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We have several armies in our region, and they are dying to fight with each other, so I have a request, or question. Is it possible that is both armies keep on ejecting each other, that the mods ignore it? The region is "TheYoungWorld" (no spaces), and the founder has left the place, just so our armies can fight. It is kinda like a warzone, but with a founder to fall back on.
Is it okay, if a founder gives any random delegate permission to eject as s/he please? Will the delegate still be punished, if s/he does?

Is it okay, if a founder gives any random delegate permission to eject as s/he please?

I sure hope not. Anyone could say that the Founder gave them permission to eject as many as they please.

Will the delegate still be punished, if s/he does?

As I said above, I hope so, as anyone could claim that the Founder gave them permission; it could also be used as a tactic to invade, grief or a region, and then claim innocence because a "Founder gave them prmission."

I sure hope not. Anyone could say that the Founder gave them permission to eject as many as they please.



As I said above, I hope so, as anyone could claim that the Founder gave them permission; it could also be used as a tactic to invade, grief or a region, and then claim innocence because a "Founder gave them prmission."

The delegate will have to have proof. I can have a the founder post the permission here.

The delegate will have to have proof. I can have a the founder post the permission here.

As long as there's proof, I don't see why not.

As long as there's proof, I don't see why not.

We just want to enhance our gaming experience, and with the warzones are to many parties involved.
If the mods have a problem with the natives already in the region, the founder can send them to the RR any time. Problem solved :cool:

i remember when maine road left the game, the delegate ejected all nations from blue moon, and claimed to have the founder's permission, but he was still deleted.

i remember when maine road left the game, the delegate ejected all nations from blue moon, and claimed to have the founder's permission, but he was still deleted.

That was my point, but if there was proof, like here posted on the forums or what-not, then, I would think that would be valid proof.

i remember when maine road left the game, the delegate ejected all nations from blue moon, and claimed to have the founder's permission, but he was still deleted.

"Claiming" and "proving" are two different things. If I get a modword in this thread, I can have the founder in here too. We just want to hold wargames on our own region, without having to bother what the natives are. Obviously we don't want to eject natives, but when a mod states the they are a problem, our founder can eject them before the games start. Most of those soldiers are noobs, and we don't want them deleted just because they get enthousiastic.

Le sigh...

Please hold off on the speculation. This is a question that can only be answered by a Game Mod, so I'm not sure why anyone else is posting.

Please hold off on the speculation. This is a question that can only be answered by a Game Mod, so I'm not sure why anyone else is posting.

I was bringing up valid point as to what I thought were concerns with the proposal which is allowed.

Is it okay, if a founder gives any random delegate permission to eject as s/he please?
No.
Will the delegate still be punished, if s/he does?
Yes.
The delegate will have to have proof. I can have a the founder post the permission here.
"Founder" is not "Moderator". The Founder does not have the authority to grant this kind of permission. If the Founder wants nations mass-ejected, then the Founder has to do it, personally.

Additionally, we don't have time to process "Founder permission" notices on any kind of regular basis.
As long as there's proof, I don't see why not.
That was my point, but if there was proof, like here posted on the forums or what-not, then, I would think that would be valid.
Tuesday Heights: You, like many other players, have your opinions about what the rules should be. However, I need to remind you that you are not a Moderator and that you should not post in a manner that would confuse people to think otherwise.


I was bringing up valid point as to what I thought were concerns with the proposal which is allowed.
That's fine, in-and-of-itself. The problem comes in when ordinary players start sounding like they're speaking with authority, which they don't. It's not a problem with ordinary players explicitly claiming to be Moderators, merely a problem with the choice-of-words used.

A policy question was asked, the topic author didn't specify that only Moderators respond, so ordinary players may offer their opinions. But, it must be kept clear who does or does not speak with authority.


--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Tuesday Heights: You, like many other players, have your opinions about what the rules should be. However, I need to remind you that you are not a Moderator and that you should not post in a manner that would confuse people to think otherwise.

As far as I've seen it, and have been told in the past, that if people can't figure out I'm not a Moderator (as it doesn't say so to the left of the screen), then, that's their problem, not mine.

IIRC, Karma posted something about not having to put a mod disclaimer when we post because of the fact that it says if you're a moderator or not near your post count.

Edit: Upon Cog's edit... I don't plan on changing the way I write on NS, just like I don't plan on changing it in RL, this is how I write, speak, etc. So, if people are assuming I'm a Moderator based on the way I'm typing, would one suggest I just shouldn't post in Moderation and/or Technical anymore?

I'm not trying to be snippy or snide or anything, but if my use of the English language may cause me to get in trouble down the line, I'd rather know now avoiding the trouble it may cause.

As far as I've seen it, and have been told in the past, that if people can't figure out I'm not a Moderator (as it doesn't say so to the left of the screen), then, that's their problem, not mine.

IIRC, Karma posted something about not having to put a mod disclaimer when we post because of the fact that it says if you're a moderator or not near your post count.

Edit: Upon Cog's edit... I don't plan on changing the way I write on NS, just like I don't plan on changing it in RL, this is how I write, speak, etc. So, if people are assuming I'm a Moderator based on the way I'm typing, would one suggest I just shouldn't post in Moderation and/or Technical anymore?
Hmmm.... It's possible that I'm mistaken. I've made mistakes before. I'll have to consult with Karma and the other Mods and get back to you.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

I was bringing up valid point as to what I thought were concerns with the proposal which is allowed.

Yet it was a point that was not needed because only a moderator can answer this!
It's been said countless times that speculation is unwelcome. If you can't find a link to where a moderator has previously ruled on a similar case, or to where a rule is mentioned in a sticky somewhere, don't post. Your opinion on something doesn't matter in the end, because it is the moderators who decide what goes and what doesn't.

Yet it was a point that was not needed because only a moderator can answer this!
It's been said countless times that speculation is unwelcome. If you can't find a link to where a moderator has previously ruled on a similar case, or to where a rule is mentioned in a sticky somewhere, don't post. Your opinion on something doesn't matter in the end, because it is the moderators who decide what goes and what doesn't.

Not what Cog said about this thread:

A policy question was asked, the topic author didn't specify that only Moderators respond, so ordinary players may offer their opinions.

Hold it everybody! It was just a minor concern of ejection. We now simply wont eject, and win wars by numbers only. Delegate still has control, but may only eject direct threats to the delegacy, and unban immediately.
I already knew that TH was no moderator. The problem with TH's posts is that they don't look like they are just suggestions.

Hmmm.... It's possible that I'm mistaken. I've made mistakes before. I'll have to consult with Karma and the other Mods and get back to you.

I just did a search, but it doesn't let me go back far enough... I don't know if Karma was the thread starter or not, I want to say he was... but I know the thread will Stickied for a while at the top of the Moderation forum and/or Technical forums.

I just did a search, but it doesn't let me go back far enough... I don't know if Karma was the thread starter or not, I want to say he was... but I know the thread will Stickied for a while at the top of the Moderation forum and/or Technical forums.

Actually, it was started by GMC Military Arms. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=337610)

Actually, it was started by GMC Military Arms. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=337610)

Thanks, Goober... I knew it was one of them! :p

hey tuesday