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thread closed - why?

Santa Barbara
23-03-2005, 18:53
It would be helpful to know the reasons behind this thread's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=407039) closing. If no reason is given you can't expect me or others not to do the same thing.

Personally, I object to it's being considered spam. It WAS a thread about why I am in fact, against marriage. Is it spam simply because there are other 'marriage' threads around, and I should just go post what I think about marriage in THOSE instead?
Frisbeeteria
23-03-2005, 18:59
It was closed because it was a copycat thread to all the Marriage threads. I included a link to the topic where Katganistan and I pointed out that such threads would be locked. I thought the link was 100% self-explanatory, as it addressed the very questions you are raising in its first two posts. Apparently not.

Feel free to add to existing threads on the subject, but don't add to General's overflowing coffers by making new ones, please.
Santa Barbara
23-03-2005, 19:10
I didn't see any other threads on the validity/worth of marriage itself. I did find numerous threads on "gay" or "straight" marriage, maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

In the link, you said: "Copycat threads with no content are spam and will be locked or moved to the Spam forum."

Well my thread had content, which had pretty much nothing to do with the other thread's contents (let alone being a parody) other than the concept of "against" and "marriage." So was it the choice of title that makes it copycatting/spam? And if so is that really cause for closing? I could change the thread title to "my view on marriage."

Or are there never to be any threads ever made about marriage unless they are pro? That can't be the case, I withdraw the question. But is there a wait-time, for the existing threads to go down before someone can make a thread about the same subject and not be considered spam or copycat? If so, how long?

Sorry for the questions, but this seems like a good time to learn as any.
Alien Born
23-03-2005, 19:19
Frisbeeteria: I think Santa Barbara has a a case here. It is often going to happen that posters are inspired to create threads by reading other threads. This does lead to batches of similar threads.

The duplicate thread ruling I understood to stop the "I love a good..." type spamming that went on a while ago (I was guilty of one of those).

This case is not that type of contentless spam. She made some points at the start that are worthy of discussion and relate to how society works.
Santa Barbara
23-03-2005, 19:26
Frisbeeteria: I think Santa Barbara has a a case here. It is often going to happen that posters are inspired to create threads by reading other threads. This does lead to batches of similar threads.

The duplicate thread ruling I understood to stop the "I love a good..." type spamming that went on a while ago (I was guilty of one of those).

This case is not that type of contentless spam. She made some points at the start that are worthy of discussion and relate to how society works.

Thanks, though I'm not really trying to make a 'case' as such. By now I don't care if the thread's closed or open - it doesn't matter much in the long run, and I certainly CAN copy those views and transplant them to some other thread.

I was mostly just wondering what some good rules of thread creation might be to avoid being closed - which for a thread, is being executed by the state instead of dying of old age.

Anyway, I'm a male! I know it's hard to tell, with my nation name PLUS the Jolt moniker of Cabbage Patch Girl.
Frisbeeteria
23-03-2005, 19:50
I read the first post as a straight-up parody of the "gay marriage" and "straight marriage" threads, and the seven other posters who responded seemed to read it that way too. I locked it and linked to the copycat ruling.
It is often going to happen that posters are inspired to create threads by reading other threads. This does lead to batches of similar threads. Which is why the copycat ruling was stickied. It's not just "Ask a ..." or "You need a ..." threads that spam up the forums. When the threads are sufficiently different, as most of them are in the Schiavo topics, they stay open. When the threads start to feed back on each other in some sort of mutual spamming frenzy, they get locked or moved.

I don't see this as a worthy candidate to be reopened, but I am currently at the office and can't chat up the other mods to solicit different opinions. If any other mod wants to chip in, or even overrule, fine by me.
Alien Born
23-03-2005, 20:12
Anyway, I'm a male! I know it's hard to tell, with my nation name PLUS the Jolt moniker of Cabbage Patch Girl.

Sorry. I will try to remember.
Steel Butterfly
24-03-2005, 01:57
Anyway, I'm a male! I know it's hard to tell, with my nation name.

Oh I get this all the time. "Butterfly" somehow makes me a girl by default.