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Would have been the first proposal on the proposal listings today. It would have had a chance at reaching quorum by tonight, had it not been deleted.

It went like this


CATEGORY: Human Rights
TITLE: Limit Capital Punishment
STRENGTH: Significant


NOTING the absence of laws regarding capital punishment...

The UN HEREBY:


1. DEFINES

A) First-degree murder as a murder that is premeditated; committed with malice aforethought.

B) Treason as the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.



2. DECLARES

A) The death penalty can only be imposed in crimes where the offence committed is first-degree murder, treason, or multiple counts of rape.

AND

B) In cases where the crime committed is first-degree murder or treason, the death penalty can only be imposed if the intent to commit the aforementioned offence is proven.


3. RECOGNIZES

Section 1 and Section 2 of this resolution applies to all nations that have legalized capital punishment. Any nations that have outlawed capital punishment are only affected by Section 1.


Why was it removed?

Wrong category. That limits the rights of a nation. Human Rights is a category that expands.

Wrong category. That limits the rights of a nation. Human Rights is a category that expands.

It limit the rights of the nation, but that is pretty much what every resolution does. It is also attempting to serve human rights by limiting the use of capital punishment.

3. RECOGNIZES

Section 1 and Section 2 of this resolution applies to all nations that have legalized capital punishment. Any nations that have outlawed capital punishment are only affected by Section 1.
UN Resolutions are not optional depending on national law. It's all or nothing, no way to opt out. Section 3 defies that standard.

UN Resolutions are not optional depending on national law. It's all or nothing, no way to opt out. Section 3 defies that standard.
they aren't being allowed to opt out. it just states that the proposal doesn't change the way nations are run for those nations who don't have capital punishment at all

This proposal reached its deadline and autoexpired. Official records indicate that no UN proposal with the word "capital" was recently deleted. Please remember that proposal expirations occur every 12 hours, at both the major and minor daily updates. A proposal deadline is only publicly listed as a particular day; it may expire at the major or minor update. It depends upon what time-of-day the proposal was submitted at.

Wrong category. That limits the rights of a nation. Human Rights is a category that expands.
Incorrect. This proposal is in the correct category.

"Human Rights" increases the civil/personal freedoms of the citizens of UN member nations. Limiting capital punishment increases civil/personal freedoms.

UN Resolutions are not optional depending on national law. It's all or nothing, no way to opt out. Section 3 defies that standard.
Not exactly correct.

In this case, I think we can let this slide. The UN resolution can, in essence, be rewritten to say "UN member nations shall only be allowed to impose the death penalty in cases where...." If a particular national government chooses not to employ the death penalty at all, then that's the governments perogative.

This proposal is legal and may be resubmitted as-is.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator

Thanks for the clarification, Cogitation.

"A proposal deadline is only publicly listed as a particular day; it may expire at the major or minor update. It depends upon what time-of-day the proposal was submitted at."

I didn't know that the proposals were subject to twice daily removal. What time do these updates take place?

I've had a "few" proposals run through the queue and this is what I've come to learn:

The server updates for proposals is not always when you might think. I like to consider that there is +/- 12 hours to the date listed on the deadline, and I start copying a list of UN Delegates who have endorsed my proposal a full day prior to the expiration date and updating that list every several hours.

I vaguely remember seeing proposals with a Thursday expiration disappear in what is technically "Friday" and I've also seen some Friday expiration proposals go at the same time. I could be misremembering things, but bottom line aim for getting your endorsements a bit before the expiration date.

I then use my list of endorsers to telegram and first *thank* the Delegates that endorsed my resolution and ask them to consider doing so again.