NationStates Jolt Archive


Founder Status Missing

Nashborough
28-12-2004, 17:36
Nashborough is the founder of Derlavai and it has resided in Derlavai since its founding. Nashborough is not listed as the founder nor does it have access to regional controls. It did at one time. It was removed quite some time ago during a system upgrade, but was not really an issue until recently when new nations began joining the region. I am not (or any other nation for that matter) able to access regional control (and therefore modify our now incorrect introduction).

I humbly request to have Nashborough restored to Founder status.

Thank you for your time.

(Since Original posting of this message, The Region of Derlavai has been invaded. With no Country as Founder Status, there is no way to repulse the unwanted.)
Grenval
30-12-2004, 03:29
This thread should probably go under the Moderation board, but I am just a lowly bystander without any fancy moderator magic.

And, I may be totally wrong on this, and please correct me if I am, but shouldn't this be in requested at the Getting Help page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/52546/page=help)? Again, I am not really sure, but just a hunch. Is that correct or not?
Grenval
30-12-2004, 03:38
I think my hunch may be wrong, but reporting it couldn't hurt, except make a poor moderator's day slightly longer, harder, and uglier by having to delete your stupid, stupid request that would all be my fault. :p

But here is a little discussion (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=382096&highlight=founder) about Founders, although because your problem is sort of like a game bug [which may be why it belongs in Technical and not Moderation] you might qualify for an "extreme circumstance."

[Edit] As you can see, it has been a long, hard, and ugly day for me, which is why I am so confused. At any rate, the "stupid, stupid" phrase was just a joke. I am not calling you stupid, I am calling my suggestion to use the Getting Help page stupid if it is indeed wrong. ;)

Grenval is soooo confused. "Ahhhhh!" :confused: :headbang: :confused:
Nashborough
30-12-2004, 17:24
I looked at several areas of the forum before settling on this area (technical), because the issue is a bug. I am merely asking to have a status restored that once existed, not have one newly bestowed upon my nation. I thought this would be appropriate to this area. If the consensus is otherwise, I will delete and repost elsewhere.

PS - If it helps anyone, I believe (although I would not swear to it) that the founder status left around the same time I dropped this nation from the UN.

Thank You in advance for any help.
Crazy girl
30-12-2004, 22:51
about when were you made founder, and when did you lose it again?
Grenval
31-12-2004, 00:54
I looked at several areas of the forum before settling on this area (technical), because the issue is a bug.

The moderators agreed with me. Yay! But 'tis no matter. There are times when I cannot decide between Gameplay, Moderation, and Technical as well.
The Most Glorious Hack
31-12-2004, 07:27
Okay, I did a lil' bit of digging.

Nashborough never had Founder controls. The region in question has no Founder, and no record of a Founder being taken away by Moderator action. Nor has it been refounded by someone else.

Nashborough is old enough to have created Derlavai before Founders were created, which would explain why Derlavai has no Founder.

PS - If it helps anyone, I believe (although I would not swear to it) that the founder status left around the same time I dropped this nation from the UN. Yup. You never had Founder access, just Delegate access.
Aligned Planets
31-12-2004, 13:38
So does Nashborough get Founder status under the new NS Gaming Regulations, or does he/she have to contend with just UN Delegate status?
Komokom
31-12-2004, 14:35
I would asume it ( Nashborough ) will not be given access as Founder ...

While they may have been Delegate since founding, etc ... until they dropped U.N. member-ship, etc ... Founders are not normally put in place in a region unless there are ... extreme circumstances ... if I recall right ...

One also feels if they were to install Nashborough as Founder, even so, more research my be required into the matter before they decide to do so. I would conclude it is unlikely, how-ever, that they will decide to do so any - way ...

Or as the Magic 8 Ball might say " All Signs Point To NO "
Aligned Planets
31-12-2004, 14:46
Aye Komokom, I agree - but perhaps with more extensive investigation there could be an end to this situation. If Nashborough's Region is being 'crashed', although not against NS rules, there must be a way for the Region to defend itself!
Nashborough
03-01-2005, 16:09
Okay, I did a lil' bit of digging.

Nashborough never had Founder controls. The region in question has no Founder, and no record of a Founder being taken away by Moderator action. Nor has it been refounded by someone else.

Nashborough is old enough to have created Derlavai before Founders were created, which would explain why Derlavai has no Founder.

Yup. You never had Founder access, just Delegate access.

Ah, I see. That explains it then. It is just coincidental that the Founder status addition/Delegate drop was around the same time. Well, in that case, I would appreciate if the Moderators would bestow upon me Founder status, but I would also understand if they do not. (Everyone would ask for it)

I at least have a decent explanation. I thank you for your time and effort.

Unless anyone has something else to add, I will consider this matter closed.

Nashborough.