NationStates Jolt Archive


Ad questions

Kandarin
15-01-2005, 06:09
Is it legal to post regional ads in the Civil Headquarters of regions besides the Pacifics and RR?

Also, is it legal to telegram ads to Rejected Realms residents?
Cogitation
15-01-2005, 06:57
Is it legal to post regional ads in the Civil Headquarters of regions besides the Pacifics and RR?
No. Ad posts may only be used in the feeder regions and "The Rejected Realms". Recruitment telegrams may only be sent to nations in the feeders and "The Rejected Realms".

Also, is it legal to telegram ads to Rejected Realms residents?
Yes.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
The Most Glorious Hack
15-01-2005, 08:39
No. Ad posts may only be used in the feeder regions and "The Rejected Realms".

Not to step on Cog's toes here, but there's a slight addendum: If the regional Founder allows it, regional ads may be placed in non-feeder regions. This is only the perogative of the Founder, however.
1 Infinite Loop
15-01-2005, 09:15
I have noticed recently that spamvertizers like to spam up the Real world regions too, like Spain, france ect.
HotRodia
15-01-2005, 09:25
I have noticed recently that spamvertizers like to spam up the Real world regions too, like Spain, france ect.

Texas has also been hit a couple of times lately.
Kroblexskij
15-01-2005, 09:33
however if someone is in the realms it means they've been upto no good
Crazy girl
15-01-2005, 10:28
however if someone is in the realms it means they've been upto no good

wrong.

they could've been kicked by an invader delegate, an tyrant delegate/founder, someone who got tired of his region and emptied it, and believe it or not, many are there by choice. ever checked out the rejected realms foum? we even have a cool army that defends other regions against invaders :D
Puppet nr 784523
15-01-2005, 11:17
"Originally Posted by Kandarin: Is it legal to post regional ads in the Civil Headquarters of regions besides the Pacifics and RR?"

No. Ad posts may only be used in the feeder regions and "The Rejected Realms". Recruitment telegrams may only be sent to nations in the feeders and "The Rejected Realms".


"Originally Posted by Kandarin:
Also, is it legal to telegram ads to Rejected Realms residents? "
Yes.
Is this new, because if I remember correctly, it was allowed to telegram nations in the feeders, but it wasn't quite decided on the RR and Lazarus

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357113
Parvani
15-01-2005, 11:20
I think they just follow the same rules as for regional ads. So you can telegram and post recruitment messages for the nations sitting in the pacifics and the RR (don't forget the "the" in front of those) because it is reasonable to believe they look for new regions, and not to the ones in playercreated regions and Lazarus.
Cogitation
15-01-2005, 16:51
Not to step on Cog's toes here, but there's a slight addendum: If the regional Founder allows it, regional ads may be placed in non-feeder regions. This is only the perogative of the Founder, however.
Ahhh.... yes. I stand corrected. Sorry for the confusion.

Is this new, because if I remember correctly, it was allowed to telegram nations in the feeders, but it wasn't quite decided on the RR and Lazarus

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357113
I think they just follow the same rules as for regional ads. So you can telegram and post recruitment messages for the nations sitting in the pacifics and the RR (don't forget the "the" in front of those) because it is reasonable to believe they look for new regions, and not to the ones in playercreated regions and Lazarus.
Okay, let me summarize this:

Feeder regions:
["The Pacific", "The North Pacific", "The East Pacific", "The South Pacific", "The West Pacific"]
Civil Headquarters ads permitted once per day.
Recruitment telegrams permitted; one per nation.

"The Rejected Realms":
Civil Headquarters ads permitted once per day.
I have to double-check the recruitment telegrams bit.

"Lazarus":
No Civil Headquarters ads permitted, ever.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

Regions designated by NationStates Admins and Mods as "Warzones":
Spamming the Civil Headquarters is allowed, so recruitment ads are also allowed.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

Player-created regions without a Founder:
No Civil Headquarters ads permitted, ever.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

Player-created regions with a Founder:
Civil Headquarters ads are permitted only with the expressed permission of the Founder.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Steel Butterfly
15-01-2005, 20:06
Regions designated by NationStates Admins and Mods as "Warzones":
Spamming the Civil Headquarters is allowed, so recruitment ads are also allowed.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

What exactly is a "warzone?" Is that involved with all that region invading and crashing nonsense or what?
Frisbeeteria
15-01-2005, 21:27
What exactly is a "warzone?" Is that involved with all that region invading and crashing nonsense or what?
I think these are the official Warzones (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/05306/page=list_regions/start=14110):
Warzone Africa
Warzone Airspace
Warzone Asia
Warzone Australia
Warzone Europe
Warzone Sandbox

There are a few player-created ones as well, but they don't get the special rules that a real game-created warzone gets.

Official thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=328627)
Steel Butterfly
15-01-2005, 21:41
I think these are the official Warzones (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/05306/page=list_regions/start=14110):
Warzone Africa
Warzone Airspace
Warzone Asia
Warzone Australia
Warzone Europe
Warzone Sandbox

There are a few player-created ones as well, but they don't get the special rules that a real game-created warzone gets.

Official thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=328627)

Hmm...interesting...
Jjuulliiaann
15-01-2005, 23:51
Feeder regions:
["The Pacific", "The North Pacific", "The East Pacific", "The South Pacific", "The West Pacific"]
Civil Headquarters ads permitted once per day.
Recruitment telegrams permitted; one per nation.

"The Rejected Realms":
Civil Headquarters ads permitted once per day.
I have to double-check the recruitment telegrams bit.

"Lazarus":
No Civil Headquarters ads permitted, ever.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

Regions designated by NationStates Admins and Mods as "Warzones":
Spamming the Civil Headquarters is allowed, so recruitment ads are also allowed.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

Player-created regions without a Founder:
No Civil Headquarters ads permitted, ever.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

Player-created regions with a Founder:
Civil Headquarters ads are permitted only with the expressed permission of the Founder.
No telegramming residents with recruitment ads, ever.

I think that something like this should probably be stickied.
The Anti Commi Clan
16-01-2005, 01:58
I think these are the official Warzones (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/05306/page=list_regions/start=14110):
Warzone Africa
Warzone Airspace
Warzone Asia
Warzone Australia
Warzone Europe
Warzone Sandbox

There are a few player-created ones as well, but they don't get the special rules that a real game-created warzone gets.

Official thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=328627)

Yes those are the six official warzones. And they are lots of fun, as you can see Sandbox and Airspace are currently controlled by my region.
Tuesday Heights
26-02-2005, 02:44
I apologize for bumping this, but I must've missed this thread in my hiatus and have a clarification question to ask...

Is it legal to recruit from the UN Activity List, and if so, what specifications are one to follow when doing so?
Relaxed
26-02-2005, 11:40
Hmm...interesting...

You can advertize there, but the current occupational army might simply scroll it away. They are allowed to spam too :P
Majesto
26-02-2005, 18:24
Is it legal to recruit from the UN Activity List, and if so, what specifications are one to follow when doing so?
I'm pretty sure it follows the same rules as other advertising. The nation you want to recruit must be in a region that complies with the rules for advertising. Them being on the UN list is secondary to what region they're in.
Tuesday Heights
26-02-2005, 18:27
I'm pretty sure it follows the same rules as other advertising. The nation you want to recruit must be in a region that complies with the rules for advertising. Them being on the UN list is secondary to what region they're in.

I was told on IRC in #themodcave a few months back that you couldn't recruit from the UN Activity List period... that's why I'm asking for an official, in a thread, so I and many others can refer people to an official ruling.

See, because the problem is, people aren't following the "regular rules for recruiting" as definied by Cogitation when coming to the UN list; they're still recruiting from it - blatantly with the telegram - even if you're still in a player-created region.

I'm just seeking some clarity so that I and others can refer to this thread when someone goes off on us for being nice about it.
Komokom
27-02-2005, 01:13
See, because the problem is, people aren't following the "regular rules for recruiting" as definied by Cogitation when coming to the UN list; they're still recruiting from it - blatantly with the telegram - even if you're still in a player-created region.Kill them. Kill them all, and make a hill of their bones. Place it on your regional borders and let it be a warning to them all.

TO THEM ALL I SAY !

( Cough )
Tuesday Heights
28-02-2005, 22:23
I apologize for bumping this, but I must've missed this thread in my hiatus and have a clarification question to ask...

Is it legal to recruit from the UN Activity List, and if so, what specifications are one to follow when doing so?

Bump.
Tuesday Heights
03-03-2005, 01:54
Bumpity bump.
Euroslavia
03-03-2005, 04:36
I think that something like this should probably be stickied.

It has been added to the Moderation Forum sticky.
Kandarin
03-03-2005, 05:33
Is it legal to send ads to non-feeder residents if you are in the same region? I have a puppet that is Founder of a small region, and is trying to get the residents interested in the forum of that region. Would it be acceptable to send invitations to said forum to all of the residents? (with my Founder account, not this one, of course.
The Most Glorious Hack
03-03-2005, 11:45
I see no reason why not, being the Founder an all.
Tuesday Heights
07-03-2005, 04:58
I apologize for bumping this, but I must've missed this thread in my hiatus and have a clarification question to ask...

Is it legal to recruit from the UN Activity List, and if so, what specifications are one to follow when doing so?

Again... bumped.
Komokom
07-03-2005, 07:20
Tuesday, surely the point is, that you CAN use the U.N. Activity List but when you do use it, those nations you contact MUST fit the original standards for recruiting, in that they are not in player created regions, etc.

And if people ARE using it, and are trying to recruit nations which ARE in player created regions, etc, then they should be reported as such.

It is just an alternate source of information, but you have to interpret it right to make sure you don't break any rules, and you use it at your peril.

At least that is my take on it, but " I'm like Treznor " ;)
Tuesday Heights
07-03-2005, 22:42
Komo, I understand that and all, but I'd like to see it set in stone, considering some moderators say you can and others say you can't. It's pretty obvious when someone recruits strictly from the UN Activity List and when they actually check to see what region that nation resides in.
Frisbeeteria
07-03-2005, 22:55
Komo, I understand that and all, but I'd like to see it set in stone.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/meh.jpg
Neo-Anarchists
07-03-2005, 23:02
Well, there you have it! Official mod policy!
:D
Tuesday Heights
08-03-2005, 01:29
lol, Fris. I'd still like to see someone say it one way or another, if you don't mind, I don't think that's a lot to ask.
Komokom
08-03-2005, 04:06
* mutters :

" Well if they'd Mod me, I could say it ( again ) Then I could lock the U.N. Forum and start with The Purge ... hehehe ... "
Kwaswhakistan
08-03-2005, 05:52
ah the great purge... it is a day we all fear..... it will come I tell you!!! IT IS UPON US!! THE PURGE IS NEAR!
Tuesday Heights
09-03-2005, 19:51
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/meh.jpg

Surely, there's more than this?
Komokom
11-03-2005, 07:33
Special Bump Just For Tuesday
Komokom
14-03-2005, 06:04
BUMP for Tuesday so she can get her official Moderator response ..

( hint hint hint hint hint ! )
Myrth
14-03-2005, 09:36
I would say yes, you can recruit from the activity list provided the usual rules are followed (only from feeders, one telegram per nation etc.) as there is no way we could tell whether someone is recruiting from the UN list or not. Who was the moderator who told you otherwise?
Tuesday Heights
15-03-2005, 04:24
I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, I'd have to look through about 100 pages of espernet logs and I don't have time to do that. Thanks for giving me this response though so I can direct nations here if there's a dispute.