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The region of "The 10000 islands" has been created with the exact same world factbook entry as the original "10000 Islands" by an invader nation called Anaxatus Catero.

"The 10000 Islands
World Factbook Entry: A picturesque archipelago of islands, the 10000 Islands region, renowned for its white-sand beaches and blue-green waves, is both a prosperous center of culture & a well-armed defense territory.

This region defends others in need through TITO (Ten thousand Islands Treaty Organization.) We have defended over 175 regions to date & are allied with the Urbanites. To join TITO, go to the 10000 Islands Welcome Center in the forum & sign up.

http://10000islands.proboards21.com/index.cgi
(sign up using the name of your nation)


UN Delegate: None.

Founder: The Eternal City of Anaxatus Catero"

He even uses our forum link.

Anaxatus Catero is now a Delete on Sight account, as this is hardly his first run-in with us. He's multid with at least three different sets of accounts, and now this. If anyone should come across any information about his reincarnations, send the info to the Moderation staff immediately. Known puppets include: 'al_quaeda_olympic_team', 'the_house_of_saud', 'beautiful_scars', 'fleeting_shadows', and 'the_flesh_eating_ghoul.'

They're all deleted now, though.

But is what he did legal (in creating "The 10000 Islands")?

I hope so.
It may be annoying for those who own, say "10000 Islands" but there are lots of copy regions all over the nationstates.

For example you have all the "feeder" copies. Even a copy of the RR.

The main thing that was irksome was the fact that the new region had the exact same WFE as the original region, which speaks pretty strongly of the user's apparent attempt to confuse other players. Whether its obvious that its not the actual region is beside the point. And, I'll note that 'feeder' copies aren't quite the same, as the original regions were not player created anyway.

I understand that (me personally) Melkor Unchained. I was only referring to the region name, not the WFE. The previous input was about if it was legal to create the region
I still hope is allowed to create regions with a "addition" to the name if you want. Otherwise my region will get smashed to bits in a instant. (There is a region named "Ankh Morpork" my region is named "City Ankh Morpork" the difference between us two are about 70 nations... and yes.. our WFE's is totally different).

Better jump here before I go to deep in the waters..

If he changes the WFE is it still legal for him to own the new region?

Technically, yes. Except for the fact that if he logs into NS, the mods will delete him.

Ha. Sounds a bit like prohibition. Its legal to drink, but you cant make it, transport it, or own or purchase it. Sounds like this guy is pretty screwed.

lol, it would be a bit confusing.

Looks like some one remade it.

ive seen the region. Hes just having a go at Grub, with claims of corruption and tyranny and all the rest of it on TITO.

lol, it would be a bit confusing.

Looks like some one remade it.

He isn't deleted for copying the region. He is deleted for being a repeated offender with a "DOS" on his record.

There is another invader nation that has created a fake puppet and fake region. The only reason that they are trying to create these copies is in an attempt to fool people into thinking they are dealing with the real 10000 Islands. I respectfully ask that these copy-cat regions be stopped, again.

Region: The 10000 islands
Founder: The 10000Islands

This is at least the 4th time in the past year that invaders have tried to fool people and made a false 10000 Islands. I ask that a message is sent to that nation and all future imposters by deleting the puppet, the fake region and his main UN nation (even though he changes it every week or so.)

TAG

what about these people who keep remaking DEN regions ???

what about these people who keep remaking DEN regions ???

Highlighted word my emphasis of Malajhaliza's quote.
Please clarify just what you mean by "remaking" regions.

I understand that refounding an existing region is a legal NS practice as long as one does not break other NS rules to do so (like ejecting nations to achieve a successful refounding).

What happened with The 10000 Islands clearly is an attempt to be deceptive; to confuse players looking for the legitmate region.

I have helped refound almost three dozen regions formerly held by professed nazis, fascists, white supremacists, and invaders. It is an entirely different matter to refound a currently existing region (often lost btw due their rule breaking, making such regions devoid of nations) rather than obviously being deceptive and creating a wholly new region, like is with the case of "The 10000 Islands".

At a minimum, the holder of such a region should have to post a disclaimer in their region's World Factbook Entry, specifying that the said region is not the same as another similarly-named one.

Brad / Nolaerie
The Anti Nazi Alliance
Museums Creation Division

The region 'The 10000 Islands' is NOT an attempt to deceive people into thinking that it is the quote "legitimate" unquote 10000 Islands region (I always thought that all regions were "legitimate", but maybe Im wrong), by that meaning the home of the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organisation. This is obvious to anyone who cared investigate the region, as it is passworded (Nolaerie I would prefer it if you actually checked out the background before accusing me of things).

True, it is a 'parody' region in the sense that it is home to an organisation which shares the initials as the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organisation (TITO), but this is legal and mod-sanctioned (look at the region 'DEN', which claims to be home to an organisation called the 'Defenders Establishment Network'). The TITO which 'The 10000 Islands is home to is clearly marked as being different to the TITO which '10000 Islands' is home to. In fact the region is entirely different both in fact book, number of nations and founder. I don't see how anyone in their right mind could be 'fooled' by it into thinking that it was 'legitimate'.

I find it odd that Grub is by no means against the goings on in 'DEN', yet winges when such a think happens to his region. I would like to hear a mod ruling on this, if at all possible, so that the complains of these people can be ended.

good point, what is wrong with parodying someone (is that a word) you have to ask why they are parodying really, and what is DEN anyway and what is the significance of TITO

The DEN (take a look at the region 'The DEN' to see the home of the original occupants of the region 'DEN') is a raider organisation. TITO (the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organisation) claims to be a defender organisation.

This is obvious to anyone who cared investigate the region, as it is passworded (Nolaerie I would prefer it if you actually checked out the background before accusing me of things).

Um, I was just going to do that, when, um, I found instead that "The 10000Islands" is um, deat.

It would good to learn the latest news about this situation.
I see that there remains a few nations there.

If The 10000Islands nation was deleted in conjunction with its region's creation, should not the pwp be lifted?