NationStates Jolt Archive

I (and my friend Sniperco) have recently been ejected for 'Rule Violations' because of owning 2 or more UN nations. I've appealed and sent a telegram to one moderator, but still no response.

I understand the reason for this is because Sniperco has signed onto MY computer (as his internet is not so good) and the automated security thingy saw two UN nations from the same computer.

BUT, if you check the IP addresses where Sniperco has logged on, it is not always from my computer, its also from his computer.

So, moderators, lift the ban please. We'll fix our ignorance and be careful in the future.

Seriphyn

Im' sorry this has happened to you both, but as the moderators will no doubt say:

1) This is why we say explicitly in the stickies, and in the MANY threads that appear in Moderation each week, NOT to let other people who have UN nations log into your computer...

2) There are a menu of checks that are done to determine multying -- that is, it is not usually a single instance that triggered the red flag.

3) They don't have webcams to view each and every person who logs in at every computer; they must assume that two UN nations on one computer = cheating.

And also, that Sniperco has logged on from more than one computer is not a valid argument. You could log on from school, home, work, a public library, any number of places.

I'm sure my login record shows 2 different places that I logon from frequently. But if my roommate had a UN nation we'd both be kicked from the UN.

Im' sorry this has happened to you both, but as the moderators will no doubt say:

1) This is why we say explicitly in the stickies, and in the MANY threads that appear in Moderation each week, NOT to let other people who have UN nations log into your computer...

2) There are a menu of checks that are done to determine multying -- that is, it is not usually a single instance that triggered the red flag.

3) They don't have webcams to view each and every person who logs in at every computer; they must assume that two UN nations on one computer = cheating.

Yeah, but we thought that the mods would look at the other IP addresses that Sniperco has logged on, and see what computers he has logged on the most. Surely they would see that he has logged on more times on his computer then mine. Well, I think they should get a new system if it is done that way.

Also, how does having two UN nations in two seperate regions (for example) considered rule-breaking? I'm baffled, but I'm sure they have a good explanation.

You have ignored 2/3 of what ModAlert had to say. There are multiple ways in which we check for UN Multis, of which IP addresses are only one .

You both will have to make new nations with which to join the UN.
In the future, please make sure that you do not log in on another UN Member's computer, or allow another UN member to log in from yours.

Wow. There are some good mod suck ups in this forum!!!!!!!

yeah there are

Lets eat them...after I finish some business :fluffle:

Yeah, but we thought that the mods would look at the other IP addresses that Sniperco has logged on, and see what computers he has logged on the most. Surely they would see that he has logged on more times on his computer then mine. Well, I think they should get a new system if it is done that way.
If two people, each on a different computer, make one nation each and enter those two nations in the UN... and then one person gives control of their nation to the other person, then "the other person" is UN multying.

If you log on from your friends computer, then it looks like you gave control of your nation to your friend. Thus, we come to the judgement of "UN multi".

Also, how does having two UN nations in two seperate regions (for example) considered rule-breaking? I'm baffled, but I'm sure they have a good explanation.
With two UN nations, you can support two different Delegates at once. Hence, any UN multying is prohibited, regardless of what regions the respective nations are in.

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