NationStates Jolt Archive


Banning my flag?

Angry Aryan Soldiers
15-03-2005, 23:25
Why would you delete a nation whose flag is the swastika? That is utter crap. You let the jews fly the star of david. The jews have killed thousands of innocent palestinians. They are the real reason behind 9/11 and everyone knows it. If you ban the swastika you should ban the star of david. Not doing so is hypocritical on the moderators part. When uploading a flag it says not to upload one that will cause wide spread offense. So if all the whites in this game and region I am in are pissed about your jewish flag it should be removed or we should be allowed to fly the swastika.
Tarlachia
15-03-2005, 23:29
Go to the Moderation Forum...
Scolopendra
15-03-2005, 23:33
No, because:

1) Max Barry said swastikas are not to be on flags,

2) He has not come down on other symbols purloined by hate groups (Klan crosses, triskelions, SS thunderbolts, SS totenkopfs, fyflots, etc.),

3) He has not come down on other symbols used by other political entities (Communist hammer-'n-sickle, Star of David, any-number-of-nations eagle, etc.),

and 4) It's been like this for two years and there's a warning right next to where you upload new flags, so no one can argue ignorance anymore unless they want to blatantly point out that they have absolutely no reading comprehension or situational awareness (much less attention to detail).
Neo-Anarchists
15-03-2005, 23:50
Hey Scolo, in that same region, isn't there another nation with a swastika?
This one:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/41140/page=display_nation/nation=the_vinland_reich
Bodies Without Organs
15-03-2005, 23:52
Hey Scolo, in that same region, isn't there another nation with a swastika?


This kind of thing should be reported through the Getting Help pages. Having said that, there's at least one nation there with an inappropriate national animal too, and another one, aside the one you listed, with a swastika flag.
Steel Butterfly
15-03-2005, 23:54
Hey Scolo, in that same region, isn't there another nation with a swastika?
This one:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/41140/page=display_nation/nation=the_vinland_reich

The full-blown Nazi flag...

like scolo said...don't people read the thing as they upload their flags?
Right thinking whites
15-03-2005, 23:57
i cant say i agree with the selictive banning of cirten symbles on flags(cause i dont)
but i can say this it's maxs site, and well some of us might want to see other symbols of mass murder banned there is realy nothing we can do
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 23:57
No, because:

1) Max Barry said swastikas are not to be on flags,

2) He has not come down on other symbols purloined by hate groups (Klan crosses, triskelions, SS thunderbolts, SS totenkopfs, fyflots, etc.),

3) He has not come down on other symbols used by other political entities (Communist hammer-'n-sickle, Star of David, any-number-of-nations eagle, etc.),

and 4) It's been like this for two years and there's a warning right next to where you upload new flags, so no one can argue ignorance anymore unless they want to blatantly point out that they have absolutely no reading comprehension or situational awareness (much less attention to detail).

1.) No one has the RIGHT to tell people in a game ABOUT POLITICS what flag they should and should not ban. It is rediculous to BAN a POLITICAL SYMBOL because, oh, boo hoo, it OFFENDED someone. Grow up people, if you're really THAT offended, don't play the game.

2.) Communism offends ME but I'm not CRYING about it. Many things offend me, as a girl people ASSUMING that I am a man on this game offends me. But I'm not going to go cry to the moderator, begging for unbiased gender assumptions.

3.) People are only human. We will offend eachother until the end of time, so it is rediculous to try and censor anything. As for ignorance, it is easy to pass by that warning. I've made several flags and I did not bother reading the warnings. I understood that OBVIOUS things such as PORN wouldn't be allowed, porn is not a political symbol, but swastikas are.

This is rediculous, if anyone should be offended, it should be those who proudly display the swasticka and get punished for it.
The Mindset
15-03-2005, 23:59
1. Max has that right. It's his game, he pays to make sure your nation still exists and that the site has enough bandwidth for you to view it.
2. This has nothing to do with what is offensive and what is not, it's a matter of the decision by the owner of this site.
3. Etc.
Dontgonearthere
16-03-2005, 00:00
I think I know the answer to this already, but...
what about the old Asian swastica? The one thats a symbol of good luck?
Possibly this was addressed a while ago, but Im kinda curious.
Neo-Anarchists
16-03-2005, 00:00
1.) No one has the RIGHT to tell people in a game ABOUT POLITICS what flag they should and should not ban. It is rediculous to BAN a POLITICAL SYMBOL because, oh, boo hoo, it OFFENDED someone. Grow up people, if you're really THAT offended, don't play the game.
The problem here, is that it is a direct order from Max. Max owns the game, and he dictates what can happen within it, no matter how contradictory or wrong it may seem.
Right thinking whites
16-03-2005, 00:00
1. Max has that right. It's his game, he pays to make sure your nation still exists and that the site has enough bandwidth for you to view it.
max dosnt pay any more jolt hosts the game and forums for free
Frisbeeteria
16-03-2005, 00:01
1.) No one has the RIGHT to tell people in a game ABOUT POLITICS what flag they should and should not ban.
The site administrator has every right to tell people exactly what she will or won't permit, and your right to claim otherwise is non-existent.

Here is the ruling: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275081

The debate is closed, for the 234,643,043th time.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team
The Most Glorious Hack
16-03-2005, 04:10
I know that posting through a lock is bad form, but...

I think I know the answer to this already, but...
what about the old Asian swastica? The one thats a symbol of good luck?
Possibly this was addressed a while ago, but Im kinda curious.

That is banned as well. Forward or backward, the swastica is not allowed.