NationStates Jolt Archive


Grippsholm IV

Lost Grippsholm
20-02-2005, 02:34
Right. I might be told that I'm whining for something "that has been going on for weeks" as for when I protested another ruling, but well, I have to, sorry. Grippsholm IV is impersonating me. Is he going to get deleted? Pope Hope's impersonators got deleted. Mine should as well.
Tuesday Heights
20-02-2005, 02:59
Pope Hope's impersonators were also sending out telegrams and using her real name to sign them. :gundge:
Lost Grippsholm
20-02-2005, 13:11
Does this mean Grippsholm IV will be allowed to impersonate me? He uses my flag, my motto, my name ( I have a Grippsholm III nation ) address the troopers under my command as myself and no action is taken?
Komokom
20-02-2005, 13:49
Does this mean Grippsholm IV will be allowed to impersonate me? He uses my flag, my motto, my name ( I have a Grippsholm III nation ) address the troopers under my command as myself and no action is taken?Hmmm, I just had a look, and only saw that they ( Grippsholm IV ) had the similar name, and same flag.

But, no similar motto, animal or currency.

As for the bit of your post I painted in red, if they have done this on a C.H.Q.R.M.B. any-where I suggest you go straight to the Getting Help Page, report the matter, and tick the " copy regional message board info " option should that event still be logged on the R.M.B. in question. I'm not sure if similar name and same flag qualify as insta-change / DEAT from memory of see-ing this happen before.

Of course, if they've telegrammed any-one trying to impersonate you, don't forget to tell them ( Those who might have gotten such a telegram ) to keep the teles, that should be clear cut proof for you to present to Moderation to clear this up.

Oh, forgot to add,Right. I might be told that I'm whining for something "that has been going on for weeks" as for when I protested another ruling, but well, I have to, sorry.Actually, at this time, " GrippsholmIV " only has 40 million for a population, so I'd say its been a bit shorter then " for weeks ". Actually, the economy, amoung other things, calculator here (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php) says its only been around for seven days. Still early days yet, really.
Lost Grippsholm
20-02-2005, 18:35
How come no moderators are taking any action? Pope Hope IX was deleted within a few hours/day ....
Tuesday Heights
20-02-2005, 19:26
How come no moderators are taking any action? Pope Hope IX was deleted within a few hours/day ....

As I said previously, PH IX was going around and immediately impersonating Pope Hope herself.

Tuesday Hieghts, when impersonating me, took longer to actually do it and cause trouble; hence, that nation wasn't deleted until it actively began impersonating me.
Lost Grippsholm
20-02-2005, 20:38
So Grippsholm IV will be allowed to freely strut around and get telegrams incoming that are meant to be addressed by me? That is kinda outrageous and very low handed, how can that be tolerated? It's a clear attempt to confuse people into believing that Grippsholm IV is a puppet of mine.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-02-2005, 20:46
Is there something stopping you from alerting anyone you play with that any and all telegrams etc ought to be sent to your main nation and not your puppets, so as to avoid any misinformation and confusion?

I guess I don't see the point in similarly-named puppets to begin with. If you don't have them, there shouldn't be any problem with someone adding a number to the end of their name, regardless of the fact that it's rather rude to rip off someone's nation like that anyways.

Having folks parody or play with your nation name doesn't have to always be malicious, after all. There's several parody nations that other people have done of my nation out there currently, and they've all been, so far as I can tell, in good humor. I don't have a problem with it.

Point is, until something can be done, or until enough proof exists that he is deliberately going out of his way to disrupt your play and misrepresent past the name alone, take actions to prevent mistakes happening rather than just complaining about it.
I AM NATHICANA
20-02-2005, 20:56
There's several parody nations that other people have done of my nation out there currently, and they've all been, so far as I can tell, in good humor.

Like me. :p
Bread Lady Nathicana
20-02-2005, 21:01
http://www.theorientalcaravan.com/images/Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous2/Samarkand%20woman%20with%20bread1.JPG

Dough....
Euroslavia
20-02-2005, 21:08
One of my friends created a nation called, "The Real Euroslavia" and its motto is, "We're the real Euroslavia, not the other one". It's all in good humor, but when they start impersonating you and messing with your reputation, then its time to report it.

There was also that impersonator, "Elf Lady Nathiciel" or something long those lines, as well as impersonations of Scolopendra and I believe Treznor. I suppose its always good to know that people want to be like you. :p
Treznor
20-02-2005, 21:23
There was also that impersonator, "Elf Lady Nathiciel" or something long those lines, as well as impersonations of Scolopendra and I believe Treznor. I suppose its always good to know that people want to be like you. :p*giggle*

It's not funny.

*snicker*

Really. It isn't.

*chuckle*

It's serious business. If someone is out to defame you by copying your nation's name, motto and flag and such, it can be a real hassle.

*snrk*

It's not flattering at all, really!

...Most of the time.
Lost Grippsholm
21-02-2005, 18:49
Why do I get a feeling I will be deleted on sight if I create a puppet entiteld The Democratic States of Cogitation VIII, motto : Think about it for a moment?

Just a feeling I had.
Tuesday Heights
21-02-2005, 19:13
Because that's different; that's impersonating a moderator, which is a DoS offense. Creating a look-a-like nation isn't a DoS offense.
Jjuulliiaann
22-02-2005, 00:25
My region is the "Union of Independent States" which was founded in July 2003. There is also a region called the "Union of Independant States" which was founded much later. Would it be a region impersonator?
Euroslavia
22-02-2005, 00:50
My region is the "Union of Independent States" which was founded in July 2003. There is also a region called the "Union of Independant States" which was founded much later. Would it be a region impersonator?

It is a pretty generic name, so I really wouldn't consider it an impersonating region, that is, unless you have evidence of it.
Jjuulliiaann
22-02-2005, 02:41
It is a pretty generic name, so I really wouldn't consider it an impersonating region, that is, unless you have evidence of it.
I don't really care about their "impersonation." They are a small region and have done nothing other than the name. I was just wondering.
The Most Glorious Hack
22-02-2005, 06:28
Player impersonation is a 'specific intent' crime. Simply having a similar name can be a fluke, and if they don't actively attempt to impersonate the player, we're not going to act.

Impersonating a Moderator (or Admin) is a 'general intent' crime. Simply making a similarly sounding name is enough for the nation to be deleted.
Couple Questions
22-02-2005, 12:44
Well, here's a juicy one then.... (sorry the small hijack, hopefully it doesn't take more than two posts. Please, only a moderator responces regarding my post, do keep on discussing the main topic ;)).

There's a nation of Cogitatio, 1.5 Billion nation.
There's a moderator Cogitation.
Seeing how long the other nation has been around it would be cruel to delete the nation. It's even in the UN for Pete's sake :confused:
Can the nation be an exception to the rule?
Jjuulliiaann
22-02-2005, 22:33
Well, here's a juicy one then.... (sorry the small hijack, hopefully it doesn't take more than two posts. Please, only a moderator responces regarding my post, do keep on discussing the main topic ;)).

There's a nation of Cogitatio, 1.5 Billion nation.
There's a moderator Cogitation.
Seeing how long the other nation has been around it would be cruel to delete the nation. It's even in the UN for Pete's sake :confused:
Can the nation be an exception to the rule?
I think that as long as it's just the name and he/she doesn't do anything mod-like, it should probably be OK.