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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8130761&postcount=242
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8130703&postcount=222
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8128677&postcount=10
Those sound like trolling to me. The post by Ciryar that was replied in the first one sounds like a flame to me, as well.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8130634&postcount=205
Flaming.
The post by Vittos that was responded to was also a flame, methinks.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126523&postcount=51
Seems like a flame.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126512&postcount=17
Ditto

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126409&postcount=12
Once again.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126452&postcount=15
Would that count as trolling?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8139044&postcount=305
That seems like a borderline flame to me.

Mods? Your call?

Hrm, there seems to be an influx of borderline-flames against Kahta on the last page of the thread about rap music...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8149393&postcount=320
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8149499&postcount=321
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8151103&postcount=322
Of course, very borderline with some of them.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...52&postcount=15
Please Nadkor always tries to get into Irish fights

Ah so trolling is the inticing of people into fights?

Ah so trolling is the inticing of people into fights?
Glossary of Forbidden Actions (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288255)

Trolling: Posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). Also is used to refer to making obviously silly topics that people nonetheless will reply to. (making a case for the proof that teletubbies exist for instance. There will always be someone who feels compelled to post 'No they don't.' Threads like this should just be ignored.)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8130761&postcount=242
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8130703&postcount=222
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8128677&postcount=10
Just someone being racist. Racism is not against the ToS. "I think these people are inferior and this is why." Abhorrent, in my opinion, but legal. Also, merely possibly connecting Kahta (who is a racist) to racist organizations is not flaming--they are not personal insults.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8130634&postcount=205
Flaming.
The post by Vittos that was responded to was also a flame, methinks.
Kahta is an admitted racist (although not the most extreme I've seen). Calling someone something they openly admit to being is not a flame. "I think black people are inferior to white people." "You are a racist."

While there is far less evidence for Vittos being a communist, that invective has lost a lot of power since the McCarthy era. The best response to that is "No, I'm not" or "Yes, I am" and carry on with it. "You're probably a communist." "No, actually, I'm a moderate libertarian."

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126523&postcount=51
Seems like a flame.
Now that is a flame. While "communist" is very difficult to be offended over (being a legitimate ideological stance) and being called a "racist" is hardly a flame when supported by evidence and the admittance of the person being called such, "Fuck you. You're an NWO whore." is a blatant attack on the other and thus a flame.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126512&postcount=17
Ditto

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126409&postcount=12
Once again.
Also a flame--note the use of racial slurs and stereotyping just because Nadkor is Irish. However, Nadkor is taking it well... and Kahta is making himself look the fool by using the wrong flags. Still, he's been warned not to use slurs before, now let's make it official combined with the previous. Official Warning is now

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126452&postcount=15
Would that count as trolling?
It's Kahta being racist again. There are ways to be racist without directly insulting people.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8139044&postcount=305
That seems like a borderline flame to me.
Again, being a jerk, but being a jerk in and of itself is not an offense. Commenting on someone's less-than-standard posting is not a direct attack on the person--while he could have been more diplomatic about it, it is fair that if he cannot understand it, he isn't going to read it and thus isn't going to respond.

Hrm, there seems to be an influx of borderline-flames against Kahta on the last page of the thread about rap music...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...3&postcount=320
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...9&postcount=321
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...3&postcount=322
Of course, very borderline with some of them.
For the second two, Kahta is an admitted racist/elitist and so the shoe fits. For the first, it's "I cannot argue your points because they seem illogical" said in the matter of a jerk--mild condenscension is not flaming, or else racism would naturally be banned from the boards as a result. If there is no personal insult--"You are a whore/fag/[expletive deleted] who [inappropriate action]s your [inappropriate target of action]"--then it is probably not a flame. Statements of truth are also not flames. As it is, sarcasm and satire are fair game.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...52&postcount=15
Please Nadkor always tries to get into Irish fights
Is it just me, or is that link broken? :confused:

*thanks Scolo for changing it to his moderator name* :p

And the link is broken because there are... in there instead of the numbers. I *think* he was referring to a link already posted, http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8126452&postcount=15

Ah, ya, thanks. That's already been dealt with--it's not baiting or 'getting into Irish fights' due to the context. I thought it could've been supporting evidence from a different thread or something.

Ah, thanks Scolo for clearing that up. I'm still a bit new here, so I don't fully know quite what's what yet.

I guess I must remember next time that the Glossary of Forbidden Actions is my friend.

Neo-Anarchists and Kahta, do you two do anything except conduct this immature mod-report war?

Neo-Anarchists and Kahta, do you two do anything except conduct this immature mod-report war?
:confused:
I believe this is the first time I've reported Kahta for anything. I don't think Kahta has ever said a thing about me before.

Maybe you're thinking of somebody else?

What happened here is I'm new and I was confused over the definitions of some things and how strong they should be before being reported, and reported a bunch of things that didn't need to. I think I now understand forum policy a bit better after Scolo's comments and reading the Glossary of Forbidden Actions.

Hmmm.... I've been reading the most recent threads here and most of them seemed to be Kahta reporting the same person loads of times or someone reporting Kahta loads of times... I must have gotten the wrong end of the stick, but he has reported you and now you come up with a massive list of reports including some Kahtas.

Hmmm.... I've been reading the most recent threads here and most of them seemed to be Kahta reporting the same person loads of times or someone reporting Kahta loads of times... I must have gotten the wrong end of the stick, but he has reported you and now you come up with a massive list of reports including some Kahtas.
Ah. Sorry, I'm just a confused newbie that doesn't know what the hell is going on quite yet.

Ah. Sorry, I'm just a confused newbie that doesn't know what the hell is going on quite yet.
lol and you have more posts than me... meh. Kahta seems to attract flaming for some reason, and he does it himself. Best to keep away probably.