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Offensive lyrics are not just limited to rap but all genres of music.

Cracker.

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Cracker is a flame. If he can say "Cracker" then there's no reason why I can't say "jap" or "Mick".

Kahta, you have a consistent pattern of using racially offensive words, and you have been called on it. Now, it appears that you want us to carefully examine every post, correct the potential 'bad words', and purify all the NS forums until they comply with some artificial standard of political correctness. I don't think most of NationStates wants to be put under that sort of microscope.

I examined Ivallice's post history, and he has several other thoughtful and polite comments in threads related to racism. In no other thread that I examined did he use "racially offensive words". Would your post history withstand similar examination?

Cracker is a flame. If he can say "Cracker" then there's no reason why I can't say "jap" or "Mick".
As a white southern male, I can assure you that I don't find the term 'cracker' offensive in almost any context. Furthermore, there is a difference between making a single post with a single, not-particularly-offensive term like 'cracker', and writing paragraph after paragraph extolling the failures of all other ethnic groups but yours.

You have been coming to Moderation and #themodcave quite frequently lately with this sort of complaint. I think you want to prove that a double standard exists on the part of the mods, and you wish to use that as a justification for using "racially offensive words" in your commentary. You should be aware that we can tell the difference between a single use of a single term, and a consistent pattern of trolling and flamebaiting behavior.

I will remind Ivallice that it's inappropriate to attack the poster. I will remind you that this does not give you permission to troll and flamebait with racially offensive words.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team

Might doing that here in Moderation have been a bad idea?

Shut up, Cracker.
hmm 2 posts up
and i also think the use of cracker is a flame akin to me calling some one a ******

I've been in soiuth georgis before, and I sstill have never known Cracker as an insult... however,

4 entries found for cracker.
crack·er Audio pronunciation of "cracker" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krkr)
n.

1. A thin crisp wafer or biscuit, usually made of unsweetened dough.
2. One that cracks, especially:
1. A firecracker.
2. A small cardboard cylinder covered with decorative paper that holds candy or a party favor and pops when a paper strip is pulled at one or both ends and torn.
3. The apparatus used in the cracking of petroleum.
4. One who makes unauthorized use of a computer, especially to tamper with data or programs.
3. Offensive.
1. Used as a disparaging term for a poor white person of the rural, especially southeast United States.
2. Used as a disparaging term for a white person.

As a white southern male, I can assure you that I don't find the term 'cracker' offensive in almost any context. Furthermore, there is a difference between making a single post with a single, not-particularly-offensive term like 'cracker', and writing paragraph after paragraph extolling the failures of all other ethnic groups but yours.


~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team


As a white northern male, I can assure you that being put down for my race is taken seriously around here. If someone called me a cracker, I would respond in turn with an equal racial insult. Also, by your logic, I would be allowed to respond to that flamer with "Shut up nig-er", because I'm not going on for paragraphs and paragraphs about how my race is superior.

As a white northern male, I can assure you that being put down for my race is taken seriously around here. If someone called me a cracker, I would respond in turn with an equal racial insult. Also, by your logic, I would be allowed to respond to that flamer with "Shut up nig-er", because I'm not going on for paragraphs and paragraphs about how my race is superior.
I assume that's where this paragraph comes in:
You have been coming to Moderation and #themodcave quite frequently lately with this sort of complaint. I think you want to prove that a double standard exists on the part of the mods, and you wish to use that as a justification for using "racially offensive words" in your commentary. You should be aware that we can tell the difference between a single use of a single term, and a consistent pattern of trolling and flamebaiting behavior.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8182488&postcount=461

Cracker is a flame. If he can say "Cracker" then there's no reason why I can't say "jap" or "Mick".

or N*****

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8182488&postcount=461

Cracker is a flame. If he can say "Cracker" then there's no reason why I can't say "jap" or "Mick".

you could say jap or mick, but if you siad n***** to a black person, diddnt know the guy and really meant it, he'd either (If your white):
1:Beat your ass
2:At least try to beat your ass
3:Not beat your ass but get 9 other people to beat your ass
4:Tell the whole black community that your racist....then eventualy someone comes and beats your ass

(no win situation)

As a white northern male, I can assure you that being put down for my race is taken seriously around here. If someone called me a cracker, I would respond in turn with an equal racial insult. Also, by your logic, I would be allowed to respond to that flamer with "Shut up nig-er", because I'm not going on for paragraphs and paragraphs about how my race is superior.

Im a northern white male and up north noone gives a shit about racial remarks unless you dont know the person. If your white and someone calls you a cracker, you just laugh it off. If your a black person and someone calls you a n***** you either just laugh it off too or are pissed off for five secons and your alright again

you could say jap or mick, but if you siad n***** to a black person, diddnt know the guy and really meant it, he'd either (If your white):
1:Beat your ass
2:At least try to beat your ass
3:Not beat your ass but get 9 other people to beat your ass
4:Tell the whole black community that your racist....then eventualy someone comes and beats your ass

(no win situation)

Yeah, its what the big trend is right now, its alright to put down whitey, but when whitey says something back, its bad. I think they should look long and hard at who gave them the right to vote, freed them from slavery, and tried to end discimination. History books these days will teach you otherwise, but white men are the ones that have made a great number of the good accomplishments in the last 150 years, even after the 60's, they continued to make them. It wasn't women, but it was men. And it wasn't blackey, it was whitey.

Who enslaved them in the first place;)
Besides, this isn't the place to debate, and your post is doing what Fris said you have a history of doing, try not to prove him right. Take this to general if you want.

I think they should look long and hard at who gave them the right to vote, freed them from slavery, and tried to end discimination. History books these days will teach you otherwise, but white men are the ones that have made a great number of the good accomplishments in the last 150 years, even after the 60's, they continued to make them. It wasn't women, but it was men. And it wasn't blackey, it was whitey.

How stupid can you get?

The only person who should be offended by someone calling Kahta a cracker is a cracker. I mean, who'd want to be associated with Kahta?

I think this entire situation is irrelevant; Kahta, the mods have already told you were you stand. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the Admin, admin@nationstates.net otherwise get over it.

:eek:
Try and keep flaming outside the moderation forum! This is not a good practice, and will most likely get you deleted in the long run.

Here is the thing -

The guy calling you a 'Cracker' has obviously offended you and maybe hurt you, now understand, that pain you feel is how everyone else feels when you use racially offensive words against them. See the lesson here?

Or

You haven't taken any offence to it, and this is a blantant scheme to try and get this guy in trouble.

Or finally

You're trying to fight for your 'equality', but how can you expect equality when you racially insult people yourself?

kahta isnt the only one that takes offence to that term

kahta isnt the only one that takes offence to that term

And your point?

I'm homosexual, and I've learned not to get upset over every thread in General that talks about the subject turning to such posts as:

"HOMOSEXUALS MUST DIE!"

"NO, THEY CAN'T GET MARRIED, OMFG, THEY'RE FREEEEEKS!"

"HOMOSEXUALS ARE [insert your obscence adjective here]."

kahta isnt the only one that takes offence to that term
No but it does appear to be one group of people, notice which one?

What the Hell is wrong with you people?

Debate belongs in General. You received your ruling in the second post.

Yeah, its what the big trend is right now, its alright to put down whitey, but when whitey says something back, its bad. I think they should look long and hard at who gave them the right to vote, freed them from slavery, and tried to end discimination. History books these days will teach you otherwise, but white men are the ones that have made a great number of the good accomplishments in the last 150 years, even after the 60's, they continued to make them. It wasn't women, but it was men. And it wasn't blackey, it was whitey.

I think it is very apparent who kept the vote from them, who kept them as slaves, and treated them as being inferior for a few hundred years on American soil as well, so long as you are talking about history.

"Gee, thank you for recognizing we're human beings." :-p