NationStates Jolt Archive


A word of warning...

AOF
12-03-2005, 13:22
Take heed nationstate players, if your nation has the word 'ass' in it, you are about to be deleted thanks to the tireless efforts of one Steel Butterfly.

This 'person' feels it is important that all yucky words get removed from nationstates.

My other nation, asshelmetropolis, is getting deleted with about one hundred and twenty other nations because of an overly vigorous interpretation of the obscenity rules.

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Doubt me? Check the moderation thread about the Isle of Lesbos and illegal names.

Where does this lead? To a place where any farcical interpretation of your nations name could lead to a deletion of your nation.

Stand up and be counted.
Sidestreamer
12-03-2005, 14:00
Sounds like a real bad case of PCdom...
Ro-Ro
12-03-2005, 14:04
A lil bit extreme - has "ass" become an obscenity without me noticing?
Gawdly
12-03-2005, 14:05
Wrong place for this thread, IF there really is a place for this type of thread.

Possible flame-bait.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I am not a Moderator: I'M SPARTACUS!
Reformed Velmora
12-03-2005, 14:25
What the fresh hell? This is utterly stupid, and reminds me horribly of political correctness. Who is complaining that they are getting insulted by the word "ass" in a nation's name? Where are the driving crowds which are protesting against people innocently having that word within thier nation's name as part of thier actual nation name? When people read "Assington", is everyone corrupted and deeply insulted by it?


Moderators, get a fucking grip.
Midlonia
12-03-2005, 15:00
Wrong place for this thread, IF there really is a place for this type of thread.

Possible flame-bait.

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NO! I'M SPARTACUS!
Tarlachia
12-03-2005, 16:33
This is a slippery slope issue, because if this were indeed true, then why not delete the countless threads that have profanity lacing them? I also say nay to this idea, for there are some RPers out there who have built up excellent reputations, thus, why punish them?

I say, go on a case by case decision. Don't punish the whole for the stupidity of a few.
Nanakaland
12-03-2005, 16:36
Based on the mods removing the signature, it was probably more than just "ass" in the title. Maybe a bad flag or something. Ask the mods to see what really got you DEATed. And if it was just the name like you say, don't blame Steel Butterfly.

And upon further thinking, your name was asshelmetropolis. Asshel is basically asshole. Sorry, but someone was probably offended by the curse word in your title.

[EDIT: And I highly doubt that Steel Butterfly got you deleted for just your name. His RPs include countless swearwords.]
South Osettia
12-03-2005, 16:37
I had a nation called Masserat - would that have been deleted?
Santa Barbara
12-03-2005, 16:39
I'm wondering why no one has taken the obvious route and tried to make like Steel Butterfly's name is illegal too... you know, it has "butt" in it.

Anyway this is total flamebait, I know because I'm tempted to flame here. And I'm never tempted to flame with non-flamebait threads! :p
Nanakaland
12-03-2005, 16:40
I had a nation called Masserat - would that have been deleted?Check. It it was, then it probbably brings validity to this guy's claim. Complain to the mods if it was deleted. Yours shouldn't have been because you don't use "ass" as a curse word.
Midlonia
12-03-2005, 16:42
Actually, yeah, exactly why Steel Butterfly would do that is beyond me, SB has some of the most graphic violence in his RP's, not really much like him to pick over something as trivial as the word "ass".
Draconis Nightcrawlis
12-03-2005, 16:42
I'm wondering why no one has taken the obvious route and tried to make like Steel Butterfly's name is illegal too... you know, it has "butt" in it.


Actually I think AOF did try that argument in the thread in moderation :rolleyes:

Thread in question http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=403139

This thread should probably be in Moderation itself.
Queen Ayala
12-03-2005, 16:45
how american.... and how stupid.... no one every died from reading the word ass and deffenely not if the a and s and s is part of an longer word... again... How american.....
Salutus
12-03-2005, 16:45
I'm wondering why no one has taken the obvious route and tried to make like Steel Butterfly's name is illegal too... you know, it has "butt" in it.

:p

Anyway this is total flamebait, I know because I'm tempted to flame here. And I'm never tempted to flame with non-flamebait threads! :p

i, too, am tempted to flame. and unlike you, i will give in to the temptation.

all you self-important people (you know who you are) who feel the need to police the forums, do the world a favor and go far, far away. nobody likes you and you are adopted. i am so sick of uppity self-righteous people and you all need to get a grip.

actually that wasn't too much of a flame, but that's the nicest way i could put my thoughts. ;)
Salutus
12-03-2005, 16:46
how american.... and how stupid.... no one every died from reading the word ass and deffenely not if the a and s and s is part of an longer word... again... How american.....

there should be disclaimers on threads for people like this: remove head from anus before attempting to communicate with others.
Nanakaland
12-03-2005, 16:59
"Asshelmetta" is alive. Just do a search! This must have been a flamebait.
Euroslavia
12-03-2005, 17:01
You seem to be forgetting the fact that you had a link to a specific website that had pornography. Your complaints about this topic is only going to give you more of a disadvantage among the moderators, since this topic is quite flamebaitish.

Despite the fact that Steel Butterfly was the first to stand up and say something about your name, it is still, nevertheless against the rules of Nation States, so I see no point in blaming SB for your problems.

Assington was ruled to be ok since there is a city in RL named Assington. All of this is stated in the link to that thread.
Santa Barbara
12-03-2005, 17:02
Actually I think AOF did try that argument in the thread in moderation :rolleyes:

Thread in question http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=403139

This thread should probably be in Moderation itself.

Yikes. I didn't check the thread again but it surprises me not.

BTW for those reading who actually thought that was a decent idea... well, what is an asshelmet? = vulgar meaning something. What is a steel butterfly? A... steel butterfly. The thing with Asshelmetta is the nation name is based off a slang term for ... whatever an asshelmet is. (I could guess... but I don't know for sure. But it's a lot more provokative than butterfly.)
Nanakaland
12-03-2005, 17:05
Asshelmet.

I think it's a way to say Ass-hel (which sounds like asshole) in the first two sylabols. This nation does deserve deletion.

[Edit: His fate has already been sealed. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8413916&postcount=110)]
Katganistan
12-03-2005, 17:20
Firstly: Obscene names are illegal on NationStates. When we notice them, and when we sweep for them, they are deleted.

Secondly: It was linking to a site which contained adult material, and a subsequent investigation which turned up questionable names which resulted in some deletions of improper names.

Thirdly: This is spelled out in the TOS and should be a surprise to no one. We are not about to change our policy on obscenity because a few people like to push the envelope.

Fourthly: This call for harassing a poster is completely out of line, and is a continuation of the same foolishness as was placed on the Regional Messageboard.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST that anyone considering harassing another player on this board be advised that such actions will result in both puppets and main nations being dealt with.

Finally: AOF, your complaint is with the Moderation Staff, not any player, and appeals may be made via Salusa@nationstates.net. If any more of these threads are started in defiance of the moderation decision, your nation will be forumbanned and considered for deletion.


OFFICIAL WARNING: malicious behavior against a player.
Cogitation
12-03-2005, 17:25
Asshelmet.

I think it's a way to say Ass-hel (which sounds like asshole) in the first two sylabols. This nation does deserve deletion.

[Edit: His fate has already been sealed. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8413916&postcount=110)]
Thank you for linking to that.

AOF: Official Warning - Harassing Steel Butterfly. Any further violations of NationStates forum rules will result in a forumban.

I will also remind everyone that obscenities in the game are more tightly regulated than obscenities in the forums. Forum posts can be responded to and debated. National names, currencies, et cetera have no place to tack on a debate.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator