Does a thread author have the right.....
.....to say who's allowed to be in the thread in General? I don't mean saying "Okay, Only this one person can post here. Everybody else stay out!" but one or two people with bad history or oppising viewpoints and such.
I'm asking due to a conflict in a recent thread of mine, but I have been wondering for quite a while.
New Granada
30-10-2004, 19:26
As this implicitly involves me, I feel compelled to add my two cents to the question.
I oppose the idea of people being permitted to declare who can and cannot post in threads that they start because NS General is a public forum.
On a more practical level, I believe that it is a bad idea because it would result in a great deal of 'spam' here in the moderation forum from people who want mods to warn those who they arbitrarily 'ban' from their threads.
The potential for misuse of such a power being granted to normal posters is much greater than any possible good that could come of it.
Also, there is a common-sense alternative called "dont respond to somone if you dont want them posting in your thread."
edit: Myrth is teh fazt tiper.
Redundant Empires
30-10-2004, 19:36
As the respondant clearly shows.... sometimes people will come up with an opposing viewpoint JUST to be argumentative. Otherwise it is quite the coincidence that they just happen to always have the opposite view on everything. THe fact that the same person always shows up in a thread opposing the same people over and over again could start to border on harassment, with the intention of forcing an individual to stop posting.
That said...
No, the person who starts the thread does not have any unspoken rights as to who can post and who can't. Part of the process of posting in a PUBLIC forum is the ability for the PUBLIC to respond if they so choose.
THAT said...
There is no common sense AT ALL involved, because ignoring someone who is posting in the same thread solves nothing. It has nothing to do with the fact that everyone else can see what they are saying, especially if they are being insulting or defamitory.
..that said...
You CAN however, place such people on your Ignore list, where you will NEVER EVER see a post from them again. Just click on their name to bring up their profile, and click on "Add So-n-So to your Ignore List".. then hit Submit on the page that comes next. Voila!.. from now on, whenever they post in a thread, all you see is that that person is on your ignore list, and you NEVER have to read what they say again.
No, the person who starts the thread does not have any unspoken rights as to who can post and who can't. Part of the process of posting in a PUBLIC forum is the ability for the PUBLIC to respond if they so choose.
In the RP NS forums, an author has every right to exclude someone from his thread, or basically do whatever he likes so long as no rules are broken.
Redundant Empires
30-10-2004, 19:46
In the RP NS forums, an author has every right to exclude someone from his thread, or basically do whatever he likes so long as no rules are broken.
Then that would be a semi-public thread, where the form and format is declared beforehand, and not a public forum. My mistake was assuming she was talking about a public thread issue, and not about EVERY SINGLE POSSIBILITY FOR FORUM USEAGE IN THE FRIGGIN GALAXY.
In which case, the answer would have to be YES, you can indeed limit who can post replies in your thread. Providing it is on a board where you are a mod or an admin, and you have the power to designate different users into different groups, and exclude certain individuals from taking part in specific threads on your board.
But that really doesn't apply here, does it?
The mods have ruled, in the past, that in forums other than General, an author has the right to bar someone from posting to the thread. Should they continue to do so, the mods have, in the past, treated it as a rules violation.
I have no idea what you're ranting about.
Dread Lady Nathicana
30-10-2004, 19:58
Well Raem, as General is the only forum that was in question in the original post, I've no idea what you're doing clouding the issue with what is or is not appropriate in other forums. I would think the differences to have sufficiently been established. And as you can see, a moderator has responded with the answer, so ... yeah.
New Granada
30-10-2004, 19:59
The mods have ruled, in the past, that in forums other than General, an author has the right to bar someone from posting to the thread. Should they continue to do so, the mods have, in the past, treated it as a rules violation.
I have no idea what you're ranting about.
The issue being brought up today concerns the general forum specifically.
Redundant Empires
30-10-2004, 20:00
Let me make it clear then
.....to say who's allowed to be in the thread in General
so I said
No, the person who starts the thread does not have any unspoken rights as to who can post and who can't
where you chimed in with
In the RP NS forums, an author has every right to exclude someone from his thread, or basically do whatever he likes so long as no rules are broken.
Which had nothing to do with the facts involved with posting in General threads, which was what she asked about AND was what I was replying to. It doesn't matter if the rules allow for people to have monkies flying out of their butts in the Role Playing Nationstates threads. That in no way applies to the situation at hand here.
Well, Nathi, as I wasn't even talking about the General forum, since Myrth handled that rather neatly, I had moved on to related subject; I replied to a part of his post that seemed to imply he felt it was never an author's right to bar someone from his thread. I wasn't clouding any issue, and I'd appreciate it if you'd read what you were responding to.
That said, I see what RE meant now.
Dread Lady Nathicana
30-10-2004, 21:08
I did read, Raem - and from the other's comments, it would seem I'm not the only one thinking you're the one who didn't. It's always good to be able to follow one's own advice, no?
Let's make this even clearer:
.....to say who's allowed to be in the thread in General?
Nope.