NationStates Jolt Archive


Nations and Ownership

Unterwasserseestaat
16-02-2005, 09:08
Ahoy, this is a mildly odd question and this is the closest thing to a Judicial forum as I can fathom, so onward.

I was wondering about the nature of Ownership in the game: it's clear to me that as long as the site exists and I behave myself, I own my particular nation, and any Regions it has founded. But for me the situation gets murkier for UN membership and endorsements. The endorsements I give out are products of my own volition: I clicked on the link to add, and can get rid of them through at my will. It makes sense to me to think of them as my property (steeped in Locke as I am).

But what about other nations' endorsements of my nation? When I turn what's above on its head, my nation's endorsements belong to someone else.

And, of course, why I've been thinking about this is the situation in The North Pacific (and my mind tends to wander, but that's neither here nor there), but to be explicit: I'm _not_ trying to appeal any decision, but rather trying to get an idea of how the game works. I hope that waiting a few weeks makes that clear to all involved and uninvolved.

1. Does my definition of property and endorsements above hold water?
2. If (1), then should the endorsements given to my nation be transferrable in the same way as my nation?

Thanks for any input,
Unterwasserseestaat (xoxo)
Frisbeeteria
16-02-2005, 13:38
Endorsements are 'seals of approval' that belong to the nation that gave them. The endosements you give are yours to take away again, but the reverse is not true. You can't remove one endorsement without removing them all (by abandoning your region or resigning from the UN).

If someone whose positions are abhorrent to you endorses you, you can't selectively remove their 'Seal'. Unlike a visiting embassy whom you may eject upon offense, the Seal of an endorsement must be borne regardless of your desire in the matter.

Therefore I would have to say that endorsements received are most definitely not your property, and therefore should never be transferable by your choice. The only transfer tool in your toolbox is Politics.
Unterwasserseestaat
29-04-2005, 05:53
*Bump* as this is pertinant again.
The Most Glorious Hack
29-04-2005, 06:13
*Requote* as the answer hasn't changed.

Endorsements are 'seals of approval' that belong to the nation that gave them. The endosements you give are yours to take away again, but the reverse is not true. You can't remove one endorsement without removing them all (by abandoning your region or resigning from the UN).

If someone whose positions are abhorrent to you endorses you, you can't selectively remove their 'Seal'. Unlike a visiting embassy whom you may eject upon offense, the Seal of an endorsement must be borne regardless of your desire in the matter.

Therefore I would have to say that endorsements received are most definitely not your property, and therefore should never be transferable by your choice. The only transfer tool in your toolbox is Politics.

*Lock* as this is gravedigging with no point.