NationStates Jolt Archive


Why was General Powell determined DOS?

Praetonia
01-12-2004, 13:23
The title is pretty self explanitory.
Kwaswhakistan
01-12-2004, 15:53
I would also like to know the reason (just adding my name to the list)
Tuesday Heights
01-12-2004, 16:13
/me sighs.

There's already a thread about this...
Euroslavia
01-12-2004, 16:57
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377747
Praetonia
01-12-2004, 19:03
Well that thread doesnt have a reason either, but thanks anyway.
Kwaswhakistan
01-12-2004, 19:31
maybe if we only got an answer we wouldn't have to wonder why he was DOS.....
Melkor Unchained
01-12-2004, 19:58
Apparently he had a whole bunch of multi rings at various times, but I never saw them, and I wasnt the one who had him deleted.
Martian City-States
01-12-2004, 21:24
And I've known him for 8 months; he's not a cheater, nor is he guilty of being a multi.
Kwaswhakistan
01-12-2004, 21:39
I've known him probably almost as long as MCS, no way I would have thought he would have these...... possibly just some more of those false defender accusations or something... sure I know you all can't take my word for it.. but every time we raided when I was under his command, it was totally legal

edit: oh and wow, a moderator finally actually responded... CONSPIRACY!
Right thinking whites
01-12-2004, 21:46
i rember when i first start to play it was deated and the den was invaided
Kwaswhakistan
01-12-2004, 21:56
yep, I remember that, where the supposed "defenders" invaded us.
Right thinking whites
01-12-2004, 22:17
well you know what they say about payback
Pope Hope
03-12-2004, 06:51
So the recorded reason is a vast multi ring?

Gen Powell did always seem to be one of the most law-abiding invaders. That's disturbing.
New Florence Marie
04-12-2004, 19:01
Can someone please explain to me why my senior puppet nation of General Powell, as well as several other alternates, have been tabbed Delete On Sight (DOS?)

I have asked several moderators for an answer to this question (as far many other players,) and no response has been forthcoming. I would appreciate a response.
Tuesday Heights
04-12-2004, 19:03
Creating multiple threads on this subject, as others have already done so in Moderation, is ill-advised.
New Florence Marie
04-12-2004, 21:45
This is the first thread on this subject particularly, TH. The other thread dealt with Biotherm. I do understand what you are saying, of course.

By the way, the mods reinstated Biotherm's nations, but never responded to my question. Ergo, the present thread.
Gothic Kitty
04-12-2004, 22:05
Can someone please explain to me why my senior puppet nation of General Powell, as well as several other alternates, have been tabbed Delete On Sight (DOS?)

I have asked several moderators for an answer to this question (as far many other players,) and no response has been forthcoming. I would appreciate a response.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377985 is where Melkor Unchained stated:

Apparently he had a whole bunch of multi rings at various times, but I never saw them, and I wasnt the one who had him deleted.

The fact that MU didn't see them means nothing. Apparently another moderator saw it, and made a note of it in the modcenter. When this is said by an outstanding moderator as MU, you don't need to question anymore. That is my opinion.
Tuesday Heights
04-12-2004, 22:42
Thank-you, GK, can we now lock this thread?
Cogitation
05-12-2004, 05:59
I spoke to the Moderator responsible a while ago. General Powell was declared DOS for multiple incidents of multying and griefing using puppets. I'll need to talk to that Mod again to double-check, though.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator
New Florence Marie
05-12-2004, 19:57
Thank You for the response, Moderator Cogitation. Please recall that I retired from active raiderplay and am NOT in charge of DEN (haven't been for months.) I only have (had) one nation in the UN and have several puppets (none of which are UN and therefore are not in any position to grief.) My nation of "General Powell" was located in the retirement region of The Old Raiding Club at the time of its deletion, and was not in active raider mode.

@TH: Why the concern for a "lock" on the thread? We still don't know why I was deleted (as I was not multying.)
New Florence Marie
05-12-2004, 20:02
I was law-abiding, Pope Hope; that is why this perplexes me. I am not sure which moderator believed I was multying, but that is untrue. Perhaps it was an honest mistake, but for this to happen to me twice is...well, not a coincidence.

I was not even an active raider when General Powell was deleted. DEN is under the command of General Franks. He and GEN Debugistan have led DEN through an amazing array of victories througout NS, and I have wholeheartedly applauded their success. I am not an active raider, though. Powell was not even UN at the time of his deletion, so I am even more disturbed that this nation (among all my puppets) was targeted.

I think the mod responsible was sending a larger message to the raider community. I am not sure why he used my nation to do this, though.
Tuesday Heights
05-12-2004, 20:07
@TH: Why the concern for a "lock" on the thread? We still don't know why I was deleted (as I was not multying.)

Because there's already a thread on this, http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377985, here in Moderation that you're also posting in.

You've been told multiing and griefing are the reasons, so, why does this need to continue clogging moderation?

File an appeal, admin@nationstates.net or salusa@nationstates.net. This has gone on long enough.
Tuesday Heights
05-12-2004, 20:08
I think the mod responsible was sending a larger message to the raider community. I am not sure why he used my nation to do this, though.

I highly doubt that.

File an appeal: admin@nationstates.net or salusa@nationstates.net; as I said in the other thread, this has gone on long enough.
Cassandrah
05-12-2004, 20:40
You've been told multiing and griefing are the reasons, so, why does this need to continue clogging moderation?


Because of:

I spoke to the Moderator responsible a while ago. General Powell was declared DOS for multiple incidents of multying and griefing using puppets. I'll need to talk to that Mod again to double-check, though.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator
Karmabaijan
05-12-2004, 20:42
We don't need multiple threads on the same subject people.
Tuesday Heights
05-12-2004, 21:26
Cassandrah, I was referring to the multiple threads, that's why I said "clogging Moderation." Though, I still think this should be locked until said Moderator comes forward, if the come forward at all.
New Florence Marie
05-12-2004, 22:53
Because there's already a thread on this, http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377985, here in Moderation that you're also posting in.

You've been told multiing and griefing are the reasons, so, why does this need to continue clogging moderation?

File an appeal, admin@nationstates.net or salusa@nationstates.net. This has gone on long enough.

"Clogging moderation?" Please. If you don't want to review this, TH, don't read this thread. As someone who has ABSOLUTELY no concern over this, you are spending an awful lot of time complaining about it.

And an appeal has been filed. Stop making assumptions and mind your own business. If you have nothing helpful to contribute, don't contribute. Simple.
Right thinking whites
05-12-2004, 23:00
And an appeal has been filed. Stop making assumptions and mind your own business. If you have nothing helpful to contribute, don't contribute. Simple.
good luck on your appeal i filled one in mid september and have yet to here back on it
Tuesday Heights
05-12-2004, 23:20
"Clogging moderation?" Please.

Considering I can count three threads that have asked why you are delete-on-sight, two fo which I do believe that were hijacked to ask, I do believe my "assumption" that this issue is "clogging moderation" is valid.

Since nobody is adding anything of value either way, and we're all sitting on our asses waiting for a moderator response, I think the most worthwhile venture would be to lock pending moderator review, which has been done in the past in the same set of circumstances.
Right thinking whites
05-12-2004, 23:51
were you not first deated back around may or so
the the den got invaided? right

if this is correct then there is a chance that the mod that did your dos order is not on the moderation staff any more and that could be why it is taking so long

btw for what its worth i agree with TH this probably should be locked for now until the mod resposable can post
Kwaswhakistan
06-12-2004, 03:16
hey tuesday heights, you aren't a mod yet. don't act like you are.
Neo England
06-12-2004, 03:44
...you aren't a mod yet. don't act like you are.

Tuesday Heights is doing nothing of the sort. Her comments are valid, moderation IS filling up with "general_powell" threads, AND it probably is best to lock this and other "general_powell" threads until Cogitation or another mod comes back with a confirmation and final words.

Until a mod does come back, all these posts are doing nothing, bar extending the length of the multiple threads on this subject. I also see this as "clogging" the Moderation forum.

The decision of the deletion has been made, again, as TH said, E-mail Admin at the address she supplied earlier, and wait for a moderator to come back.

Stop challenging TH for the sake of it, she knows much more about the game and how it works than most of the players on the site.
Katganistan
06-12-2004, 04:26
Ok, settle down.....

Really, no point in anyone posting anything more until Cogitation completes his investigation. Interested parties may bump this thread but please stop the cross arguing.
Kwaswhakistan
06-12-2004, 10:38
ah yah, I guess sorta sorry on my part... I've been having the worst possible month... it's not going well here.. that's why I try not to comment much...
New Hepzibah
10-12-2004, 18:13
Query. If a nation is deleted, whilst an appeal is in, how does he know if the appeals result?

Just asking
<it is about gen powell, obviuosly>
Cogitation
10-12-2004, 19:13
I thought word had gone out about this, already. Apparently not.

I spoke to the Moderator responsible (again). That Mod told me that General Powell was, indeed, declared DOS for repeated incidents of using puppets to UN multi and grief regions.

Query. If a nation is deleted, whilst an appeal is in, how does he know if the appeals result?
A deleted player (even a player permanently banned from NationStates) may file an appeal by E-mailing the Admins.

SalusaSecondus: salusa@nationstates.net
[violet]: admin@nationstates.net

It's preferable that you E-mail Salusa, as he has more time available to him than [violet].

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Praetonia
22-12-2004, 13:44
Out of interest, why did someone edit my post title and add some stupid smilie?
Komokom
23-12-2004, 06:09
Errr ...

From memory I thought that was there to begin with ... ( shrug )

* Errr, should this not be a lock - thread any - hoo ? What with Cog an the post he made just before the last one in here ... ?
Cogitation
23-12-2004, 06:33
I think Komokom is correct on both counts.

iLock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator