStates doesn't censure members for things that don't happen under our jurisdiction. If he breaks our site rules, provide a link or file a Getting Help report if it's on a region's message board. If it happened offsite, it's the offsite forum owner's problem.

We're not here to resolve real-life problems for you. We've got enough to do just keeping up with NS.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
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I was recently called a child molester and a new hitler on a regional board.

It was on a regional board. That is what I said. I also clearly stated that I had logged two reports on the getting help page. The whole point of this thread was that those two logged complaints were ignored.

It was on a regional board. That is what I said. I also clearly stated that I had logged two reports on the getting help page. The whole point of this thread was that those two logged complaints were ignored.

Sometimes, actions that are taken according to the GHP page without the person reporting them being notified. It's possible that a moderator took action on it, but didn't inform you of it. The moderators get many requests on the GHP and cannot always inform everyone who requested help, of their decisions.

Well, unless all the moderator does for a flagrant violation of the rules is send a stern telegram, then nothing has happened. He hasn't been removed from the UN, by all appearences he hasn't even had his hands slapped, as he seems to be in a good mood when he sends insulting TGs that are just a hair away from being over the line.

Well, unless all the moderator does for a flagrant violation of the rules is send a stern telegram, then nothing has happened. He hasn't been removed from the UN, by all appearences he hasn't even had his hands slapped, as he seems to be in a good mood when he sends insulting TGs that are just a hair away from being over the line.

Certain actions don't necessarily always equal a deletion for that player. It is possible that he received a warning for doing such things, but I'm not going to speculate (I'll await a moderator decision). Only pointing out the fact that for each offense, it is a case-by-case issue on how serious the action was. It is possible that it wasn't deemed flagrant enough for an immediate deletion.

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I think that spells it out pretty clearly. That is a flagrant violation. His actions flew directly in the face of the rules of the game. The punishment, as laid out in the Rules section of the website, is deletion.

They are mostly doin their jobs and they probably have more important things to worry about

Well if you have threatening, harrassing tg's or the like, leave them in your tg box and ask the mods to check 'em out when they have time. If this isn't possible or what you have isn't actionable, ignore the guy. As in 'add him to your ignore list' for tg's.

As for some of the rest ... so he's calling you unsavory names, yes? I hardly think calling someone a 'little Hitler' is a bannable offense. Mouthing off and calling someone a child molester is rather off, yes, but jeebus, you going to ban everyone who calls someone else a name just to get a rise out of 'em?

If the behaviour continues, I would imagine it'd fall under harrassment. You're probably giving him all the validation he wants just in responding and making such a big deal of it. You want to beat him? Take that away by not responding to his bs. In the meantime, give it a bit, and don't think that just because the mods don't immediately do just what you want them to that they're 'ignoring' you.

In any case, this is all just conjecture. Not like I know anything more about this than what I've seen - s' just an opinion, like anyone elses. Take it or leave it. Hope the two of you manage to sort all this out regardless. The fact that you're asking the mods to 'lend weight to your arguments' kind of suggests that this perhaps is something y'all ought to work out on your own, with both of you trying to be a bit more mature about the whole matter.

The behavior already has continued. He has called me a child molester twice, and hitler, a**hole, b*stard, f*ckhead, and other similar names multiple times.

I did not expect the mods to respond immeadiatly. I would kind of expect a response within a week. That would seem to be a fairly long time to wait, given that multiple other bannings seem to be going on all the time for similar reasons.

Please read the above responses if your advice falls into the"give it time" category. I have now explained to three different people that I have tried that and it has failed. Read the thread!

[Edit: I did try to work it out. It didn't help. That is why I came to the Mods.]

Read the rest of the post. Ignore can be our friend. Keep any threatening/harrassing tg's in your box so mods can take a look at it. Your word against his does exactly squat for you. If there's problems on the regional board, use the Getting Help page that I believe takes an in-game screenshot of the problem so the mods can review it.

If you have done all these things, learn patience and continue to ignore the twit. Feeding the trolls only keeps them going after all, neh? If the evidence provided isn't enough for the mods to take action, be the bigger man and move on. Let the other guy sit and fuss and think he's all that if he wants, but let it go, and move on.

If there's a problem at school as you've mentioned, go to the folks there. Mods can't help with your real life difficulties. And please bear in mind that they have an entire site full of thousands of players to be taking care of. They can't possibly get to everything instantly, even if they did have unlimited time - which they don't. Just because one complaint got solved fast does not mean all will. Deal.

It's volunteer work. You can 'expect' all you like, but what it comes down to is they do the best they can with what they've got, and until you start paying them a salary for it, you can get what you get and be happy with it, or try your luck elsewhere. Guess I'm getting tired of folks 'round here thinking the mods are at their personal beck and call to take care of every piddly little grievance they can possibly come up with, especially when a lot of it could be solved just by people learning some maturity.

Yes, it's their 'job' so to speak, given they've offered to do what they can. But honestly, folks. Too many complaints now and then start sounding like my kids and their 'brother/sister pulled a face at me' bits. I hardly think your approach here with the whole 'Ignored by mods' when you have no idea what's gone on behind the scenes is at all helpful, in any case.

Bah, I say.

Not to be egotistical here, but I am gonna quote myself http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8689881&postcount=29 :

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Now, are the moderators human? Yes.
Are the overworked? Absolutely.
Are they paid? I dont belive so.

Why would you reccomend someone do work for free unless they get something from it? They get to play, the same as you, and their small time of amusement is payment for the hours of headaches they get from various moderation complaints. Why not lighten their load a smidge?

*NOTE* Ish not a mod */NOTE*

The behavior already has continued. He has called me a child molester twice, and hitler, a**hole, b*stard, f*ckhead, and other similar names multiple times.
I'm a forum mod, not a game mod, so I don't have access to the Getting Help list. Consequently, I don't know what you reported. If you didn't check the box to include the regional message board (RMB) that included the offending passages, then it becomes hearsay once the messages scroll off the board,

I looked over the region "United Irish Emirates", and it looks like your region is at war with the region Nalland. Your founder, Protocoach, appears to be using his founder abilities to clear the Regional Happenings Board (RHB) and destroy some sort of evidence of movement. Given that there is obviously some sort of invasion context here, with exchanges of insults on both sides, I'm guessing that whomever processed your GHR took the entire thing into account, and not just the individual messages.

If you are being attacked unfairly, the offender will be dealt with. If you are attempting to use the Mods as a weapon in an ongoing battle with other players ... "be careful what you ask for, for you will surely get it."

This has not been a ruling, merely a clarification of the situation as I see it.

I am Protocoach. I know exactly what I was doing. I am not attempting to use the mods as a weapon. I am trying to stop the invasion that certain stupid members of my board are trying to start. I am also attempting to get some justice because a guy broke the rules. I was clearing out something that I was asked, out of the game, to clear by a friend, who wanted to stay out of the conflict.

The problem was not on the UIE board. The problem was in Nalland, before the whole stupid war thing. The problem was entirely unrelated to the invasion that other board members are trying to start. I did attach the regional board to the original message.

I don't have the time to look into this at present, but I can assure you that if you filed a GHR with some manner of proof, we took some manner of action. Many times we simply don't have the time to send you a telegram or whatnot saying we warned $NATION for mouthing off; chances are you'll notice the offender ceasing to exist soon if he's done it again and you've sent another GHR complaining about this.

Patience is a virtue. We've got at least 50,000 users on site now, and they're all bitchin' about something.