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Stop the Chav threads.

Lacadaemon
03-04-2005, 02:53
It's not funny.

Yeah, so some people are poor and behave a certain way. So what?

Chav is a demeaning term, and blatant flamebait. You wouldn't let me start a thread called stop the niggers. Same difference isn't it?
Roxacola
03-04-2005, 03:01
They prefer it if you add a link to the thread
Neo-Anarchists
03-04-2005, 03:09
I believe this is the thread in question:
http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409821
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anarchic Conceptions
03-04-2005, 03:10
Well he used the plural, so I think he asking for 'Chav' threads to be put in the same group as the "Ask a...." and "Appreciation" threads.
Lacadaemon
03-04-2005, 03:15
Here it is http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409821

Given that, ' biggleses ' would look at least half my family as 'chavs' I am really pissed off.

(Well we do have more money than him, but that is not the point.)
Frisbeeteria
03-04-2005, 03:49
http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8597425&postcount=44

Locked.
Roxacola
03-04-2005, 04:00
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8597493&postcount=53



Spawned another thread. Definite flaming
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 04:11
what's a chav? I know, its a stupid question. But I don't know what it is.
Lacadaemon
03-04-2005, 04:14
Chav, is an offensive term describing the 'lower class' who go out and get some money and spend it.

In the US they would be called the middle class.

In any event, thanks for locking the thread.
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 04:16
Chav, is an offensive term describing the 'lower class' who go out and get some money and spend it.

In the US they would be called the middle class.

In any event, thanks for locking the thread.
why not just call them lower class?
Frisbeeteria
03-04-2005, 04:27
In any event, thanks for locking the thread.
Lacadaemon, you were every bit as much as participant in the flaming and flamebaiting as Biggleses. I didn't see the post that Roxacola linked or I would have made it an official warning. Given that the thread has already been closed for a while, I'm just going to let it pass for now, but consider yourself on notification. "Shut the fuck up" is not a polite endearment in NS.


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Whittier-, Moderation is for discussion of the moderation decisions, not the underlying topic. This is twice you've made General-type comments here tonight. I know you're self-banned from General, and I think it's a wise decision to keep it that way. Don't use Moderation as a substitute.
Lacadaemon
03-04-2005, 04:40
Yeah, well I admit that it was a bit over the top, but when my Auntie Vinny gets "Chav" shouted at her by a whole bunch of 'homosexuals' because she won't move out of her neighborhood - Fenham Newcastle - because they want to buy her house, I get very uptight about the word.

I mean, for gods sake, she is 80+, good job gay people.

Damn her for being poor, and buying a house.

Don't worry though, I have lots of NYC money, and I visit her twice a year, that house is staying in the family,
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 05:29
Lacadaemon, you were every bit as much as participant in the flaming and flamebaiting as Biggleses. I didn't see the post that Roxacola linked or I would have made it an official warning. Given that the thread has already been closed for a while, I'm just going to let it pass for now, but consider yourself on notification. "Shut the fuck up" is not a polite endearment in NS.


~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Forum Moderator



Whittier-, Moderation is for discussion of the moderation decisions, not the underlying topic. This is twice you've made General-type comments here tonight. I know you're self-banned from General, and I think it's a wise decision to keep it that way. Don't use Moderation as a substitute.
sorry.
Axis Nova
03-04-2005, 08:12
Actually, Chavs are gangs of young hoodlums who hang out in some English cities in large groups. They have horrible taste in clothes and tend to harrass/attack anyone who annoys them and steal anything that isn't nailed down :p

Basically, they're overgrown kids who figured out that no one will really stop them from doing whatever they want to :p
Zombie Lagoon
03-04-2005, 11:37
I hate peoples obbssestion with Chavs aswell. The people who use this forum are just as bad towards chavs as chavs are to them... sometimes. It's also unhealthy to hate a group of people because of what they are.
Guuuuys
03-04-2005, 11:47
Why are people sticking up for chavs, I live in an area where 99% of the people are chavs and they're awful hooligans. They shout and fight and don't deserve the right to be on this planet. I live in the only detached house in my neighbourhood. We only live here cus its cheap. but anyway, chavs are bad.
Elija
03-04-2005, 12:09
why not just call them lower class?

Because its not about class. I agree, discriminating against class is wrong, but chav isnt a class thing.

Chav is not a commentary on race, it's a commentary on something they can consciously change themselves.

Exactly. And even if it is dicrimination, thats good. We discriminate against criminals by putting them in prison, because they are part of a 'subculture' called criminals.
Saxnot
03-04-2005, 12:18
Because its not about class. I agree, discriminating against class is wrong, but chav isnt a class thing... even if it is dicrimination, thats good. We discriminate against criminals by putting them in prison, because they are part of a 'subculture' called criminals.
Indeed. It's not discrimination on the basis of immutable characteristics. It's discrimination on the basis of intimidating and often criminal behaviour.
Adejaani
03-04-2005, 12:20
Excuse me...

Moderation is for discussion of the moderation decisions, not the underlying topic.

Moderation is not for discussing the topics themselves but whether or not the nature of the content is appropriate. The content, not the issue. So please... Take this discussion back to General.