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United Nations Forum Flamebaiting.

Kamuras
12-02-2005, 05:36
These are posts made in different topics by Asshelmetta. Repeated attempts at flame baiting me. It appears as I do not agree with his friend, he decided to take it unto himself to flamebait me and discredit me in every other topic I posted in.



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Originally Posted by Kamuras
Although i am a passive military nation, i would ask any other nations to please "remove" the rep of vastivia from his position..
He is an unruly facist. Thats reason enough.


Unruly fascist?

Now there's a flame you don't hear every day. Fascists are normally nothing buy ruly. Yep, some of the ruliest people around.

Oh wait, you didn't call him a fascist; you called him an unruly facist!
Is facist some kind of sexual allusion?


Asshelmetta
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Posts: 507 Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamuras
I havent actually read any of the arguements here but

Well, that preamble certainly limits the worth of anything else you had to say.
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Originally Posted by Kamuras
Not quoting but, obviously when there are many moderators it reduces the work and time involved. Id do it if i wasnt a nation(If a nation were to be able to do it, he/she could propose some totally corrupt thing, and approve of it. It does not take that much time to read a proposal and click Approve or Disapprove.


They apparently have very high standards for who they let be a moderator here - and a good thing it is, or we wouldn't have a hundred thousand other people to play this game with. You, with your 24 posts, are in no danger of coming close to those standards any time soon.

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Originally Posted by you
"within jursidiction", very few resolutions deny moral and opinionative rights to other nations. If they do, it may just be a simple break, not hurt the nation much, not forcing a major issue like prostitutism.
Also not that it even matters, i dont see the relevance in why you asked. But obviously since i said "recently", and "Legalization". I mean the Trade industry one. Even though it can be gotten around of, it is still outside of the United Nations Rightful jurisdiction.

Ah, so this is the reason you're attacking this forum? Because you're upset the NSUN passed the Sex Industry Workers Protections act?

I'll bet you didn't read the arguments for and against legalized prostitution, did you? Do you realize that it was legal for a long time under a prior resolution, was recently repealed, and that this resolution reflects the overwhelming will of the nationstates in the NSUN?

You've said enough about it for me to consider your opinion on prostitution juvenile and immoral. Your conceit that your opinion is more important than everyone else's when you haven't even bothered to read the arguments and don't know the basis for everyone else's opinions... well, that's just mind-boggling

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Asshelmetta
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Originally Posted by Kamuras
In a final note, if you disagree with my opinion, do not attempt to discredit me because of it. I could just as easily discredit you for your arguements elsewhere, but i dont.

On a point of fact, I didn't know or care about your opinion about legalized prostitution when I said that your initial statement on this national sovereignty thread discredited whatever opinion you posted after it.

I don't need to stoop to discrediting you because it's so easy to discredit your arguments. If you think you can discredit me somehow because of my arguments on another thread, lay on!

I won't go crying to the moderators about it, that's for sure.
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My comments: Mostly Flamebaits, I find his repeated attempts to bring me in to flaming him to be insulting, and I ask the moderators to just simply tell him to stop. As regardless if i asked him too, he would continue regardless.
The last post he made, obviously his hope that I wouldn’t report him for flamebaiting, which i also find not just to be a flamebait itself, but actually kind of amusing that he thinks im stupid enough to look at it like this "he seems to know more than me, i wont report him cuz ill look stupid"
Quoting "I wont go crying to the mods"
Kamuras
12-02-2005, 05:38
Sorry for the poor format, it didnt past very well here.
I have comments on top, and below of his posts.
From my observations, it looks like a few of the posts were mine, but each post here is exactly as he posted them. None are mine.
Enn
12-02-2005, 05:41
This is the link to the actual topic: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=396244&page=1&pp=15

I would also request moderation of all posters in the topic, including myself. I've been part of the argument with Kamuras for a while. Although I do not see any actual flaming or flamebait, I would prefer for a mod independent of this argument to have a look over it.
Asshelmetta
12-02-2005, 05:42
Yeah. I said I wouldn't come to the mods first with this, but I think this guy has started stalking me in other threads.

I would only ask that the moderation team look at all the posts he's made today in the united nations forum.
Frisbeeteria
12-02-2005, 05:46
Noted. I'll have a look.
Kamuras
12-02-2005, 05:48
Im sorry, but i am inclined to say that you are the one stalking me, i say something, not regarding you at all, and you flamebait me. Any one in his right mind is smart enough to see that your trying to piss me off.
Furthermore, Enn has had little to do with this, and could only offer his opinion on the matter. His opinion cannot be beneficial however, because he has taken a side.
Therfor Enn, without moderator action, i plainly ask that you do nothing more than what you already have, which is state that you believe that it was not flamebaiting.
Enn
12-02-2005, 06:03
Frisbeeteria: Thanks in advance.

Kamuras: Your comment about my opinion not being beneficial is quite frankly distressing to me. All I asked for was a mod looking at all the posts, including mine, and then make a decision. I am concerned that we may have all gone a little overboard in that thread.

But can we just let Fris have a chance to look over the thread first?
Asshelmetta
12-02-2005, 06:04
Im sorry, but i am inclined to say that you are the one stalking me, i say something, not regarding you at all, and you flamebait me.
Every thread you attacked me in tonight, I've been following for days.
It's just coincidence, then, that you happened into every thread I'm active in.
Kamuras
12-02-2005, 06:11
As. Ive been computerless for almost a week now. And im just posting in whatever thread looks interesting or has something to do with me. I dont care about you really.
I just hate it when people try and piss me off to start a fight.

Enn, im saying that because youve sided with him, your opinion "might" not fully take on all the facts. And i would be possibly unfairly judged because of this. I want him to stop flamebaiting me, and possibly others. Not to get more discredit simply for asking the mods to stop some flamebaiting.
Frisbeeteria
12-02-2005, 06:12
I've posted a response here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8177123&postcount=34).

When you ask for a ruling, Kamuras, you need to wait for that ruling to be written. Picking up the argument in Moderation while I was writing does not help your cause.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderating Team
Kamuras
12-02-2005, 06:14
Apologies, i was only responding to the posts of others.

Edit:OH, oh i see, i posted two minutes after you did. The post was typed while you posted. I had no idea that you had said that untill i had posted. Again, my apologies.
Asshelmetta
12-02-2005, 06:15
I've posted a response here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8177123&postcount=34).

When you ask for a ruling, Kamuras, you need to wait for that ruling to be written. Picking up the argument in Moderation while I was writing does not help your cause.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderating Team
Thank you, Frisbeeteria. Sorry you had to be bothered with this.
Kamuras
12-02-2005, 06:17
It is however, a valid posting, still in response to anothers post. I had to defend myself, in order to get a proper ruling.

Edit:I have officially lost confidence in teh moderation team. Clear flamebaiting has been dislooked, and i have been looked down upon for saying someone is childish(this may be considered an unintentional flamebait, or a response if you will)Clearly a warning should have been set, as since i took what he was directly saying to me as a flamebait, obviously it was though...
Anyways, regardless of this poor judgement thank you for your time.
DemonLordEnigma
12-02-2005, 06:22
Kamueras, trust me on this: Drop it. It's best to let it go once a ruling has been made unless you have questions about that ruling.
Kamuras
12-02-2005, 06:25
Yes i know. Just saying that next time i have a problem, Im picking my mod.
"Moderating team" is not meant to look down on all of the mods, it means ive lost stereotypical trust of the Moderators.
DemonLordEnigma
12-02-2005, 06:34
Over a tiny decision such as this? Be glad Fris didn't warn both of you. Hell, I've seen players banned from sites for less.
Asshelmetta
12-02-2005, 06:50
Over a tiny decision such as this? Be glad Fris didn't warn both of you. Hell, I've seen players banned from sites for less.
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Vastiva
12-02-2005, 12:17
It is however, a valid posting, still in response to anothers post. I had to defend myself, in order to get a proper ruling.

Edit:I have officially lost confidence in teh moderation team. Clear flamebaiting has been dislooked, and i have been looked down upon for saying someone is childish(this may be considered an unintentional flamebait, or a response if you will)Clearly a warning should have been set, as since i took what he was directly saying to me as a flamebait, obviously it was though...
Anyways, regardless of this poor judgement thank you for your time.


Yes i know. Just saying that next time i have a problem, Im picking my mod.
"Moderating team" is not meant to look down on all of the mods, it means ive lost stereotypical trust of the Moderators.

Bub, drop the attitude.

They're trusted volunteers, and they're given the power to do their job. You have your ruling. Annoying the moderators is (a) not going to help you (b) will probably hurt you in the long run (c) and no one really wants to hear it.
Plumdanglia
12-02-2005, 16:57
Kamuras I'd like you to know that you are not alone.

I am an opinionated, idiotic child who runs off crying to mummy when others dare argue against me. Some of these lowlifes even have the temerity to consider that they are in the right and I am wrong. Not only that, can you believe that they actually want me to lower myself by reading their posted drivel before enlightening them with my own opinions?

<sob> It's just not fair!

Anyway, if you ever need a shoulder to cry on, I'll be in the padded forum with Napoleon and all the other misunderstood geniuses that the world won't listen to. Hope to see you soon for the mutual exchange of lachrymal fluids.
Frisbeeteria
12-02-2005, 17:02
As this seems to serve no further purpose, iLock.




Damn, been wanting to say that (and mean it) for a year now.
Cogitation
12-02-2005, 17:21
Kamuras I'd like you to know that you are not alone.

I am an opinionated, idiotic child who runs off crying to mummy when others dare argue against me. Some of these lowlifes.... <snip>
You are not helping.

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From http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8176703&postcount=29
It is outside [the] jurisidiction [of the United Nations] because it is the right of the nation to choose that opinionative topic on its own, and not be forced to choose one side.
[Clarifications added by myself. Correct me if I misinterpreted this.]

Incorrect. It is within the jurisdiction of the NationStates United Nations, indeed, it is the very [b]purpose of the United Nations, to legislate on the internal affairs of UN member nations. If the UN wants to legalize prostitution, it can. If the UN wants to cut military budgets, it can. The only restriction under NationStates rules is that you have to find a relevant proposal category for it.

I remind everyone of the proposal rules: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=282176

Okay, I just noticed that I posted through a 19-minute-old lock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
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