NationStates Jolt Archive

What happened again in the region "Italia" ? Spawnvd, after kicking 46 nations out of 92 on the first day he became delegate, tried to refound the region ?

I ask Moderators to please intervene with a temporary founder, and not give power to any of the factions anymore, because it is now clear that as soon as you give power to one, he will kick all the people that he dislikes.

I find it really incredible that this guy on the FIRST day after becoming delegate, kicked+banned 46 nations and put a password to the region !! It's more than 50% of the region !

Can't we just play in peace ??

Lombardo-veneta

Why can I say some pplz r childish others have an excuse such as being a child then u have F***heads how enjoy being they way maybe u should get together with the other nations that got kick=banned and form your own region

Ban List

No nations are banned.

all natives are welcomed back.
a mod deleted the griefer and cleared the banlist, and i'm working on getting a list of natives.
wonder what happened this time..

The UN rankings to help to find natives:

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# Nation UN Category Motto
1. FlagThe New Age Utopic Republic of Shiny Cats Left-wing Utopia "We Are What We Can"
2. FlagThe Everlasting Orgy-porgy of CullinaniaUN Member Scandinavian Liberal Paradise "To boldly go where no man has gone before"
3. FlagThe Teeny Tiny Land of MaxipolitaniaUN Member New York Times Democracy "Omnia Sunt Communia !"
4. FlagThe Democratic Republic of MandlandiaUN Member Father Knows Best State "Right or wrong: Mandlandia!"
5. FlagThe Holy Empire of JordansphereUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Non mollare mai"
6. FlagThe Republic of FerrarilandiaUN Member Father Knows Best State "La vita non è un regalo, è solo un prestito."
7. FlagThe Holy Empire of EsthUN Member Iron Fist Consumerists "Forever loyal to the Holy Emperor"
8. FlagThe Beer drinking pacifist state of HerrenhausenUN Member Left-Leaning College State "Reinheitsgebot is holy!"
9. FlagThe Grand Duchy of Monte di ProcidaUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Rattatio Pallorum Omnia Mala Fugat"
10. FlagThe Free Land of EndalorUN Member Civil Rights Lovefest "Freedom in nature."

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# Nation UN Category Motto
11. FlagThe Big Community of Piru PiruUN Member Capitalist Paradise "In Piru Piru we trust"
12. FlagThe Surrealist Republik of UrsinoUN Member Left-Leaning College State "non crederci, siamo solo prostitute dell'arte."
13. FlagThe Democratic Republic of OlympicUN Member Corporate Bordello "Citius, altius, fortius"
14. FlagThe Dictatorship of Sandra Sistkova Father Knows Best State "Ricordati di provarci sempre"
15. FlagThe Holy Empire of CornaggiaUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Bella!!!"
16. FlagThe Frozen Dark Empire of The Silent EnigmaUN Member Libertarian Police State "Destroy...Erase...Improve!"
17. FlagThe Dominion of Nebulous AvalonUN Member New York Times Democracy "Ciò ChE la ReALtà Ci NeGa, la FaNTaSia Ce lo ReGaLA"
18. FlagThe Free Land of Anarchist groupsUN Member Civil Rights Lovefest "Né dio né stato né servi né padroni "
19. FlagThe United Socialist States of CentobuchiUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "ROCK N' ROLL!!!!!!!!!"
20. FlagThe United Socialist States of Borgo CiodoUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Poveri ma belli"

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# Nation UN Category Motto
21. FlagThe Repubblica Co - Operativa of RisorgimentoUN Member Democratic Socialists "W VERDI "
22. FlagThe Empire of ZollarUN Member Father Knows Best State "Live and Die for the Zollar empire"
23. FlagThe Empire of ByzantiusUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Spes Ultima Dea "
24. FlagThe Dominion of Vonsoralys Corrupt Dictatorship "*Unreadable writing*"
25. FlagThe Sacro Impero Frazenato of Giacomo il GrandeUN Member Father Knows Best State "Lunga vita all'imperatore frazenato"
26. FlagThe Republic of MondelloUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "In medio stat virtus"
27. FlagThe Holy Empire of ValorosiUN Member Iron Fist Socialists "Niente è impossibile se si ha il tempo per riflettere!"
28. FlagThe Republic of MeifiUN Member Democratic Socialists "I Meifi sono i migliori"
29. FlagThe Fiefdom of JudalixUN Member Psychotic Dictatorship "bibe, usque ad fundum, vel medico prohibendum!"
30. FlagThe Colony of Petite Terre de FranceUN Member Capitalist Paradise "Liberté pour notre île"

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# Nation UN Category Motto
31. Spawnvd (ex-nation)
32. FlagThe Oppressed Peoples of MarcxUN Member Libertarian Police State "Oh i kill all"
33. FlagThe United Socialist States of Nuova Centobuchi Left-wing Utopia "Hasta la victoria siempre"
34. FlagThe Democratic Republic of Thyr qvas kaUN Member Father Knows Best State "-"
35. FlagThe Republic of Ricordati di morire Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Ricordati di morire"
36. FlagThe Republic of Cerone Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Io sono...e a me basta sapere di essere"
37. FlagThe Community of Tridentvm Democratic Socialists "Viva Trento"
38. FlagThe Republic of GaleazziUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Ma vaffanculoo sti rompi cojoni !"
39. FlagThe Republic of VicusMercati Democratic Socialists "Daje regaz!"
40. FlagThe Republic of Nuovo gollustro Democratic Socialists "Ass"

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# Nation UN Category Motto
41. FlagThe Republic of Bisteccone Galeazzi Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Porta pure du' baldraccone..."
42. FlagThe Republic of ZattoneUN Member Father Knows Best State "Usa la fionda contro tutti !"
43. FlagThe Confederacy of Free Bauhaus Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Independence through Force"
44. FlagThe Protectorate of Ambasciata Irlandese Father Knows Best State "Nice"
45. FlagThe Republic of DhaturaUN Member Compulsory Consumerist State "Lo chiamavano Trinità"
46. FlagThe Republic of Hot BananasUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Meglio tenè o cazone rott ncul ca o cul rutt ndò cazone"
47. FlagThe United States of Vigna ClaraUN Member Iron Fist Consumerists "Memento audere semper"
48. FlagThe Glasses of Ciccio Graziani Corporate Police State "Maleddetto te e chi non ti ha ammazzato nella culla!!!!"
49. FlagThe Republic of Bel Paese Capitalist Paradise "In freedom we trust"
50. FlagThe Holy Empire of Lightbringer Corrupt Dictatorship "Nel mondo c'è chi lotta e chi fugge, io lotto!"

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# Nation UN Category Motto
51. FlagThe Republic of SenigalliaUN Member Capitalizt "Per Aspera ad Astra"
52. FlagThe Fatal Error of NihilandiaUN Member Left-Leaning College State "Viva l'alcool"
53. FlagThe Repubblica Padana of Pontida Compulsory Consumerist State "Alegher,alegher che'l bus del cù l'è negher!"
54. FlagThe National Satanist Republic of OssimoroUN Member Compulsory Consumerist State "Wille zur Macht"
55. FlagThe Evil And Villain Dominion of Don Pepe De Vega Corporate Police State "Strike... and fast !!!!"

Yes but, apart from what happened today wich we don't know much of, i think it is ridicoulous that spawnvd, as soon as he became delegate a couple of days ago kicked 46 nations from Italia. And most of them were not even part of the UN !

I can perfectly imagine that spawnvd kicked the remaining nations in order to re-found the region, but if someone else hacked the region this would be the consequence of his crazy dictatorship and his "kicking-everyone-I dont like" policy. I just hope "crazy girl" will stay delegate for a long time, so that everyone will have the chance of being part of the region, without being scared of getting banned.

Lombardo-veneta

here's an idea, make me founder :p

here's an idea, make me founder :p

I'll have to personaly lobby with the mods to prevent this...everyone knows the Dutch can't be trusted!

I should know realy, because I am one. ^_^

What Lombardo_veneta says is not really!!
He is a enemy of Italian democracy . This is not a first time
that he steal spawn's password to fu...k us!
Please don't listen to Lomabardo_Veneta!!

SOrry but I dont speek english , adn for me is very difficulty to write this words but i can't not make it!

Hi all,
first of all let me excuse for all the problems our region is creating to the moderating team.
I just ask you if it's possible to check SpawnVD's IPs because i fear he's been hacked for the second time in two weeks.
This behaviour from his part sound suspect to me because he has been regional delegate before and he never did things like this.

Thanks for your attention.

It's happened again... the milanes lobby stole spawnvd's password and kicked out the nations in ITALIA. There's only a solution: Give us a founder!
So we'll can have region without password and without Lombardo-Veneta (do you remember? he was banned from the UN beacause he controlled many nations that endorsed him) and his friends!

spawnVD state owner is in vacation in france and will not come back to Italy until the first week of march. everyone in the region knows this.
so i believe he is not following regional happenings in this period. check his last ips and verify if they come from france or not. but in my opinion this is another one of the sadly usual hacking attempts.

anyways, don't you find strange that lombardo-veneta doesn't look to get involved anymore in our region affairs - after being caught in evedence of a un-multis and consequently banned - only to reappear in these ambiguous circumstances?
don't you find strange he is always the first to notice events like that of this morning?
someone lost his power after gaining it through months and months of cheating, and now he is desperately trying to come back, no matter the means.

frankly, we are all tired of this.

nobody was kicked out of the region because our delegate disliked him, the banned regions were only the once- (and wish to be still-) evidently cheating ones.
so it looks to me clear as light who is finding himself not in a good situation and is trying in any way to come back to attention.

idea why dont the mods just disperse every one in the region to the feeders, then make it impossable to refound

idea why dont the mods just disperse every one in the region to the feeders, then make it impossable to refound

That's for the best laugh I've had all morning! :p

Hi.

I want to testify that all the last region owners (maxipolitania, nihilandia, mandlandia, Cullinania) are saying the true.

This is the second or the third time that somebody stoles the UN delegate password and ejects everyone from the region.

How it's possible that this guy has not been banned already, also after all the "fake" UN nations they have created and keeped in this region for months?? We just would like to roleplay without cheaters around, if this is not going to stop I think I will stop playing like many others I fear already did.

I am tired, f***ng tired of those cheaters, and many people already left the game because of those guys behaviour.

It's not a matter of political parties, there are good and honest players with every political side in Italia. This is not a discussion/war between different political parties, this is a stupid quarrel between cheaters and people wanting to play a fair game.

And Lombardo-Veneta is just telling plain lies, he is the childish guy that cheated for months allowing his friends to openly insult people in the lodgebook and now he is trying to do all of this just to come back and "ruin" over a region of puppets.

Ok, now I am sick and tired of all this.

First, I ask moderators to please check my ip to see if I have logged as spawnvd, so everyone will be convinced that I don't know anything about what happened.

Second, why should you have a founder ? so that you can kick everyone out like spawnvd did a couple of days ago ( 46 out 92 nations were kicked for no reason!!!) I am sorry but we are trying to play a game, we do not want to get kicked because you do not like us !

Third : I can understand that someone luckily found spawn's password once,
but i find it hard to imagine that he managed to hack in twice ! I am
quite suspicious that spawn has 2 ip addresses and uses one of them
to kick everyone and then blame us.

Fourth: The whole region is tired of 4-5 people (the ones that posted above) who, as soon as they get into power, kick+ban 46 nations and then put a password !! If any of these people who got kicked effectively hacked spawnvd, I can sort of understand their angerness towards this dictator.

Many thanks for your time,

Kind Regards,

Lombardo-veneta

First, please explain everybody why are we still un members and you are not.

Second, let's suppose as you say spawnVD kicked that 46 people without a reason and so and so. Then, why should he have banned all the other nations this morning? Sudden crazyness? He wanted to rule in a region when he is one and alone? And why? Argumentations needed, please.

Third, the whole region - and not just 4-5 of us, just ask everyone if you don't believe me - has decided to ban that 46 "nations" as the result of rehiterated violations in game rules (and in fact they were all nations recently ejected from UN) and massive racist and personal insults on the regional board. Needless to say, guess who was behind all those "nations"? This question obviously leads back to point number one.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392810
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393869
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394274
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=382428


Have i to say something more?
I think not, they did it twice!
I don't know exactly how but if a mod what to contact me privately i'll be glad to expose what, i think, happened.

Elese this is my version:
Spawn now is in FRANCE so it's quite difficult difficult he was connected in these days. Infact he untill jesterday he didn't connected from 3 days... If this is not true you can see his list of IPs and understand that something is strange again... you can trust me as i showed a lot of times before, i say always the turth.

another thing, before the reset please controll all the ips in ITALIA they can try to take over it with un multis.

yes, please do so.. i would not like anyoone to get in with multis.. but also tomorrow morning one faction will become delegate again and definetly kick some of the nations who came back! please stop them!
Also i found out that not many people post here to support our view, because they gave them the wrong link on purpose ! this is why noone is ever writing here apart from them!

Lombardo-veneta

'kinda hard to kick anyone now for the delegate :p

link to this thread was on the regional board yesterday, crazygirl saw it.

I don't want to write one more time. Mod team... i have not words...

chill out people.

i'm working on getting a list of natives, a friend gave me some older xmls, and i got yesterday's un report. this way all the natives can elect a delegate without outside influence. the modly founder is to make sure things will go fair ;)

It's really a pity that no moderators can read Italian because otherways they could read in the region log how everybody and not "just 4-5 people" are sick and tired of the way Lombardo-Veneto and his friends (if he wasn't, must have been some friend of him) are creating havok and cheating.

It's unbelievable and childish and you are costantly telling lies on this board and on the region forum, I cannot believe the moderators cannot see or are confused by your smart lies, really you are born to be a true politician.

Another lie is this about the wrong link, I came here following the link that was posted. Crazy girl should have seen that the link was correct. Can't you ever stop lying even in such small things??

I am sorry, but you will never manage to convince mods that we are "enemies" of the region, you are quite silly if you think that mods will be convinced by a lier.

The fact that spawnvd and mandlandia gave to most people the wrong link is a FACT. They did it through msn messenger, mirc and telegrams.

The only think the region is tired of, is the fact that they get kicked every week by some crazy delegate who kicks everyone he dislikes.

Crazy Girl : To me the solution is perfectly fine, but I would like you to make sure somehow that the delegate will not be able to kick Any native. Otherwise the delegate may restart kicking people and they will not be able to re-enter because of the regional password.

And secondly, there are still many natives who got kicked and still have to rejoin, so please make sure they stay inside and do not get labelled as "Non-natives" by the founder and therefore get kicked. I am talking about most of the 46 nations that were kicked last week by spawnvd, not the ones that fot kicked yesterday.

Kind Regards,

Lombardo-veneta

great, seems like both sides agree to my solution.

and no worries, i have some older data from a friend of mine.

now stop arguing for now till i post a list of natives here? ;)

thanks! :D

Only the natives will be accepted in the Region. This is the new rule...
I am talking about most of the 46 nations that were kicked last week by spawnvd, not the ones that fot kicked yesterday.
They were not natives but invaders, we asked to mods before doing that.

not 46 nations were invaders you!! maybe 10-20 but certainly not 46 !!!

Might it make sense to calm down and wait until a Moderator examines the case here? Arguing isn't helping either side any, that I can see.

Scusate ma loro hanno rivendicato l'attacco dunque sappiamo chi è stato.
Si chiedono seri provvedimenti.
Qualcuno spieghi la rivendicazione ai mod che loro stessi hanno fatto.

okay, here's a temporary list from the UN report:

nations on the UN report:

Shiny Cats
Cullinania
Maxipolitania
Mandlandia
Jordansphere
Ferrarilandia
Esth
Herrenhausen
Monte di Procida
Endalor
Piru Piru
Ursino
Olympic
Sandra Sistkova
Cornaggia
The Silent Enigma
Nebulous Avalon
Anarchist groups
Centobuchi
Borgo Ciodo
Risorgimento
Zollar
Byzantius
Vonsoralys
Giacomo il Grande
Mondello
Valorosi
Meifi
Judalix
Petite Terre de France
Marcx
Nuova Centobuchi
Thyr qvas ka
Ricordati di morire
Cerone
Tridentvm Democratic
Galeazzi
VicusMercati
Nuovo gollustro
Bisteccone Galeazzi
Zattone
Free Bauhaus
Ambasciata Irlandese
Dhatura
Hot Bananas
Vigna Clara
Ciccio Graziani
Bel Paese
Lightbringer
Senigallia
Nihilandia
Pontida
Ossimoro
Don Pepe De Vega

TripleH (shows up in January 10th and 29th xml)

If you think your nation should be included, post it's name here and i'll check it on the xml feeds I got

19 February, 2005
January 29, 2005
January 10, 2005

No flaming, complaining etc till this list is definate, please.

I hope the others will be banned.

proballi you forgot to put me in,i'm in the region since 2 months or so and i had been banned,plz add me
thx


triple h

you have been banned by madilandia before what happened...

Che cosa ci fate mod con quella lista di nazioni ?
What do you (game moderator of NS) do with the nations list ?

no, we do not agree with this list. The list you chose, in fact, has been made on a day when the dictator had ALREADY KICKED all the nations of the other faction and had already put the regional password. If you would like to have the REAL list of the region ITALIA, you should be able to find one of before november.

If you use this list, you will just give total power to one faction, and nothing will be solved, because we will never have the chance of join italia again.

If you want, i can make you a small list of nations that will re-join italia.. but the delegate must not have the chance of kicking us, otherwise everything will be all over again.

Please find an alternative solution, because we cannot stand this situation anymore, we want to stay free and safe in ITALIA !!

Yours Sincerely,

Lombardo-veneta

I am Italian. I stay in Italia. I arrived in Italia in January but I am Italia

Io sono Italiano. Io voglio restare in Italia. Io sono arrivato in Italia a gennaio ma sono italiano.

Secondo Lombardo Veneto dovrei essere bannato vi pare giusto ?

Even fictional Italian politcs is fun to watch, pass the popcorn! :)

ok,i've been banned,but so with this list we solve nothing, we just keep them ban everyone they don't want in their region with stupid excuses,i had been banned for "strange endorsments",only because i was the one with more endors,after them,plz readd me and all the nations banned, some friends of mine gave me the endorsment and they had been kicked with no motivation, you can check the ip of gessate,urucai,or hernancrespo, they were all regular un nations,and they had been banned, you can't let them win this battle by keeping only the regions in the list by now

thanks

tripleh

A suggest to All...

-To The Moderators, don't do a Regional Mamber, Founder of the the Region, but only remove the power of ejection from the delegate... so the delegate will be only the representative of the Region to The UN.

-To The players of the region: end of this stupid "civil war" and finally grow... This game in Italia are degenerating.
Thanks to all.

Un Suggerimento a tutti...
Ai moderatori di non fare un membro della Regione il fondatore, bisogna solo togliere il potere di espulsione dal delegato, così il delegato sarà solo il rappresentante della regione presso l'ONU
Ai giocatori della regione, finirla con questa stupida guerra civile e crescere finalmente. rendetivi conto che il gioco nella nostra regione sta degenerando.

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Nuovo Rinascimento = Repubblica Co-Operativa di Risorgimento.

Amico lo so bene che la guerra è stupida ma basta solo che ci sia un po' di pace senza arrivare alla dittura che significa prendere in giro gli altri che giocano e che fanno i razzisti nei confronti degli altri...

Se quelli smettono di fare i razzisti forse qualche possibilità di diialogo hanno altrimenti.....

I ask which the offends are end... please....

Amico lo so bene che la guerra è stupida ma basta solo che ci sia un po' di pace senza arrivare alla dittura che significa prendere in giro gli altri che giocano e che fanno i razzisti nei confronti degli altri...

Se quelli smettono di fare i razzisti forse qualche possibilità di diialogo hanno altrimenti.....
Babelfish says: Friend I know it well that the war is stupid but enough only that is a little peace without to arrive to the dittura [?] that it means to take in turn the others that they play and that they make the racists in the comparisons of the others... If those stop to perhaps make the racists some possibility of diialogo [dialogue?] they have otherwise.....
While I appreciate that this is a regional problem among Italian speakers, most (if not all) of the moderation staff are native English speakers. If you wish a ruling, a 'best effort' translation of comments would be prudent.
Mentre apprezzo che questo è un problema regionale fra gli altoparlanti italiani, più (se no tutta il) del personale di moderazione sono degli altoparlanti nativi inglesi. Se lei desidera una decisione, un 'lo sforzo migliore' la traduzione di commenti sarebbe prudente.

What happened to TripleH is simply he was banned, as once others did in the region Europe, because he was simply playing with endorsement-exchange to takeover us. So we had not chooses.
After what Nuovo Rinascimento wrote is very stupid i think. If we don't have the powers on OUR region we can't change nether the log and we have to tollerate "nations" as Nuova Brennaroska who insult all the time the south italian Users. Now i wonder that Nuovo Rinascimento closed his eyes and refused to see what happenes in our region. As you saw ther's this group of cheaters who toke the second time the password of our Delegate, SpawnVD, and ejected all the nations from the region. As they wrote in that message that i traslated to you, hack.
Now.... i think the only list of nations we have to keep is that list who you had that day.

If you want, i can make you a small list of nations that will re-join italia.. but the delegate must not have the chance of kicking us, otherwise everything will be all over again.
I hope you won't hear the minaces of this cheater, he that accuse us of "dictatorship" was delegate of our region for MOUNTS with UN MULTIS, do you want the evidences, misters Mod, look on the treads that i posted at the first, read remember and juge. This is what i ask to all "OPEN YOUR EYES", please.

The moderators have already opened their eyes, Dear Ossimoro, and have already seen the truth. Spawnvd kicked 46 nations without giving any explanation and most of them were controlled by normal users who only wanted to play the game and do not know anything about all this !

You guys have ABUSED the delegate power to kick nations, and I hope you will be punished by the mods by taking away permanently this power! This seems to me the only possible solution that could satisfy everyone, because noone will be kicked from the region and noone will have the possibility to abuse the powers of the delegate.

Finally, what tripleh did is perfectly correct !! endorsement-exchange is not a crime, and only because he stands on our side, this does not mean he is wrong! WE LIVE IN DEMOCRACY, YOU KNOW ?!?


Lombardo-veneta

Dear Ossimoro, you are forgetting that in past, in NATIONSTATES, Delegate haven't the power of ejection from region.
I'm not against your revolution... i recognize it, but i want only the end of this "Civil war".
...and oly without the power of ejection well be in peace

Caro Ossimoro tu stai dimenticando che in passato i delegati delle regioni non avevano il potere di espellere.
Io non sono contro la rivoluzione, dato che la riconosco, ma io voglio solo la fine di questa "guerra civile".
e solo con un delegato senza potere di espulsione potremo vivere in pace.
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Repubblica Co-Operativa di Risorgimento

Delegates had not powers only if in the region ther's a founder. Else they always had.


I delegati non hanno diritto di espulsione solo se il fondatore glielo toglie. Ecco cosa non hai capito forse.

simple: Italia: with delegate but Delegate without power of ejection. Italia without founder.
this is my simple propose.... and i think that mods can do this to stop ours complains

semplice: Italia con il Delegato che è senza il potere di espulsione, quindi inutile avere un fondatore.
la mia proposta è semplice e penso che i moderatori possono così fermare le nostre lamentele.

simple: Italia: with delegate but Delegate without power of ejection. Italia without founder.
this is my simple propose.... and i think that mods can do this to stop ours complains.
So basically, you want us to change the game mechanics for one region, so that your opposing factions don't have to settle their arguments like adults.

A) It's hardly simple.
B) It's highly unlikely.

what ossimoro's saying is absurd, he's telling they've kicked me because i was asking other members of the region to exchange endorsments, while spawnvd, "their" regional delegate did the same with every nation coming in, i know because he did this with me and,i'm sure, with urucai, prolly also with other nations...they're excuses are ridiculous, they just kicked me out because i had more endors than the others,i didn't ask to nations in other regions to endors me, just the one in italia, this is a simple explanation of their way of ruling, i simply did nothing in italy to make me unfriendly to the others, by me they're just in search of power

i totally agree with tripleH, please do not use that list, dont promote dictatorship in our region.. i do not want to get kicked forever by a bunch of crazy people..

Even fictional Italian politcs is fun to watch, pass the popcorn! :)

You're absolutely right.

But being Italian, it's also disgusting, and I really feel ashamed about the Italian politics, both in real life and here.

Having to fight costantly versurs cheaters and lamers, lyers and password thieves not only in real life but also here is really making you willing to hit the wall with your head :headbang: and quit.

I've been teached by my parents that lying is a bad thing and you should feel ashamed to lie. Those cheaters seem unable to feel ashamed to lie costantly, and they seem to be even proud to lie... such sadness. :(

i totally agree with tripleH, please do not use that list, dont promote dictatorship in our region.. i do not want to get kicked forever by a bunch of crazy people..

Don't you ever ever ever feel a little ashamed to lie every time you open your mouth? :confused:

Look, if you are capable of finding 1 lie in what I said, I will shut up forever. please stop getting ridicolous..

Only one lie???
You said that we didn't post the right url, but we have the testimoniance of Crazy girl that we posted right.
You said that we're dictatorial when you've been delegate for 8mounths using puppets. You said we kick nations for no reasons from our region when you know that TripleH sent a lot of telegrams to make they endorse...
Clean you mounth or, in this case, keybord.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risorgimento
simple: Italia: with delegate but Delegate without power of ejection. Italia without founder.
this is my simple propose.... and i think that mods can do this to stop ours complains.


So basically, you want us to change the game mechanics for one region, so that your opposing factions don't have to settle their arguments like adults.

A) It's hardly simple.
B) It's highly unlikely.

This is right. I think ther's only few intelligent solutions:
1) ban these persons from the game, they have static ip so it's easy.
or
2) ban the persons who were not in thi first list from our region.
or
3) put someone of us as founder.

The region really is not split in 2 sides, ther's this group of poor cheaters who is trying to take over the region because for 8 mounth they had the power there.

Another solution could be to let the mod founder there to not give to these cheaters the possibility to take over our region again.
Or you make our region UNFOUNDABLE closing it forever, so everyone will be free to make another region for italians. Another thing possible is to make of ITALIA a region like The Pacific where all italian regions can make Propaganda.

Else you could simply learn the italian to understand what they say in our region to react for conseguence. If you want to begin i can give you lessons.

Please make us know.

you haven't answered to what i've told, you continue to insist that i sent telegrams to ask for endorsments while Spawnvd did the same, but you didn's ban him,why,ossimoro plz tell me why!and why you didn't ban most of the nations that endorsed spawn with the same motivation,it's ridiculous what you've done to me,or not?

you haven't answered to what i've told, you continue to insist that i sent telegrams to ask for endorsments while Spawnvd did the same, but you didn's ban him,why,ossimoro plz tell me why!and why you didn't ban most of the nations that endorsed spawn with the same motivation,it's ridiculous what you've done to me,or not?


1) SpawnVD didn't send telegrams like you.
2) Noone denonced me other nations, but a lot of people denonced you.
3) You have been delegate for one day only because a lot of nations who endorsed you were UN multis, intestead noone nation who endorsed SpawnVD were UN MULTIS.

Do you like this answer?

Okay, I don't know which Moderator is handling this case, but I, for one, have had ENOUGH of the bickering.

iLock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation