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Israel
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=386252

I was wondering if there are possible consequences for the very public support of an invasion of a region that turned out to violate NationStates' rules?

The nation Panzerfaust 88, delegate of NAZI EUROPE, has taken a very public stance in support of the invasion in the region of Israel.

Moderation has apparently already acted to thwart the rule breaking (the nation The Military Command, the apparent invader delegate there was deleted a few hours ago. Also password protection was lifted and I believe that the banlist was cleared of the natives that were ejected by that invader.

Currently a probable native nation Shlimasel was endorsed by my nation and others from Pacific Defenders and TITO.

Anyone that is aware of this situation / griefing please post here.

I don't believe support will land you in trouble. Action, through direct participation or organisation, however, will.

I don't believe support will land you in trouble. Action, through direct participation or organisation, however, will.

I have already filed a "Getting Help" complaint with NS Moderation regarding this issue -- based upon the following post by an admitted puppet nation of Panzerfaust 88:

14 hours ago
The Nazi Empire of A D H H

Greetings. This is Panzerfaust 88 - UN Delegate of NAZI EUROPE.

Firstly I wish to congratulate Military Command and 'The Nazis' for successfully taking control of this region.

Secondly, I want to thank Majistan (UN Delegate of The Real Nazi Europe) for his help in sending other nations from The Real Nazi Europe here to Israel.

Also, Military Command, I am still willing to assist and advise you if you want me to.

Ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer!

14/88

Highlighted emphasis as noted above is mine.

The following posts were screened from the Civil HQ of NAZI EUROPE:

16 hours ago The White Nationalist Empire of Panzerfaust 88

***NEWS***

Our allies The Nazis and The Real Nazi Europe have taken control of Israel with assistance from us in NAZI EUROPE!

15 hours ago
The Republic of Join-nazi-europe
hell yeah

15 hours ago
The Nazi European Embassy of Adolph Hilter
WOW. WE TOOK ISRAEL. What a great way to start off the new year!

14 hours ago
The White Nationalist Empire of Panzerfaust 88
*Gets out the champagne*

13 hours ago
The Iguana-Infested Nation of Iguanalands
*Get's out the glasses*

12 hours ago
The Republic of Join-nazi-europe
screw the champagne
i'm hitting the schnops(sp?)

3 hours ago
The Kingdom of Ergothia
We have a serious problem...

"21 minutes ago: The military command was ejected from the UN for rule violations."

I will do whatever is necessary to fix this, but I'm sure that the region was password protected, which means the only hope is having one of the nations from my region take control of Israel...

I shall keep you all updated as events unfold.

Highlighted emphasis in above copied posts is mine.
I also have html screens made for NS Moderation inspeection if needed.

sheesh, what a mess.

anyways:

1 day ago The Heaven of Shmil How come this dictator is our UN delegate?
23 hours ago The Kingdom of Ergothia I say, more power to him. Congratulations on a well-played move.

SIEG HEIL! *salutes*
14 hours ago The Nazi Empire of A D H H Greetings. This is Panzerfaust 88 - UN Delegate of NAZI EUROPE.

Firstly I wish to congratulate Military Command and 'The Nazis' for successfully taking control of this region.

Secondly, I want to thank Majistan (UN Delegate of The Real Nazi Europe) for his help in sending other nations from The Real Nazi Europe here to Israel.

Also, Military Command, I am still willing to assist and advise you if you want me to.

Ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer!

14/88
2 hours ago The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7840920
Gameplay forum -- Israel

I posted an XML feed there to determine probable natives. There was a griefing earlier today here.

Professed nazis need to leave this region pronto!
119 minutes ago The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes Israel's known invaders still in the region:

Cyraxia -- lead invader delegate (originally from the region "The Real Nazi Europe")

plus his endorsers (also from The Real Nazi Europe):

Topekkka
Carnagedan
Janislovia (at this writing this nation has departed the region)

Probable natives that were ejected earlier by "The Military Command" (now deat -- for griefing the region):

Eran Flicker
Chaiim
Lech Echol Chara

and there maybe others...

We will remain until the threat has passed.

Nations of Pacific Defenders and TITO...
22 minutes ago The Armed Republic of HUZZUH HUZZUH I wish for everyone to see this:

Be gone Nazi's, away from here and back to the abyss from whence you all came, or my friends will be forced to slay you all. How dare you all come here, and disrupt this land, like it was of green fields under a swift and beautiful sunrise, this land is a haven for those whom are faithful and honorable.

Your disgusting prescense is no longer a neccessity, you have fought and now you shall pay the ultimate price for your misguided actions.

And you shall not stay and be but a prescense of a hewn head, but go and suffer for your abundant crimes such as a criminal. Begone Begone Begone.

And to all indigenous personnal to whom it may concern, vote for me and let this disgusting prescense suffer alternatively.

Huzzuh Huzzuh!! to all
10 minutes ago The Armed Republic of HUZZUH HUZZUH change of plans vote for The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel

and this in another region:

7 minutes ago The Republic of Vippertoooth33 Dont go to Israel they are a filthy bunch of Jews. This is your leader and we are going to abandon this region and go to The Anti Nazi army. This region is going to be shut down. I repeat this region is going to be shut down.

note, this is a nation with 3 o's, so i'm guessing it's an imposter.

Thanks for the good muckraking, CG ;)

Here's yet another region / nations claiming to have supported what became a griefing in Israel:

Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.
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11 days ago
The Holy Empire of The Jewish Homeland Hello
I would like to wish everyone a good day and may our region live in peace!

9 days ago
The Unholy Dominion of Majistan
A D H H and Jewish Homeland were both ejected for being suspected jewish spies.

*exercises delegate powers again*

I only wish I had banned Emma... I mean... Nicoslovia... that filthy Irish tart with her cockney Londoner accent.

3 days ago
The Dictatorship of Janislovia
Way to go Maj. Let that be a lesson to all the newcomers, don't go aginst this mans word unless you wish to be ejected. Also, peace is for pussys.

1 day ago
The Unholy Dominion of Majistan
Janislovia has abandoned us for the Jews! As have others... and Cyraxia was a Jewish spy who was ejected for that region... Carnagedan, Janislovia and Cyraxia ARE JEWISH SPIES! :@ :@ :@

1 day ago The Unholy Dominion of Majistan
The region has been password protected until further notice... I will send the password to all nations in The REAL Nazi Europe...

23 hours ago The Unholy Dominion of Majistan Password lifted... Israel has been DEFEATED!

Hooray for Nazi Power !!!

Our plan succeeded... let's drink beer and watch strippers dance for paper money. =D

23 hours ago The Kingdom of Ergothia
Israel has been conquered, and the Nazis reign. Let this be a message to all who dare to oppose the Nazi regions.

F**K YOU MT ARMY! AHAHAHA!!!

Highlighted emphasis in above posts is mine.

i'm actually more concenrned about the language..

9 days ago The Unholy Dominion of Majistan A D H H and Jewish Homeland were both ejected for being suspected jewish spies.

*exercises delegate powers again*

I only wish I had banned Emma... I mean... Nicoslovia... that filthy Irish tart with her cockney Londoner accent.

23 hours ago The Unholy Dominion of Majistan Password lifted... Israel has been DEFEATED!

Hooray for Nazi Power !!!

Our plan succeeded... let's drink beer and watch strippers dance for paper money. =D

23 hours ago The Kingdom of Ergothia Israel has been conquered, and the Nazis reign. Let this be a message to all who dare to oppose the Nazi regions.

F**K YOU MT ARMY! AHAHAHA!!!

10 hours ago The Unholy Dominion of Majistan I have noticed recently that several members of this region haven't been logging on regularly... so if they allow their accounts to be deleted, F*CK 'EM! They won't be welcome back if they make new ones.

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1 day ago
The Empire of Saxonaz
Im with you on this one Blood - Honor. We, the people of Saxonaz use the same flag as these other nations to show unity and organization. How will people take us seriously if we aren't organized? How can we make a REAL difference if we don't fight back in an organized manner. USE THIS FLAG!!!!!! It works,, its easy to recognize, and it stands for what and who we are.

1 day ago
The Free Land of Aryan Nationalisim
YES YES YES!!!

USE THE FLAG!!

RISE UP!

The Nation of
Aryan Nationalisim

1 day ago
The Republic of Hitlers Brownshirts
I REPEAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A REGIONAL FLAG THAT EVERYONE HAS TO USE. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

1 day ago
The Republic of Hitlers Brownshirts
Before we know it my dream of taking over a region is about to become true.

1 day ago
The Republic of Goebbels II
Happy new year to all!

1 day ago
The Republic of Hitlers Brownshirts
and it has. The Nazis have now taken over Israel with the help of our allies.

8 hours ago The Dictatorship of Chunx
*SEIG HEIL*!!!

Now its time to go spread the word, in a very nice proper way that wont piss off the MODS, will make us look GREAT, and make the slime sound like trash.!!!!!

CHUNX

55 minutes ago
The Republic of Blitzkriegers
the military command has been deleted for griefing Israel we now dont have command over that region but this is the person who was once the controller of the Military command and I now have applied for UN membership. So I hope I can become the leader of the militant wing of this region once again.

36 minutes ago The Republic of Hitlers Brownshirts
I have looked at Israel. It looks like we dont have power over it anymore. It is very sad for us anyway. I'll chnage the factbook. But it doesn't mean the end of us. We'll still take over NationStates. Have control over the place. be up there with the DEN and 10000 Islands. But it was out chance to take over those Jews.

I'll make BlitzKriegers the leader of the military Command once he has got his UN membership. And CHunx looks like he's outta here so I'll find another propaganda minister.

14 minutes ago
The Free Land of Aryan Nationalisim
chunx has been recruited to join The True North Strong, as have I ,and im sure a few more of us have already went over there. Were all friends over there.

Highlighted emphasis in the above posts is mine.

BTW -- "Vipertoooth33" (with the extra "o") has been reported as being an imposter nation via "Getting Help"

I find it quite useful to simply disconnect delegate powers from founder powers in my region. That way they can invade until the sun grows cold, but I retain control. Shame so many regions fall due to one check box.

that checkbox isn't always the problem ;)

there are still regions which were created before founders existed, there are regions where the founders ceased to exist (either because of inactivity or rule violations)

and then there are regions where the foundernation isn't in the region itself, so that gives the delegate regional control as well, no matter how many times you hit that checkbox

I find it quite useful to simply disconnect delegate powers from founder powers in my region. That way they can invade until the sun grows cold, but I retain control. Shame so many regions fall due to one check box.

In addition to Crazy Girl's excellent comments, I would like to note that Israel lacks a living founder.

We in Pacific Defenders and the other defenders are willing to stay on to assist the natives to refound the region if necessary. Otherwise we certainly are glad to help.

sence when is it wrong to be happy a region was invaided
it seems that the den would go around the pacifics like once or twice a week posting there recint victorys, so what if the invaider was deated, that happens all the time to

would you all be complaining if israel invaided nazi europe and the del was deated yet israel had celabrated

If anyone wants to voice approval of an invasion,it's their business.

As long as they're not a UN nation endorsing the griefer delegate,it doesn't matter what they say.

Speaking of endorsing delegates,you're calling a nation that's a week old at best,a native and endorsing him as the delegate? I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.

You have no idea who he is,he could very well be a multi of a nation already in the region or a spy.If he wakes up and griefs the region himself,you could conceiveably catch hell for supporting him.

If anyone wants to voice approval of an invasion,it's their business.

As long as they're not a UN nation endorsing the griefer delegate,it doesn't matter what they say.

Speaking of endorsing delegates,you're calling a nation that's a week old at best,a native and endorsing him as the delegate? I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.

You have no idea who he is,he could very well be a multi of a nation already in the region or a spy.If he wakes up and griefs the region himself,you could conceiveably catch hell for supporting him.

Thanks for that advisory Ubedarn.
On that recommendation we began again to canvass known natives to the region. Some had indeed were/are already endorsing the current delegate.

Nevertheless a region that has suffered as many invasions and attempts thereof as Israel has made it especially challenging to determine the nativity of nations there.

The Mods had earlier cleared the banlist and removed password protection.
Because of Shlimasel's latest ejection of the oldest apparent native of the region plus as of this writing two others I have reported him to NS Moderation via Getting Help (see below for the record of his actions):

Regional Happenings

* 8 minutes ago: The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 8 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel ejected The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu from the region.
* 9 minutes ago: The Theocracy of Devil Israel departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 9 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel ejected The Theocracy of Devil Israel from the region.
* 9 minutes ago: The Disputed Territories of Oppressed Palestine departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 9 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel ejected The Disputed Territories of Oppressed Palestine from the region.

sence when is it wrong to be happy a region was invaided
it seems that the den would go around the pacifics like once or twice a week posting there recint victorys, so what if the invaider was deated, that happens all the time to

would you all be complaining if israel invaided nazi europe and the del was deated yet israel had celabrated

It needs to be noted here for the record that Pacific Defenders and TITO enter the region following NS Moderation action against the griefer nation of "The Military Command". I have observed NS Moderation aggressively defend the integrity of Nazi regions as well as this obviously Jewish one. To do otherwise is to sanction flaming.

The reality is that any region without a founder is up for grabs, whether the natives like it or not, as long as natives are not ejected to retain power.

Trying to get people into trouble in this way is tiresome. It’s good to see that at the time I write this no one has been deleted for what’s happened in Israel, apart from the ex-delegate who wrote the following for the region's World Factbook Entry:

“Palestinians can now return to your homeland. Something which you kicked them out when the State of Israel was created in 1948 and made them live under the gun in The West Bank and Gaza Strip and in great poverty.”

What he writes is true. And there's a lot more that could be added about the brutality of the Israelis towards their Palestinian serfs and to the millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps, denied the right of return to their native land.

And for anyone interested, Greengarden Lanes, the creator of this thread, sounds very much like Nolaerie.


Please refrain from soapbox shouting. Moderation is not a forum for political debate.

The reality is that any region without a founder is up for grabs, whether the natives like it or not, as long as natives are not ejected to retain power.

Trying to get people into trouble in this way is tiresome. It’s good to see that at the time I write this no one has been deleted for what’s happened in Israel, apart from the ex-delegate who wrote the following for the region's World Factbook Entry:

“Palestinians can now return to your homeland. Something which you kicked them out when the State of Israel was created in 1948 and made them live under the gun in The West Bank and Gaza Strip and in great poverty.”

What he writes is true...

And for anyone interested, Greengarden Lanes, the creator of this thread, sounds very much like Nolaerie.

Um -- no there is only one Paradoxical Paradise of Nolaerie.

The Mods had earlier cleared the banlist and removed password protection.
Because of Shlimasel's latest ejection of the oldest apparent native of the region plus as of this writing two others I have reported him to NS Moderation via Getting Help (see below for the record of his actions):

Unfortunately for you,I doubt that the mods will do anything.I don't see where Shlimasel has done anything wrong(yet).As far as I know,the cap on eject/ban of natives by a delegate is 10% whether it's an invader or native delegate.He should be ok as long as he doesn't exceed 10%.

What should be of concern is that he has no cap on non native eject/banning.He can wake up again and ban you and all your endorsers because you're threatening his delegacy.

I could be wrong but that's the way I understand the situation.

Unfortunately for you,I doubt that the mods will do anything.I don't see where Shlimasel has done anything wrong(yet).As far as I know,the cap on eject/ban of natives by a delegate is 10% whether it's an invader or native delegate.He should be ok as long as he doesn't exceed 10%.

What should be of concern is that he has no cap on non native eject/banning.He can wake up again and ban you and all your endorsers because you're threatening his delegacy.

I could be wrong but that's the way I understand the situation.


a little addition to this from an another player..

if he's an invader delegate (this can also be a native with only the most endorsements in the region because of non native endorsements, coggy once made a very nice post on this, i'll add the lik in this post later), he can only make some tactical ejections, 10% is often used as a guideline, but from what i know, there isn't really a set percentage. also, he must unban the natives immediatly. he can't leave them on the banlist.
he can ban as many non natives as he wants.

an internally elected delegate can ban or eject natives but not toomany, an often quoted guideline is 40%, but again, this isn't a set percentage from what i know.

Unfortunately for you,I doubt that the mods will do anything.I don't see where Shlimasel has done anything wrong(yet).As far as I know,the cap on eject/ban of natives by a delegate is 10% whether it's an invader or native delegate.He should be ok as long as he doesn't exceed 10%.

What should be of concern is that he has no cap on non native eject/banning.He can wake up again and ban you and all your endorsers because you're threatening his delegacy.

I could be wrong but that's the way I understand the situation.

Though I was injected into this situation mistakenly, I nevertheless take pleasure to once again read of the superior gaming skills displayed by Ubedarn (and to praise him for them).

a little addition to this from an another player..

if he's an invader delegate (this can also be a native with only the most endorsements in the region because of non native endorsements, coggy once made a very nice post on this, i'll add the lik(e) in this post later), he can only make some tactical ejections, 10% is often used as a guideline, but from what i know, there isn't really a set percentage. also, he must unban the natives immediatly. he can't leave them on the banlist.
he can ban as many non natives as he wants.

an internally elected delegate can ban or eject natives but not toomany, an often quoted guideline is 40%, but again, this isn't a set percentage from what i know.

Same goes for Crazy Girl -- Another superior gamer! ;)

It'll be very interesting to see what happens later whenever Greengarden Lanes logs on. He will get to see that apparently his appeal to Israel's current delegate Shlimasel to clear the banlist worked (as noted below):
Regional Happenings

* 3 hours ago: The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 3 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel removed The Disputed Territories of Oppressed Palestine from the regional ban list.
* 3 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel removed The Theocracy of Devil Israel from the regional ban list.
* 3 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel removed The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu from the regional ban list.
* 3 hours ago: The Theocracy of Atheismia arrived from The West Pacific.
* 4 hours ago: The Community of HCB Cricket Fanatics departed this region for New Zealand
* 4 hours ago: The Community of HCB Cricket Fanatics arrived from New Zealand.
* 5 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Demonic Lawyers departed this region for Wolfram and Hart
* 5 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Demonic Lawyers arrived from Galts Gulch.

Also -- some selected Civil Headquarters posts that may have figured into the latest developments:

The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes
Check out the posts in Gameplay forum -- Israel

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=386252

Thanks to Ballotonia for posting the following XML screen of this region before this latest invasion / griefing by the combined forces from NAZI EUROPE, The Nazis and The REAL Nazi Europe/Supreme Nazi Europe.

The first nations listed usually indicate rank of nativity in the region.

Per request, here's an older XML of Israel. XML December 23, 2004:

Quote:
<NAME>israel</NAME>
<FACTBOOK>Kol od balevav pnima
Nefesh yehudi homia
Ulfatei mizrach, kadima
Ain lezion, zofia
Od lo avda tikvateynu
Hatikva bat shnot alpayim
Liyot am hophshi, beartzeynu
Eretz zion veyrushalayim!

This, my friends, this Hatikva, the hope of Israel. Let it be our hope as well. I will do everything in my power to make this region safe and democratic. In turn, I ask my fellow Israelis to endorse me in order to make sure this never happens again.

Shana tova ve hag sameah!

***Defended by ADN and GLA***</FACTBOOK>
<NUMNATIONS>40</NUMNATIONS>
<NATIONS> mordechai_vanunu: ale-yarok: shalom-makers: bwahahaland: mosheville: beth_yisrael: devil_israel: acre_union: the_wise_and_worthy: the_gaza_strippers: eisheth_zenunim: new_zero_kanada: oppressed_palestine: bahais: zvika_hadar: 101110111: flabberbusting: counts_blasphemy: googlia: landsmonkey: ahavael: kraketoa: am_hashem: zion_of_kahane: chanters: nielanath: the_haganah: peels: ernie_ii: hasidic_jews: jewmany: katsy: dondionus: eran_flicker: belshazzaria: new_jewgoslavia: chaiim: shmil: sunyan: poctob-ha-dohy </NATIONS>
<DELEGATE>bahais</DELEGATE>
<DELEGATEVOTES>2</DELEGATEVOTES>
<FOUNDER>polish_jew</FOUNDER>

13 hours ago
The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel

I want to thank everyone for endorsing me... We have to stomp out the proselytizing assimilators . Green Garden GREAT FOR PUTTING THE HATIKVA...NAZI's are meaningless weak people who are sheltered behind there hate.

12 hours ago
The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes

*Regional Happenings -- Israel

* 8 minutes ago: The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 8 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel ejected The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu from the region.
* 9 minutes ago: The Theocracy of Devil Israel departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 9 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel ejected The Theocracy of Devil Israel from the region.
* 9 minutes ago: The Disputed Territories of Oppressed Palestine departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 9 minutes ago: The Most Serene Republic of Shlimasel ejected The Disputed Territories of Oppressed Palestine from the region.

Due to the ejection of some of the oldest natives of the region I have filed a complaint with NS Moderation

...

8 hours ago
The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes

Greetings everyone,

Thank you for your support this evening.

I am/was seeking the UN delegacy for Israel simply to clear the banlist. I have publicly disagreed with the delegate Shlimasel for ejecting three natives of the region -- in particular its oldest one of the region, Mordechai Vanunu (which by the way was the nation that reported the griefing of the region by the now-deat nazi delegate The Military Command).

I formally appeal to the delegate Shlimasel to clear the banlist of at least Mordechai Vanunu -- Were it not for him the nazis would've succeeded in taking this region.

And I wish to remind you that in referring to the XML screen of the region of December 23 made by Ballotonia, all three of the nations the delegate ejected (Mordechai Vanunu, Devil Israel and Oppressed Palestine) are listed as natives; so the banlist should be cleared.

My nation came to this region to prevent those nations who had endorsed the original lead invader nazi delegate "The Military Command" from keeping control of the region. I reported and recorded those nations. Upon notice of this public pronouncement, those nations one-by-one left the region (and most moved to the region Supreme Nazi Europe).

Seeing Shlimasel's posts that were complementary to this region prompted me to endorse him. Certainly your/his World Factbook Entry restores the apparent original intent of the region.

I am once again publicly appealing to both the delegate Shlimasel and the other natives and/or endorsers of him to clear the banlist. Shlimasel's fine WFE statement: "...A home to speak, and a shining beam of democracy in the MID EAST..." demands no less but to clear the banlist and afford a return to the region of these nations -- none of which had UN status at the time of their ejection.

I welcome public comment with regards to my stance.

--Greengarden Lanes

4 hours ago
The Community of HCB Cricket Fanatics

Great to see the Nazis out of Israel, at last!

2 hours ago
The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu

Good that you decided to remove us three from the ban-list.
It still makes me mad I got ejected, after all what I have done for the region.

I was around here when the founder were still alive. Only few nations remain from that time, less than a handful of nations (I think less than three). I've seen at least four invasions from which I have reported the latest attack as illegal to the mods, and the one before that... In that one I was ejecting the crashers to keep Israel in the hands of the Israelis.


And one final observation -- I see that not only is Greengarden Lanes hasn't been ejected -- and delegate Shlimasel is endorsing him/her!

The irony of it. It's just too good. Greengarden Lanes calls in her Pacific Defenders to support Shlimasel as the native delegate. What does Shlimasel do when he wakes up and finds he's the new delegate? He ejects all the nations who are pro-Palestinian, or who are at least against Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and are opposed to its nuclear program. In other words Greengarden Lanes seems to have been instrumental in making someone the delegate who may be even more extremist than the far fringes of the Likud. Who knows.

Well sometime rectifying a wrongful situation takes time and can get messy.
I appreciate all the posts in this thread even those from my detractor Fascist Ideals. Just wanted to let you know that as noted by Nolaerie then-delegate Shlimasel unbanned the three apparent natives of the region at my urging. Additionally and to Shlimasel's credit this nation did not eject mine -- indeed, instead I gained an endorsement from him/her in my quest for the delegacy of the region (which I was just elected to in the past hour or so).

My delegacy is intended to be short-lived. UN nations in Israel have been urged to endorse the region's oldest native nation, Mordechai Vanunu. Additionally, I ejected just one nation, the expressed nazi puppet of Panzerfaust 88 "A D H H", which had publicly support the nazi invasion.

Thanks for everyone's posts and questions answered.

An update for your information; as posted in Israel's Civil Headquarters.
Also, I have made a formal request of NS Moderation regarding the situation via Getting Help -- Thank you in advance for your advice in this matter.

Attention nations of Israel --

I have directly conveyed a public statement to all UN members here plus a few known natives. Any natives that wish to read it please contact me and I will share it with you.

In sum it says that all UN nations should foremost endorse without reservation the oldest known nation/native here in Israel, Mordechai Vanunu.

I plan to stay on here for another day or so to assist this region in security matters. Finally, in the remaining hours of my delegacy, any suspicious nations entering the region henceforth with be ejected without explaination -- I have received word from allies that another plot is in the works thanks to the same nazi bunch who had endorsed the griefer invader and thankfully now-deat nation of The Military Command.

On behalf of Pacific Defenders we are honored to support Israel. Also I wish to acknowledge the support of my allies in TITO and The MT Army for safeguarding Israel and chasing away the invaders.

Greengarden Lanes/Jackie Clarkson/Nolaerie et al, you got yourself into this situation, and I'm happy to see that it has taken up so much of your time to extricate yourself from it. The poor mods, having to read your tiresome, protracted self-justification all over again (coming not long after your unwarranted interference in Nazi Deutschland Axis).

Some people never learn. *Sighs*


Actually I don't really feel personally burdened by this matter.
To be sure we would want to have all our endeavors go smoothly.
Yet a sign to both our humanity and maturity is to face squarely any challenges that might arise.

Your reference to Jackie Clarkson and Nolaerie is not of my concern -- nor should other actions beyond the region of Israel belong in this thread. So I respectfully request of Fascist Ideals to quit soap-boxing.

4 minutes ago The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes

*Regional Happenings

* 16 minutes ago: The 18 Years Of Prisonment of Mordechai Vanunu replaced The Commonwealth of Greengarden Lanes as UN Delegate.*

Congratulations.
A number of defenders have departed the region but will be available on a moment's notice should the need arise. I will remain for a few more days but ultimately Israel's security is in the hands of its natives.

Just a reminder to check out the thread in Gameplay entitled Israel
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=386252

for XML posts denoting the oldest nations of the region.
Even if your nation is not in the UN, it has an important role to play here so please communicate your concerns here and in the Gameplay forum thread.

It was an honor to be delegate but better that the oldest native of the region lead Israel into full security.


It looks like the fiasco Greengarden Lanes caused in Israel has been resolved. So I don't see much point in this thread any more. Actually, there was never much point to this thread at all... at least regarding the original reason for its creation. But *some* people like to waste the mods' time...

Oh well!

It is my belief that the record speaks for itself that NS Moderation would had not gotten involved in Israel were it not for the rule-breaking invasion of the region; leading to the deletion of the professed nazi nation "The Military Command"; and that was heartily endorsed by nations from three professed nazi regions.

I hardly see what is exactly "the fiasco Greengarden Lanes caused in Israel".
Of course I am not a NS Moderator. And I think it is rather presumptious of you, Mr. Fascist Ideals, to suggest that you have any line on what the mods might think in this matter.

We of Pacific Defenders are proud to have afforded Israel to recover from the griefing and failure to distribute the password caused by the professed nazi ex-nation of The Military Command.

A good day to everyone :)