NationStates Jolt Archive


The Hitler Jugend

Sanctaphrax
01-02-2005, 06:37
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8088673

This thread, started by the Hitler Jugend comes with the words "Finally something good is coming out of Russia" with regards to throwing out all Jews from Russia. The way he phrases it does seem remarkably like flamebait, and flaming.
Would it also go under advocating genocide? Advocating throwing all of a certain religion or race out of a country?
The Most Glorious Hack
01-02-2005, 07:08
Locked.

And, no, genocide involves killin'.
Angelico
01-02-2005, 08:15
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8088673

Would it also go under advocating genocide? Advocating throwing all of a certain religion or race out of a country?

I think you're thinking of ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing can include the forced movement of a group of people, among many other acts like sterilization, massed institutionalized rape, and outright genocide.
Neo-Anarchists
01-02-2005, 14:09
Would it also go under advocating genocide? Advocating throwing all of a certain religion or race out of a country?
If advocating violence and murder is against forum rules, then THJ has broken them many times over.

Is it against forum rules?
Sanctaphrax
01-02-2005, 14:20
I think it is provided its against:
a) A world leader
b) Another NS poster

Otherwise I think its ok.
Myrth
01-02-2005, 14:26
I think it is provided its against:
a) A world leader
b) Another NS poster

Otherwise I think its ok.

There's a difference between 'I wish Bush was dead/The world would be better off if Bush was dead' and 'I'm going to kill Bush by shooting down Air Force One' or whatever. First one is fine, second one gets Jolt a phonecall from the CIA.
Sanctaphrax
01-02-2005, 14:30
But is advocating killing people not allowed? If so then apparently he's done it many times. Personally I don't usually read his threads. If I want a comedy I'll rent one from the video store.
Myrth
01-02-2005, 14:44
As I said, it depends. 'All Jews should be shot' for example is a flame/flamebait and I'd likely smack him with a forumban for it.
Hell-holia
01-02-2005, 14:46
If I were to say "I will kill George W. Bush" that would be wrong, but if I were to say, "I will kill Saddam Hussein," would that would be OK?

What if I write it like this:

I \/\/i11 |<|11 g30rg3 |3u5|-|!!11! ZOMG!!
Sanctaphrax
01-02-2005, 14:47
Hello, this sounds like advocating genocide.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392363&page=2&pp=15
Non-Aryans would be publically hung.
A) I think you'd have a lot more fun killing all the homosexuals
B) The spics would just steal your sharks and piranhas. Just put some sniper towers along the border and you're done. Voila!

Does your mother have no shame?
She's a disgrace to her beautiful Austrian heritage.
And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.
I cannot allow for mongrels to roam free, passing on their genetically inferior blood.

Thats my research done for now.
Myrth
01-02-2005, 15:08
I've implemented a 10-day forumban.
Neo-Anarchists
01-02-2005, 15:09
I've implemented a 10-day forumban.
Wow, I had thought he'd get off with a warning.
Then again, he *did* say some things that are a bit out there...
Cogitation
01-02-2005, 15:38
But is advocating killing people not allowed? If so then apparently he's done it many times. Personally I don't usually read his threads. If I want a comedy I'll rent one from the video store.
As I said, it depends. 'All Jews should be shot' for example is a flame/flamebait and I'd likely smack him with a forumban for it.
Actually, "All [insert group] should be shot" would probably be trolling.

"Threatening", as such, falls under two general categories (both of which risk deletion-without-warning):
Threatening another NationStates player and/or their friends and family. (Typically OOC, but if we think that the In-Character/Out-Of-Character distinction is being abused to disguise an OOC threat as an IC threat, then we will take action against you.)
Discussing you, yourself, killing people in real life. This could be anything as grandiose as "I will assassinate the President of the United States" to anything as mundane as "My f---ing annoying neighbor.... I'm gonna [insert vivid description of gruesome death here] and I'm gonna listen to him scream."

Advocating genocide falls more under the "malicious" clause than the "threatening" clause.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator
Sanctaphrax
01-02-2005, 15:45
Threatening another NationStates player

So surely his comment of


And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.

counts as a threat?
Tora-Bora Talibans
01-02-2005, 16:22
If I were to say "I will kill George W. Bush" that would be wrong, but if I were to say, "I will kill Saddam Hussein," would that would be OK?

I don't think so