NationStates Jolt Archive


Rule-breaking in Marxism

Inquisitive Idiots
08-01-2005, 12:24
I post this in here so others can also confirm the regional happenings. I will launch a report also.

Yesterday Marxism was invaded by fake EAA, pretenders, who actually are crashers.
The invading delegate ejected numerous nations, unbanned them but ejected everytime they tried to get in. That alone was suspicious activity, not the point I want to make though.

Regional Happenings
* 26 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands departed this region for The Proletariat Coalition
* 28 minutes ago: The United Socialist States of Tobyism arrived from The Proletariat Coalition.
* 33 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands removed The Crazy Hamsternation of Crazygirl from the regional ban list.
* 33 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands removed The Insanity of Crazy girl from the regional ban list.
* 35 minutes ago: The Kingdom of The Mighty Monkey Lord arrived from Amazon.
* 51 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of The Opium Eaters arrived from Europe.
* 82 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands removed regional password protection.
* 2 hours ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands password-protected the region.
* 3 hours ago: The Commonwealth of Asalan Maskarvada arrived from Apolyton.
* 4 hours ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands arrived from The Proletariat Coalition.

Boldings by me

2 hours ago The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands As a security precaution against potential invaders I've temporarilly password-protected the region.

Over the next short while I will begin distributing the password to all native and recently arrived members of the region.

Unless members insist otherwise, I don't plan to keep the protection active for more than an hour or so.
Boldings by me

I have a native in the region, called The Natural Order. It never received the password. All it had in the inbox was way old messages and that iwalton address. The time the password were on might've been short but the password weren't sent to me.
Even though the region had about 17 nations in, the spam filter doesn't take your time so much you can't send the password to the natives within the time the region were at least password-protected, 38 minutes [120 minutes - 82 minutes = 38 minutes].

I will make a mod report also now...
Crazy girl
08-01-2005, 12:44
here's what i see:

Regional Happenings

* 11 minutes ago: The Republic of EAA Commander arrived from EAA.
* 40 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands departed this region for The Proletariat Coalition
* 42 minutes ago: The United Socialist States of Tobyism arrived from The Proletariat Coalition.
* 47 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands removed The Crazy Hamsternation of Crazygirl from the regional ban list.
* 47 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands removed The Insanity of Crazy girl from the regional ban list.
* 49 minutes ago: The Kingdom of The Mighty Monkey Lord arrived from Amazon.
* 65 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of The Opium Eaters arrived from Europe.
* 96 minutes ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands removed regional password protection.
* 2 hours ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands password-protected the region.
* 3 hours ago: The Commonwealth of Asalan Maskarvada arrived from Apolyton.



2 hours ago The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands As a security precaution against potential invaders I've temporarilly password-protected the region.

Over the next short while I will begin distributing the password to all native and recently arrived members of the region.

Unless members insist otherwise, I don't plan to keep the protection active for more than an hour or so.

Also, reading this post:

13 hours ago The Democratic Sanctuary of Chin-Chilla After recent events the EAA Central Command would like to make known the following:

1. The Nations EAA Ambassador XI and EAA Commander are NOT part of The_Real_EAA. They are considered enemy and are regarded in all our member regions as 'eject on site' nations.
2. The regions EAA and Sambian are NOT part of The_Real_EAA, they are considered enemy and any nations that are found to be ascociated with these region will be met with an 'eject on site' policy in all EAA Regions.

We would like to point out that, when we defend a region it is only as a result of a direct threat to said region and/or request from known natives of said region. We have not, and NEVER will sanction any act of so called *pre-emtive* defense.
This is nothing short of an act of war and as such, will NOT be tolerated by any Member region within our Defence group.
Any actions carried out by THE EAA have always, and will continue to be, carried out by our forces moving from, AND THIS SHOULD BE NOTED, only from member regions and protectorates.

For more information on the_Real_EAA, as in the famous Emergency Auxiliary Army, founded by the Worlds Stronghold then take a look at our information website under 'The Real EAA'
http://www.the-eaa.tk

Thank you,

can anything be done about these nations that were just created to annoy the EAA members and others by pretending to be the real EAA and giving the Real EAA a bad name?
Crazy girl
08-01-2005, 12:52
current xml for reference (can always come in handy):

<REGIONINFO>
<NAME>Marxism</NAME>
-
<FACTBOOK>
Marxism is a small and relatively inert region that focuses much of its energy on debating. We debate a diverse range of topics, and do not confine ourselves just to politics. In general we have a left-wing committment as can be seen by our constitution. We try to live by the principle, 'From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs'.

Marxism pre-emptively defended by EAA Sambian Division HQ. All residents now free to return, invaders have been ejected.
</FACTBOOK>
<NUMNATIONS>22</NUMNATIONS>
-
<NATIONS>
the_natural_order:kraftwerk:hamster_city:rahmasiar:yarivia:blutch:
scargillite_britain:juganistan:heyhey:shianoka:zanzibaar:grigon:matlachistan:
doubtfull_delirium:weapon_manufacturers:hapless_hippies:fred_radical:
asalan_maskarvada:the_opium_eaters:the_mighty_monkey_lord:tobyism:
the_saucy_sorceress
</NATIONS>
<DELEGATE>the_veritas_islands</DELEGATE>
<DELEGATEVOTES>2</DELEGATEVOTES>
<FOUNDER>soviet_democracy</FOUNDER>
</REGIONINFO>
New Stamford
08-01-2005, 12:59
Will someone think of the children?!
The Most Glorious Hack
08-01-2005, 14:34
Well, as the password has been removed, I'll warn him. Not much else I can do now, aside from keep an eye on things:

Seconds ago: The Scary Ubiquitous Presence of Voice of Mud arrived from That Place Over There.
Goobergunchia
08-01-2005, 23:24
I could be mistaken, but I thought that impersonating other nations with the intent to defame them was against the rules...although this is an alliance impersonation, not a nation impersonation....
The Avenging Angels
08-01-2005, 23:28
Wait, did I just see the name scargilite britain? They came to my region a while ago and were ejected because they were a raider. How do you view the XML?
Frisbeeteria
08-01-2005, 23:38
How do you view the XML?
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/XML%20feed
The Avenging Angels
08-01-2005, 23:53
That seems kind of pointless, but thank you.
Steel Butterfly
09-01-2005, 00:01
I could be mistaken, but I thought that impersonating other nations with the intent to defame them was against the rules...although this is an alliance impersonation, not a nation impersonation....

It shouldn't matter. The rules should apply to alliances and regions as well, being that they too are entities within this game.
The Avenging Angels
09-01-2005, 00:24
I agree with steel butterfly, people should not be allowed to impersonate alliances and defame them.

You are also not allowed to create imposter regions that will defame other regions.
El Harve
09-01-2005, 04:59
I agree with steel butterfly, people should not be allowed to impersonate alliances and defame them.

You are also not allowed to create imposter regions that will defame other regions.
Yet, two previous DEN regions (and soon to be a third, I'd think) are now used to publish anti-DEN propaganda.

Selling paradigms for twenty cents,
~ El Harve
The Avenging Angels
09-01-2005, 05:20
That is a good point,I forgot about the first two regions being refounded.

The people who refounded the first two DEN regions did not go to another region and "preemptively defend another region. Those same people claimed to be the real EAA. It seems to me the people who refounded DEN and DEN II make no claims to actually be apart of DEN.

Though the third DEN regions demise is pretty much due to General Tommy Franks.
Crazy girl
09-01-2005, 10:40
well, hack, hope your warning made him follow the rules this time

Regional Happenings

* 2 hours ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands changed the regional password.
* 2 hours ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands updated the World Factbook entry.
* 2 hours ago: The Protectorate of The Veritas Islands password-protected the region.
Steel Butterfly
09-01-2005, 18:44
Those same people claimed to be the real EAA. It seems to me the people who refounded DEN and DEN II make no claims to actually be apart of DEN.

Well said. That there is the difference. There is not a problem with a nemesis, only an impersonator.
Crazy girl
10-01-2005, 10:50
more on marxism and imposters:

yesterday, the founder kicked out everyone except heyhey, so that heyhey could refound the region. heyhey moved out early this morning (GMT)

unfortunatly, he went idle. my friend and i created puppets so we could refound the region and then hand over the founder to heyhey.

this succeeded, my friend recreated marxism and telegrammed the pasword to heyhey.

he also explained his actions in the WFE.

then, he recieved this telegram:

The United Socialist States of Heyhay
Received: 6 minutes ago Hey!

Congrats on refounding the region comrade and thanks. I will take the password whenever you are willing to pass it on to me. Marxism will forever be safe and the needy always fulfilled.

Thanks,
Heyhey


a very cheap trick, and hopefully something will be done about this.