NationStates Jolt Archive


Why'd you edit out my sig?

Colodia
07-11-2004, 23:28
I understand the whole smily gig the last time. But this time, I don't see WHY I can't feature my mod quote!

Steph flamebaiting, should that be kept a secret or something? Did mods just wish that the event never happened and wanted to erase all traces of such an event?

It wasn't even much of a flamebait either....just Steph saying that the U.S. will turn into a theocracy and Scolo telling Steph to not flamebait...


SO WHERE'S THE PROBLEM HERE? IS IT MY BREATH? DID I FORGET TO PUT MY BRAIN ON THIS MORNING?

I'm just ticked that the 1st Amendment only applies to American soil only...
Hersfold
07-11-2004, 23:30
You don't need to be advertizing that someone got deleted for anything. That's the mod's job, if they really think it's needed. Also, getting angry at the mods won't do anything for you.
Myrth
08-11-2004, 00:00
Stephanie's prerogative.
Frisbeeteria
08-11-2004, 00:53
Stephanie's prerogative.
I'll back you guys over angry players 99% of the time, but this time you're wrong, Myrth.

When a mod is personally involved as a player and not as a mod, then she should not use her mod abilities (or ask that you do so) to remove offending materials.

If a "disinterested" mod were to rule that Colodia's sig is flamebaiting in and of itself, that's fair. For Steph to say, "Colodia shouldn't be pointing out my flaws" is an unfair use of mod powers.


I think you need to revisit this as neutral parties, not as friends of Steph. In this case, you must separate the player from the job.
Myrth
08-11-2004, 01:01
My statement stands.

You don't even know it WAS Steph who did it, so please stop making assumptions.
Colodia
08-11-2004, 01:13
A comment from a mod who actually cares what people think, por favor?
Unfree People
08-11-2004, 01:24
I have no idea who edited your sig or what it even said, but given that it appears as though it was essentially airing dirty laundry, i.e. a strong disagreement between two members of the staff, and likely not very complimentary to either Steph or Scolo, I can't disagree that its removal was appropriate.
Tuesday Heights
08-11-2004, 01:39
You don't even know it WAS Steph who did it, so please stop making assumptions.

The statement Stephanie's prerogative. would seem to denote, at least in my understanding of the word and its use, that she had something to do with it. I could be wrong, but I'm just pointing out my interpretation in line with Fris' statement.
Myrth
08-11-2004, 01:42
I have no way of telling who edits anyone's signatures in the forum.
Colodia
08-11-2004, 02:00
I have no idea who edited your sig or what it even said, but given that it appears as though it was essentially airing dirty laundry, i.e. a strong disagreement between two members of the staff, and likely not very complimentary to either Steph or Scolo, I can't disagree that its removal was appropriate.
but why is that considered a violation? It's not like Scolo was telling Steph to piss off.

Here's the closest I can get to the quote...

Steph, please don't post flamebait!
NOT
BLOODY
NOW.

And that was it.
Myrth
08-11-2004, 02:02
'Because we said so' is the best answer we're at liberty to give.
Unfree People
08-11-2004, 02:05
but why is that considered a violation? It's not like Scolo was telling Steph to piss off.If you weren't warned, it was likely nothing more than a polite request to not make our job harder than it is. Tempers have been running high on everyone's part, and I'm pretty sure that displaying this in your signature for the world to see is no way to 'win the peace', so to speak.
Myrth
08-11-2004, 02:15
Or that.
Hersfold
08-11-2004, 03:18
From the sounds of it, Colodia, this argument isn't going to do anything for you. Suggest you just let it go before you do end up with a warning. After all, we've already had two mods pop in here, who are both going to be watching the topic.
Tuesday Heights
08-11-2004, 03:41
Suggest you just let it go before you do end up with a warning.

Colodia isn't going to get a warning for trying to figure out just what happened in regards to his signature.
Frisbeeteria
08-11-2004, 04:15
My statement stands.

You don't even know it WAS Steph who did it, so please stop making assumptions.
Myrth, I didn't make myself clear. I have no argument with a mod editing inappropriate bits out of someone's sig. My argument is with your statement, "Stephanie's prerogative".

I'm guessing that this was a simple and quick response to a question, and it's frankly irrelevant that it involved Colodia and his sig. I just don't want to see the "mods as players" given the right to censor as players. In this case, editing a sig that was negative may have been a mod's prerogative, but it shouldn't have been Steph's call to make. Mods take a lot more crap than the standard player, but that shouldn't put them above other players with regard to censorship.

I don't mean to blow this out of proportion, and I'll drop it here. I just wanted to point out the perception that mods can defend themselves in ways that other players can't is not going to endear the lot of you with the "all mods are biased" crowd. I just don't want you to give them any more ammo unnecessarily.
Unfree People
08-11-2004, 05:45
Colodia isn't going to get a warning for trying to figure out just what happened in regards to his signature.
That's definitely correct. The only times people get warnings for inquiring into moderator action is if they do so in an uncivil or derogatory manner.
Colodia
08-11-2004, 07:02
That's definitely correct. The only times people get warnings for inquiring into moderator action is if they do so in an uncivil or derogatory manner.
Thank you Unfree. All I wanted was a definate and clear answer of why my sig was edited, or at least a decent explanation of why it may have been editted out.


We can drop the topic, provided there is nothing more to discuss by others.
Carinthe
08-11-2004, 10:21
I have no way of telling who edits anyone's signatures in the forum.

Is it possible that a Jolt moderator did that? Since Colodia is posting all over the place, I assume that the possebilities are remote.
Myrth
08-11-2004, 12:51
Is it possible that a Jolt moderator did that? Since Colodia is posting all over the place, I assume that the possebilities are remote.

Possible, but highly unlikely.
Stephistan
08-11-2004, 15:47
Scolo deleted it at my request. It was his post you decided to use as a sig. He was the author and as such had the right to remove it. If any one uses some one else's post as their sig and the author of that post objects they have a right to ask that it not be used. It's really as simple as that.
Stephistan
08-11-2004, 17:26
I believe the question has been answered.. therefore I will lock.

Stephanie
Game Moderator