NationStates Jolt Archive


On behalf of Lazarus...

Baribeau
18-03-2005, 06:00
I am not particularily experienced with the NS Jolt forums, so I apologize if this is the wrong place.

I TG'd the following message to Testlandia, the mod-established founder of Lazarus. I am posting it here for all to hear our plea.

Dear Testlandia,

I don't know who controls this nation. The rumor is that it is a mod known as [violet], possible even Max Barry himself.

Anyways, I'm sending you this Telegram, hoping that you'll hear my plea.

My name is Paul, my main nation is Baribeau, the former UN Delegate (I think I has the job for 80+ days before RL caught up with me) of the wonderful region of Lazarus. I am also a participant in affairs in The North Pacific, Canada and The Swamp. I serve as ambassador from all of these regions to The West Pacific.

Through my NS gameplay, I have come to notice that Lazarus' community is being neglected. We have a dedicated group of members, who work hard to keep UN nations in the region, and encourage UN membership for all of our members. Our off-site forums have over 1000 posts, and we have ever-improving participation in both our "in game" and "out-of-character" sections. The region is, however, without the ability to perform simple tasks such as changing the World Factbook Entry, or banning people who cause trouble on the regional HQ. Our every action requires game mod assistance, which, (and trust me, they do a good job), isn't always available 24/7. In my time as UN Delegate, I saw more than one racist, homophobic, or just plain vulgar comment posted for the world to see, with no one going punished.

Anyways, before I take up your whole day, I want to stress once again the amount of dedication and life that is in Lazarus. The region is, however, being prevented from expanding. Most nations show little interest in regions where they are unable to do perform simple tasks as changing their WFE, or defending their delegacy.

So, what I ask of you, is to consider giving this region a little more freedom. I have the following proposal, which I don't think would require too much programming, and would allow for improved gameplay for hundreds of players:

-Establish a system that would allow the UN Delegate to change the WFE, and consider allowing the delegate to ban nations. (This system would be very similar to the one in The Rejected Realms)

-Keep Testlandia as regional founder, so that, if it is determined that the delegate's actions were inappropriate, actions could easily be taken to reverse what was done, and suitably punish the offending Delegate.

Should the above mentioned actions be taken, I don't think the people of Lazarus would have any problems with allowing regional advertising on the HQ, as can be found in The Pacifics and The RR (it is currently a deleteable offense in Lazarus).

Thank you kindly for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Baribeau,
Former Lazarus UN Delegate
[violet]
18-03-2005, 23:50
Testlandia is an admin nation, used to test new features on the live server before they're inflicted on regular players. I don't usually check its telegrams.

Lazarus was never meant to be the kind of region that would develop a community, but since it has anyway, we'll see how we go. :)

I've removed Testlandia as Founder. This means that Lazarus now works the same as other regions, except (as in the Pacific regions and Rejected Realms) it cannot be password-protected.
Baribeau
20-03-2005, 00:25
On behalf of everyone, Thank you very very much.

You won't regret this.
Ballotonia
21-03-2005, 11:46
']I've removed Testlandia as Founder. This means that Lazarus now works the same as other regions, except (as in the Pacific regions and Rejected Realms) it cannot be password-protected.

Is there no technical problem when trying to resurrect a nation when it is still on the banlist of Lazarus?

Ballotonia
Cogitation
21-03-2005, 13:51
Is there no technical problem when trying to resurrect a nation when it is still on the banlist of Lazarus?
Ban a nation from Lazarus, it dies, it gets resurrected.... Is that what you're asking?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Gothic Kitty
21-03-2005, 17:00
Last time I checked, a deleted nation is automaticly removed from any banlist, so a resurrected nation can enter Lazarus any time. Seems logic to me :)
Zyonn
21-03-2005, 20:21
Good job Bari, smiles to you!

And thank you mods for giving us a lil more power!
The Red Factions
22-03-2005, 20:08
Is Lazarus qualified as a feeder region now? Is recruiting allowed now as mentionned by Baribeau?
SalusaSecondus
22-03-2005, 20:14
Is Lazarus qualified as a feeder region now? Is recruiting allowed now as mentionned by Baribeau?

Yes, it is.

Changed to reflect that I was wrong originally
Ballotonia
22-03-2005, 21:42
Ban a nation from Lazarus, it dies, it gets resurrected.... Is that what you're asking?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Yes, that's the question.

Ballotonia
SalusaSecondus
22-03-2005, 23:26
Yes, that's the question.

Ballotonia

I'm pretty sure that it will break things, so for now the ban list is clear and banning is prohibited.
Grenval
22-03-2005, 23:40
I'm pretty sure that it will break things, so for now the ban list is clear and banning is prohibited.

Ah, um, nevermind. That's crazy! :eek:
SalusaSecondus
23-03-2005, 01:06
Ah, um, nevermind. That's crazy! :eek:

Huh, what is?
Ballotonia
23-03-2005, 15:40
Ah, um, nevermind. That's crazy! :eek:

That's the exact way it is in The Rejected Realms, and also the way it was when there was a Mod Founder who blocked out the access to Regional Controls entirely. Between a month ago and the current situation, the natives of Lazarus have gained the ability to have their delegate directly alter the WFE. That's all.

Ballotonia
Relaxed
23-03-2005, 15:56
Ah, um, nevermind. That's crazy! :eek:

Seems like the "Wish corruption game".

Poof, you have what you wished for, but you are now an open target for invasions :D
Cogitation
23-03-2005, 16:32
Seems like the "Wish corruption game".

Poof, you have what you wished for, but you are now an open target for invasions :D
Can't ban, can't password. I'd say that they're about as susceptible to invasions as "The Rejected Realms".

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Sarda
30-03-2005, 03:01
Perhaps a banning system similar to a warzone would work properly? In that fashion, nations legitimately seeking ressurection, would not be hampered by their presence on the Lazarus ban list? I suggest this based on the assumption that that is in fact the technical concern.
Ballotonia
31-03-2005, 08:46
Perhaps a banning system similar to a warzone would work properly? In that fashion, nations legitimately seeking ressurection, would not be hampered by their presence on the Lazarus ban list? I suggest this based on the assumption that that is in fact the technical concern.

Sounds like the recipe for Lazarus to become an invasion magnet. Do you hate the nations in Lazarus that much? :p

Ballotonia
Anstan
31-03-2005, 16:10
Perhaps a banning system similar to a warzone would work properly? In that fashion, nations legitimately seeking ressurection, would not be hampered by their presence on the Lazarus ban list? I suggest this based on the assumption that that is in fact the technical concern.


Maybe a ban system that the banning would only last like a week or two? Unless you are deleted for rules violations, this would not effect the resurrection of dead nations for it would be only 7-14 days of inactivity, and last time I checked its something like 28-30 days before a nation is ceases to exist because of inactivity.
Cogitation
31-03-2005, 17:13
Perhaps a banning system similar to a warzone would work properly? In that fashion, nations legitimately seeking ressurection, would not be hampered by their presence on the Lazarus ban list? I suggest this based on the assumption that that is in fact the technical concern.
This idea is probably going to get filed in the "More Trouble Than It's Worth" category. There are cases where a nation is deleted by a Moderator by mistake, and if such a nation is resurrected and it's also on the Lazarus banlist, then it will break things (like SalusaSecondus said).

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator