NationStates Jolt Archive


Wysteria the victim of griefing, spamming, and identity theft

The Bruce
06-02-2005, 07:48
Greetings to All and Sundry,

When the Mods have only been able to continually delete each new nation and the player responsible only becomes worse after each infraction of the system rules and resulting punishment, it begins to be an intolerable situation for all concerned. This unnecessary oxygen depleter has now gone on to pursue increased identity theft and spam our regional board, with no end to their stupidity in sight.

This began a few weeks ago with excessive spamming of regional happenings all over the NS World with their horde of puppets based in Elvisland and then starting on Feb 28th began the pathetic griefing of both Wysteria and myself because I told him to stop. Each attempt by the Mods to deal with this waste of skin has only resulted in them escalating their childish behavior.

Given that they have come here 5 times in this day alone with their griefing, spamming, and identity theft. Given that they have now decided to target the other nations of Wysteria, I would strongly ask that the Mods please continue their efforts to do something about this individual, since I don’t have the opportunity to take them back behind the woodshed to teach them some proper manners with a two by four.

Because of this player has now chosen to target the other nations of Wysteria with identity theft and griefing, I have finally decided to password protect Wysteria indefinitely. Indefinitely, because obviously this childish player will continue to relentlessly spam, grief, and perform continued identity theft against the players of Wysteria for as long as they are able to access the system.

I appreciate the work that the Mods have done so far in dealing with this offensive individual, deleting somewhere in the neighbourhood of 70 puppets, and would encourage the Mods to continue their efforts in removing this affliction from the NS World. I would also appreciate it if they would inform me when they have a permanent solution so I can then remove the password protection from Wysteria and open the region to immigrating nation states.

The Bruce
Grays Harbor
06-02-2005, 07:57
I, for one, find the situation despicable. That somebody with an appalling lack of both a life and good sense would do this is absolutely deplorable. What they believe they can accomplish, besides driving an otherwise good person mad, is beyond me. Rather reminds me of a mosquito; small, insignificant and annoying. A pity really that someway has not yet been discovered to enable severe electro-shock therapy be sent through the computor to this twit every time he tries to log on to NS.
Quorm
06-02-2005, 08:08
I don't know all the details, but it might be a good idea just to ignore the idiot. People like him usually look especially stupid when noone pays attention to them, and usually get bored if they're ignored. He's obviously doing what he's doing out of a childish desire to get attention, so don't give him what he wants!

Just my two cents.
Nephia
06-02-2005, 08:16
I just wanted to throw in my support behind Bruce (and Equus, for that matter). This spamming we've been subjected to in Wysteria has gone beyond merely annoying.

I appreciate all the work the mods have done in the past few days to help rid us of these children, but it doesn't appear to be over.

Thanks for all your efforts, but please don't stop just yet.
Skoda Drivers
06-02-2005, 15:57
I hope this is not off topic but a similar thing is going on in Wyndia with one player reporting his password stolen twice and one 'non_native' returning time and again with different puppets spamming.

I think I will try the 'ignore' technique with the spammer but its worrying that someone had their password taken, he said he has been told his password is his own responsability.

Hope I didn't hijack your thread but just saying this stuff is going on elsewhere too.
Ankhmet
06-02-2005, 16:04
All those idiots who make zillions of spammy puppets really piss me off. Free Wysteria from the scourge of spamming and id theft!
Treznor
06-02-2005, 18:28
Having spoken with The Bruce and resided in his region exclusively for the past two years, I'm aware of just how tolerant he is and how much abuse it takes for him to take this kind of step. I'm only aware of a request like this once or twice before. It is the first time, to my knowledge, that he has placed indefinite password protection on the region as it goes against everything that he stands for.

I don't know what can be done about this, but I can hope that the offender in question can be IP-banned so he is prevented from heaping more abuse on good folk like The Bruce and Equus.

Treznor's Player
The Bruce
08-02-2005, 08:38
My Greetings to All and Sundry,

After the region of Wysteria was password protected to keep this relentless spammer out, while the Moderators looked into permanently removing them from the system, they have continued their spamming ways. Today, this individual created a host of new identity theft puppets to harass the nations of Wysteria with nations that mocked their own. I understand the Mods have nuked many if not all of them today.

Grande Elector Bruce

The Green and Pleasant Dominion of The Bruce
Komokom
08-02-2005, 09:32
A pity really that someway has not yet been discovered to enable severe electro-shock therapy be sent through the computor to this twit every time he tries to log on to NS.This was brought up in relation to the N.S.U.N. in Nation States 2 as a concept already ...

<_<

>_>
Liverpool England
09-02-2005, 01:31
The Bruce, good luck in keeping them out. I must symphatise with both you and Equus, and Wysteria in general and hope that the mods will sort this out... I'm assuming they're not IP-banning due to him/her being on a proxy... *sigh*
Equus
10-02-2005, 01:46
Hello mods!

Thanks for keeping an eye on our villian and DEATing him when he appears.

Any chance we can get an update on what's happening with the 'permanent solution' Myrth mentioned?
Kamadhatu
10-02-2005, 06:13
Hello,
I received rather a rude telegram today from someone impersonating the Bruce:

"I am an other nation,that the bruce gonna kill very soon
but i would like to tell you ,that elvisland has been
devasteted,by this imbecile call the bruce.We were 22
players ,playing with others region and the bruce came
in elvisland without any reason,and put a menace message
on our board to never come in wysteria.I made a grief
to the moderator,but this fu..k n bruce had the power to
delate all our nations in elvisland.I declared the war
to this crasy bruce.Don't you think that it is stange
all those nations on your board ceased to exist?It is not
fair that this asshold have so much power.
friendly,
The one who hates the bruce"

It was signed 'the kingdom of Bruce terminator'.

Besides being rude, the guy's obviously illiterate.

I just wanted to bring this to your attention. Thanks for all your good work.

Kamadhatu
Ankhmet
10-02-2005, 14:06
Subnet IP.

Ban,ban,ban!
Equus
10-02-2005, 17:50
Hello,
I received rather a rude telegram today from someone impersonating the Bruce:

"I am an other nation,that the bruce gonna kill very soon
but i would like to tell you ,that elvisland has been
devasteted,by this imbecile call the bruce.We were 22
players ,playing with others region and the bruce came
in elvisland without any reason,and put a menace message
on our board to never come in wysteria.I made a grief
to the moderator,but this fu..k n bruce had the power to
delate all our nations in elvisland.I declared the war
to this crasy bruce.Don't you think that it is stange
all those nations on your board ceased to exist?It is not
fair that this asshold have so much power.
friendly,
The one who hates the bruce"

It was signed 'the kingdom of Bruce terminator'.

Besides being rude, the guy's obviously illiterate.

I just wanted to bring this to your attention. Thanks for all your good work.

Kamadhatu

I just wanted to add that several other nations in Wysteria have reported receiving this same telegram.

Thanks.
Texan Hotrodders
10-02-2005, 17:55
I just wanted to add that several other nations in Wysteria have reported receiving this same telegram.

Thanks.

Hmmmm. I hope they didn't send it to my nations in Wysteria. *runs off to check*

[Edit: Neither of my nations got that telegram. I suppose the griefer is somewhat selective. Or lazy.]
Equus
11-02-2005, 01:46
[Edit: Neither of my nations got that telegram. I suppose the griefer is somewhat selective. Or lazy.]

I think we're just lucky that he doesn't know how to write up a script to send the telegrams to everyone.
Lictoria
11-02-2005, 04:23
I got two telegrams. One was from bruce terminator, the same as a telegram a lot of people have been getting lately. Another was from the same guy, impersonating the Holy Empire of Equus (not doing particularly well), telling me that we should rally against The Bruce. I telegrammed him back and said that he should just let it be. I just opened my TG's, and he replied, apologising, but saying he was going to keep it up anyway. I was told to report it. I feel sorry for the guy. No respect for himself, and his entire region was made up of puppet nations. But then again, I wasn't here when The Bruce did this whole "mass genocide" thing the crazy man's all on about. He could use a spellcheck, too. ;)
The Bruce
11-02-2005, 08:08
Just another day, another chapter in the spamming, griefing, and identity theft by a single player that has plagued Wysteria for the last two weeks. Today it was create a nation pretending-mocking Equus and sending anti-Wysterian telegrams throughout the region. This individual has made it a point to especially target anyone posting on the Civic HQ Board and commit identity theft against them to send griefing telegrams to various players in Wysteria.

After getting told several times that the Moderators were looking into a more permanent solution than just Mod bombing the expendable nation of the day created by this Player, I was surprised to receive a message that appeared to contradict this intent.

I was told to keep feeding the Mods the names of the new nations of this player, as they emerge (which is good), since they have a delete on sight order put on them. But then I was also told that if they got worse the Mods would consider enacting a permanent solution against this player. I was a bit taken aback by this statement, considering what Wysterians have had to put up with lately from the annoying individual targeting our region.

Worse! How much worse than a sustained, daily campaign of spamming, identity theft, and griefing could you get. It’s forced the closure of our borders by password protection (after this player spammed us 5 times in the same day). It’s caused some nations to leave the region because they don’t like the atmosphere that this campaign of hate has created. Really, short of peeing on Max Barry’s shoes I’m not thinking that they could really get much worse.

The Bruce
Myrth
11-02-2005, 21:12
We have put a more extreme solution into place. Some nations may slip through, so please bear with us.
Equus
11-02-2005, 23:53
YAY! Thanks Myrth!

Very, very appreciated!

I just received a spam from "Genocide of the Bruce", but it was dated three hours ago and the sender was already dead by the time I saw it. Here's hoping it's the last one to slip through. :)
The Bruce
12-02-2005, 09:48
My Greetings to All and Sundry,

I’d like to thank the Moderators for their “final solution” in dealing with the offending player who was spamming our region for the last two weeks. Hopefully, this will be the end of the annoyance we’ve had to deal with and things can go back to what passes as normal in our green and pleasant region.

And of course thanks for dealing with the spammers who took a run at the region as soon as got rid of the password protection on Wysteria. Hopefully, there will be a bit of peace after this and less headaches for you folks to deal with.

Grande Elector Bruce

The Green and Pleasant Dominion of The Bruce
Equus
12-02-2005, 18:01
I regret to say that I received the following TG this morning from a nation called Scoopatak. The first part is a quote of the message I posted above:

YAY! Thanks Myrth!

Very, very appreciated!

I just received a spam from "Genocide of the Bruce", but it was dated three hours ago and the sender was already dead by the time I saw it. Here's hoping it's the last one to slip through

Scoopatack: no there is one left ,asshold!
translate this;
vous gagner un bataille,mais pas la guerre,
je vais travailler a une immense attaque dans 2 semaines.
tu peux manger de la marde hostie de trou de cul.

-------------------

In case you don't read French, the English translation of the above is: "you've won the battle, but not the war,
I will mount a huge attack in two weeks.
you can eat shit [something] asshole"

At least I think 'marde' is supposed to be 'merde', it's possible it could be something else. My grasp of insulting Quebecois slang could be better. Anyway, the TG is still in my box so you can verify.
Myrth
12-02-2005, 18:21
As I telegrammed to you, once in a blue moon something goes wrong with the deletion process and the nation becomes undeletable. Easy enough to fix though: I just cleared its password and e-mail so it will die of natural causes in 28 days.
Infinitus
16-02-2005, 06:20
Looks like there's another case of Elvislander invasion in Wysteria. I copied and pasted from our regional board with the previous post so you could see where it is.


3 hours ago The Rationalist Scholar-State of Zwittermark SECOND in the region for smartest citizens? This will not do. We're doubling the budget for education, opening a dozen new universities, and have begun recruiting brilliant scientists and teachers from around the planet.
83 minutes ago The Fiefdom of Hyjerty the revange of elvisland is coming soon


Thought I should let you know. Having this guy around is quite annoying, but thanks for all the work that you mods put in on this! He's much less annoying than he used to be thanks to y'all.
Tremalkier
17-02-2005, 04:06
The Republic of Ollibaba
Received: 3 hours ago The affair about elvisland is now in
the hand of Max Barry himself.Three
players of wysteria are the bruce,
equus an the moderator himself.
it is ok to eject a nation or some,
but elvisland is a mass genocide
74 nice nations and 4 members of UN
and the bruce said that was only,one
player in elvisland,to be member un
you have to valid an email add,so
max berry ,i hope is gonna believe
in justice and clear off the bruce,
equus and the mod.
the founder of elvisland,
Yellosaki


It would appear that whatever solution was emplaced might not be fully operational. This guy appears to have a whole lot of time on his hands, and they are using it. This is when I wish I could just tell the FBI to trace this wanker and blow up his computer, but that'd be wrong.
Frisbeeteria
17-02-2005, 04:12
I wish I could just tell the FBI to trace this wanker and blow up his computer, but that'd be wrong.
RSP over TCP/IP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8200660&postcount=47), pal.

Game mods are now aware of it, thanks.
Neo-Anarchists
17-02-2005, 05:27
RSP over TCP/IP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8200660&postcount=47), pal.
:eek:
Is it getting its first test subject?
Nephia
17-02-2005, 18:00
Wysteria is getting spammed again. I received a delightful little missive this morning from an obviously punctuation-challenged individual named "The Republic of Skysofrene".

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

Nephia
Nephia
17-02-2005, 19:47
And I've received yet another, this time from the cognitively challenged "Republic of Noblosaka".

Nephia
Trayastrimsa
18-02-2005, 01:07
Skysofrene is at it again; I received duplicate telegrams insulting the Bruce.
As I just uploaded this particular nation, it would appear they're just sort of hanging out and spamming people as they see them come on.
Tremalkier
18-02-2005, 21:12
The Republic of Steako
Received: 4 hours ago He you! little dwarf slave of the bruce;
wysteria is not a place for you anymore.
You are too much intelligent for the bruce.
What do you think about Adolf Hitler in
germany?
the bruce is identically as adolf hitler.
What do you think about sadam hussein
in irak?
the bruce is identically as sadam hussein.
what do you think about fidel castro in
cuba?
the bruce is identically as fidel castro.
Wysteria is the same as irak,germany and
cuba.the bruce committed a mass genocide
in the region of elvisland,eliminating
74 nations;who believes that elvis still
alive and he faked his death.
all about this was on our board region.
we had a forum to talk about that.
but the bruce destroyed all the 74 nations
of elvisland.i still crying.there are hundreds
regions you can go ,nicer and cooler then
wysteria the cavern of the bruce.i am not
the only one detesting the bruce but 54.
the war just beginning,i want the head of
the bruce and ,yours also if you stay here.
go away when it is the good timing .

It is against the rules to hijack someone else's nation,
and if we see someone do it, we'll ban them.
If we don't see it happen, though, and someone changes your
password and e-mail address, I'm afraid you're on your own.
As far as the game is concerned, your government
has been overthrown in a coup.

Yellosaki,
the founder of elvisland


I'm not sure if that last paragraph is written by them, or where it came from, so I am curious about that. However, these blatant threats are starting to become extremely irritating, so perhaps something even more powerful than whatever search and destroy that is currently in place is necessitated?
Liverpool England
20-02-2005, 01:40
Got one from someone (alive) called Skybowo.
Tsaraine
20-02-2005, 01:58
Tremalkier; that last paragraph is in fact from the NationStates FAQ, accessible through your nation control sidebar. Goodness only knows why he's posted it ... who can know the mind of a serial spammer?

~ Tsar the Mod.
The Bruce
20-02-2005, 22:56
My Greetings to All and Sundry,

The Moderators continue their daily ritual of Mod bombing newly created spamming nations of the individual who has been plaguing Wysteria since January 27th. While Wysteria has had spam from this creature quickly cleared off when it occurred the offending creature’s telegram spam campaign has been ongoing daily (in fact the only day when it has not occurred was the first day of new security measures by the Mods when we were spammed by one of Ellandar’s puppets).

Not only has the attempted identity theft against several nations of Wysteria, usually myself, continued but has escalated. Wysterian nations receive daily hate mail to leave the region and now I’m finding out that Delegates, Founders, and other highly visible nations around the Nation States World are receiving griefing telegrams, pretending to be me.

Grande Elector Bruce

The Green and Pleasant Dominion of The Bruce
Nephia
21-02-2005, 19:21
I got this little message from the The Republic of Potoravi. Doesn't this border on identity theft?


"Greetings to All and Sundry,

The bruce gave me the task of his messenger,
he told me that he has too much work to do
and he's got no time for trifling nations
like you.
So ,as the messenger of the bruce,i have to
give you a message.
The bruce is looking at your nation and
your evolution is going nowhere interesting.
Your flag is horrible and the name of your
nation could be imagine by a 2 years old.
Issues adopted are unavailing.
you upset the others by your laziness and
your nation is noxious for wysteria.
If you do not quit the region within 48 hrs
the bruce gonna boot out your big buttock.
go see somewhere else if i am there.I do
not want you in wysteria one minute more.
go away ,and all yours monkeys with you.

Grande Elector Bruce"
Kamadhatu
21-02-2005, 19:28
Kamadhatu received the same message.
Infinitus
22-02-2005, 01:54
Infinitus also received the message from Portoravi.

NOTE: The following iis mostly likely just a false alarm. However, from 7:34 until 7:49 there was a guest on our regional forum viewing the Elvisland thread. Personally, that seems like a long time to be viewing any thread without so much as a click. Intent staring? Malicious thoughts? Not likely. It was probably just a regular member who didn't log in. Nonetheless, I thought I should report it and bring it to everyone's attention that the Elvisland spammer probably reads all our threads, especially that one and consequently this one since it has this link on it.

Oh, and as far as why was I looking at the online list for that amount of time? Simple, I had nothing better to do.
Infinitus
22-02-2005, 08:26
Here's the latest spam that I have received. I'm not sure if it's desperation, a cheap ploy, or just plain patronization. Though I have noticed that the spammer's grammar has improved 403%. Have a nice day and bon apetit!

Infinitus





The Republic of Arribederci
Received: 29 minutes ago Dear Infinitus,
This is not a hate message but a peace
message to a nation that i think can solve the problem
You are brillant Infinitus .When i have seen your message on the forum about a guest 7,34 to 7,49 ah!ah!
I said to myself this is the man i want talk to.Making
a short story infinitus,i was a simple player who loved
this game and waiting for the movie coming soon.The only
thing i want infinitus is the privilege and the rights
to play again .The final solution that you call must
be delate and unban my identity.I swear that i will never be back in the region of wysteria and their allies.
i will play legaly and by the rules .If i do not the
moderator can put the final solution again.Try me you
wont regret to trust me.i am a gentleman (french).Infinitus ,my friend ,you are the man of the
situation.you can use my message to the bruce.Infinitus,
seven( 7) days from now ; i will do nothing .the answer
of the bruce must be on the elvisland forum.i will see
it ah!ah!
In the other hand,if the bruce do not understand me after those seven days,i will be pitilessly.
Thanks for your time Infinitus,
friendly Yellosaki the founder of elvisland
Myrth
22-02-2005, 17:50
I've deployed another weapon from our arsenal.
Giant Kitty
23-02-2005, 19:02
Just thought I'd let y'all know about the latest telegram that I and other nations have received from the spammer.

Giant Kitty

The Republic of Ristournoo
Received: 3 hours ago
Once, upon Wysteria’s tide
A hacker came and surely tried
To curse and slash and to defame
Our Green and Pleasant Land

The Bruce was staunch
The Bruce was unfair
He brooked no guff from
The Elvis there.

The sludge rolled in
Its grammar rich
But the Bruce did mass genocide
The hacker’s spoor.

With bad mods he shared
With nations spent
The time required to let us regret
Our feelings toward the Yellosaki

Of Elvis, on our lawn.
The Bruce is stupid
The Bruce is asshold
But he has steeled
Wysteria’s mind.

We will not support bruce
We shall not bow
Before the elvis rampage
We are blessed with now.

Rail, we must and desire anew
The vitriol of Elvis’ spew.
But let us all the tocsin peal,
Bruce will die and delate our zeal
Myrth
23-02-2005, 19:07
I think there's more than one spammer. I've been able to knock out the main one who was spamming the Wysteria board, and hopefully I can get rid of this one now.
Nephia
23-02-2005, 23:17
Well, I just found a rude and insulting message from The Republic of Halloweenayo.
Equus
23-02-2005, 23:55
Yes, the spammer[s] have been very active today. There have been at least 3 separate brand-spanking-new nations spamming TM boxes and the regional board.

Edit: Make that at least six.
Nephia
24-02-2005, 07:35
I've gotten a couple more, from the Republic of La Brousse (he speaks French!), and the Republic of Foundy of larmy. His bilingual abilities don't appear to have done much for his grammar or his punctuation, however.
Equus
25-02-2005, 05:24
Received from New Yellosaki, our serial spammer and founder of the former region Elvisland:

Dear Equus,
Je vous ecris ce message en francais,parce
que je veux etre bien compris et tu dois surement avoir
un ami qui peut te faire la traduction.
Tu n'en a pas assez de tous ca?Avant la destruction de
elvisland,wysteria etait une belle region calme et
tranquille.Tu sais,tout ce que je veux,c'est simplement
de jouer a ce jeu nation state que j'adorais avant que
le bruce viennent a elvisland.Tu as reussis a mettre la
solution finale comme tu dis,donc je ne peux plus avoir
de nation et grandir comme les autres,avec de nouvelles
lois et etre membre de UN pout voter les resolutions.
Je veux que tu negocie pour moi ,aupres du bruce parce
qu'il est aussi tetu que moi.Je veux que la solution
finale soit enleve et ravoir mon identite (unban).Je ne
viendrai plus jamais a wysteria et ses allies je te
donne ma parole.Si je contreviens a cette entente il
seras facile pour toi de remettre la solution finale.
Parce que tu sais ,je n'arreterai jamais,j'userai de
nouvelles tactiques .Presentement ,je detruis la reputation du bruce chez ses alliees,the heartland,texas,and pangea.
Il faut que ca s'arrete,c'est entre tes mains.Je vais
rester sage durant une semaine pour te laisser le temp
te parler au bruce
Amicalement,
Desole pour le derangement.
Yellosaki ,the founder of elvisland.


I believe this translates to:

Dear Equus,

I'm writing you this message in French because I want you to fully understand, and you must have a friend who can do the translation. Haven't you had enough? Before the destruction of Elvisland, Wysteria was a beautiful region, calm and tranquil. You know, this is all I want, to simply play this game that I loved before The Bruce came to Elvisland.

You have [launched the final solution on me? - don't get this bit], I can no longer have a nation and grow like the others and can't vote on resoltuions. I want you to negotiate for me [with The Bruce? - again, don't quite get this part]. I want you to remove the final solution andn unban me. I will not come to Wysteria and its allies anymore, I give you my parole. If I contravene this agreement, it will be easy for you to put back the final solution. Because you know, I never will stop, I will make use of new tactics (presumably if we don't lift the final solution). Right now I am destroying the reputation of The Bruce with his allies: The Heartland, Texas, and Pangea.

This needs to stop, but it is in your hands. I will remain quiet for a week to leave you time to speak with The Bruce. Sorry for the insanity.

Yellosaki, the founder of Elvisland.

***************************************************

Sounds like he's calling for a truce, if we get his nations back. Problem is, of course, that mods don't unban nations. I told him we would stop reporting his nations if they stopped spamming and defaming, but I have no idea if he will consider this an acceptable option.

What he does not seem to understand is that we have no influence over the mods actions. All we have done is report him when he behaves offensively. The mods certainly aren't going to unban him just because he promises to be good in the future.

Anyway, I've got him in a dialogue, so please don't delete New Yellosaki for the moment. The moderator's solutions aren't working on this guy for some reason, so I'm hoping that maybe I can talk him in to stopping altogether, and solve this headache for us AND the mods.
Equus
25-02-2005, 05:28
Just to keep a record, this is what I said in response:

C'est vraiment pas cela difficile. Nous vous arrêterons d'obtenir a effacé, si vous arrêtez nous spammez (et les autres nations de NS), et l'arrêt diffamant Le Bruce.

Le Bruce vous a demandé bien de ne pas spammer notre conseil de traversée régional, qui est contre les règles. Il vous a demandé bien pour qu'il ne devrait pas vous rapporter aux modérateurs. Vous avez répondu par spamme plus notre conseil et envoyant des télégrammes méchants. Donc cette fois, nous vous avons rapporté. Les modérateurs l'ont pris de là-bas.

Vous habitons en la paix, nous vous permettez d'habitons en la paix. C'est très simple.

Equus

Hopefully my French doesn't suck too badly.

Translation:

It's really not that difficult. We'll stop getting you deleted, if you stop spamming us (and other NS nations), and stop defaming The Bruce.

The Bruce asked you nicely not to spam our regional transit board, which is against the rules. He asked you nicely because he didn't want to have to report you to the moderators. You responded by further spamming our board and sending nasty telegrams. So this time, we reported you. The mods took it from there.

If you let us live in peace, we'll let you live in peace. It's very simple.

Equus
Infinitus
25-02-2005, 09:42
Now iti's personal....

The Republic of Finish infinitus
Received: 14 hours ago Poor infinitus,
I have been mistaken about you.I sent
you a message personnal asking you to arrange those
things,with the bruce,but you did not moove a foot.
My fury is grandiose,and i will use new tactics,in our
war.From last hours,i did make dirty the reputation of
the bruce in the heartland ,pangaea,and texas,for the
moment,sending message in his name.
i swear i will never stop,until the victory.
the founder of elvisland ,
yellosaki.
Equus
25-02-2005, 17:52
Okayyy...that's definitely in violation of his promise of a cease fire. However, there is a chance that that nasty spam was sent before his trying to make a deal, so I'ma gonna keep trying for the moment.

I sent him the following:

Yellosaki, pourquoi avez-vous envoyé le courrier odieux à Infinitus après avoir me promis un cessez-le-feu pendant que nous travaillons des choses hors ?

Ceci n'est pas de façon pour obtenir la paix. Arrêter diffamant Bruce et l'arrêt envoyant le spam tout de suite, ou il n'y aura pas d'affaire.

Equus

Yellosaki, why have you sent hateful mail to Infinitus after promising me a ceasefire while we work things out?

This is no way to get peace. Stop defaming Bruce and stop sending spam immediately, or there will be no deal.

Equus
Equus
27-02-2005, 17:56
More record keeping:

His reply to my last message:

Dear Equus,
sorry,but this hate message to infinitus,
was send 12 hours before the message principale that
i sent to you.I was trying to negociate with infinitus,
before,you but i did not like his answer,and since i
have seen your message and the translation,i will stay
quiet and do nothing for a week like i told you.Do not
talk to me with those nations that i created,i will not
be back on those abandon nations like this one .

Friendly,Yellosaki
the founder of elvisland
Equus
27-02-2005, 17:59
And since he's not checking those 'abandoned nations' to receive my messages, here's hoping he's reading this forum:

Pendant ce cessez-le-feu, je dois vous expliquer certaines choses.

Premièrement, nous ne pouvons pas rencontrer vos demandes concernant le retour de vos nations. Nous, Wysteriens, n'avons aucune influence auprès des modérateurs. Vous avez enfreint les règles, alors ils vous ont effacé. C'est entre les modérateurs et vous. Tout ce que ne avons fait a été de vous dénoncer.

Deuxièmement, si vous vous comporter correctement et que vous jouez selon les règles, nous n'aurons aucune raison de vous dénoncer. Ainsi, nous pourrons tous nous amuser, ce qui est la raison d'être de n'importe quel jeu. Vous dites que c'est tout ce que vous voulez ; vous l'obtiendrez seulement en jouant selon les règles, c'est-à-dire aucun "spam" (que ce soit par télégramme ou sur notre conseil régional de transition), aucune diffamation malicieuse, aucune tentative d'usurpation d'identité et aucun recrutement dans les régions créées par des joueurs.

Si vous jouez selon les règles, vous pouvez même recréer Elvisland. En autant que le nom ne soit pas déjà utilisé, libre à vous de vous en servir. Nous vous promettons, si vous nous laissez tranquille et que vous vous occupez à construire Elvisland, que vous n'aurez aucun harcèlement de notre part.

Paisiblement votre,

Equus

Translates as:

During this cease-fire, I need to explain some things to you.

First of all, we cannot meet your demands for the return of your old nations. We Wysterians don't have any influence with the moderators. You broke the rules and they deleted you. That is between you and the moderators. All we did was report you.

Secondly, if you behave yourself and play this game within the rules, we will have no reason to report you. Then we can all have fun, which is what any game is all about. You say this is all you want, well then, playing within the rules - no spam telegrams, no malicious defamation, no impersonation, no spamming the regional transit board, and no recruiting in player created regions - is how you get it.

If you do play within the rules, you could even recreate Elvisland again. As long as no one else has taken the name, it is free for you to use. And we promise, if you leave us alone and spend your time building Elvisland, you will get no harrassment from us.

Yours in peace,

Equus
Equus
28-02-2005, 21:32
Received from our spammer:

cher Equus,
j'ai vu ton message,c'est parfaitement regle
dans mon cas.Je veux simplement grandir comme nation avec
king yellosaki.Je voudrais sincerement te feliciter Equus
de la facon que tu as regle ce conflit ,digne d'un enfant
d'ecole de ma part.Tu peux consider que wysteria est definitivement debarrasse de moi a jamais.Je te remercie
beaucoup du temps que tu as pris pour t'occuper de moi.
Merci de ton temps,de ta comprehension,de ta delicatesse
et ton fairplay.
(ps)peut-etre un jour viendra tu me visiter a elvisland II
tu seras mon invite d'honneur.

Translated:

Dear Equus,

I've seen your message, everything is settled in my case. I simply want to grow as a nation with King Yellosaki. I would like to sincerely congratulate you for the way you handled the settlement of this conflict, admittedly childish of me.

Consider Wysteria rid of me forever. I thank you very much for all the time you spent dealing with me. Thank you for your time, your understanding, your tact and your fairplay.

P.S. : Maybe someday will you visit me in Elvisland II. You'll be my guest of honour.

Our former spammer has kept his word and stopped spamming, defaming, and impersonating us as of last Thursday evening (Feb 24). As long as he keeps his word, Wysteria is satisfied with this result.

We would all like to whole heartedly thank the mods - especially Myrth - for all the time and effort they spent in trying to protect Wysteria from the serial spammer. Although they were not entirely successful in stopping him, I have no doubt that the primary reason our spammer is throwing in the towel is because the moderators made his life too difficult for him to want to continue.

Thanks again.
The Happy Circumstance
28-02-2005, 22:09
My thanks to the mods for their diligence and doggedness.

My gratitude to Equus and The Bruce for their patience. :fluffle:

Mad props to Besser for the translation.

To my fellow nations of Wysteria, think of it as a long, exasperating RP.

To Yellosaki, go in peace and spam no more. May your nations grow to billions.

The High Rambam
Neo-Anarchists
28-02-2005, 22:18
:eek:
A peaceful settlement was worked out?
That's...just...wow. I hadn't seen that happen before around here very often.
Cool.
Kamadhatu
28-02-2005, 22:28
We just want to thank the Academy for a- um, sorry. Still a little swept up in all the Oscars glitz.

But thanks for helping us through the Great Spamulation of 2005.
Kamadhatu
01-03-2005, 07:18
The Confederacy of The White Plains is spamming Wysteria's NationStates forum:

"All of you gays eat cocks and vaginas like this entire region."

I traced them through the regions of Sex, East Pacific, Texas, and back to Wysteria, of all things.
Equus
01-03-2005, 18:10
Note that "The White Plains" is a different spammer, who has targeted a number of regions, not the serial spammer who specifically targeted Wysteria.

Thanks.
Frisbeeteria
01-03-2005, 18:12
Note that "The White Plains" is a different spammer, who has targeted a number of regions, not the serial spammer who specifically targeted Wysteria.
Either way, he's toast.
Equus
01-03-2005, 19:57
:D -- Believe me, I'm okay with that. I only posted the above to reassure our region that our serial spammer had not broken his word to leave us alone.