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Gothicville was recently deleted by the mods. Why? Because I posted this messsage in 4 regions. These for regions are my allies and would ahve like to here this message.

The message was:

IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH!!
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Aurora is now an Invading region! We have taken control of Romania. The issue is up to you.........would you still like to be alligned with us or not? Please telegram me on your decision.

Sorry!

Regards,
~The Aurorian Colony of Gothicville 2.
~Foreign Affairs department, Aurora.

The regions were:

The Golden Hills
West Alerica
The Persian Empire
Republic of the United States

I posted that message in these regions with the nation Gothicville 2. I had no idea that was against the rules. I mean, they are my allies and i am sure they would have liked to know that I had truned invader and if they still wanted to be allied to me. The mods told me it was a recruitment letter....?? :( But if I did this with the nation Gothicville 2, why was Gothicville and Gothicville III ejected??

Now I have a new problem.......I made a new nation called Gothicville IV. This nation. I applied to join the UN, but they rejected the offer and told me I was banned........how is it banned.....it has never even been in the UN before.

I am posting this for support. I bet some moderator has done this to me who has something against me or dosn't like me.

Please tell me your opinion on this.....

Thankyou!

Please tell me your opinion on this.....

My opinion? Wrong forum. Moved to Moderation.

Well, posting regional recruitment / alignment spam is... spam. Has been for quite some time, and you've been explicitly warned about it through more than one puppet.

Seeing how you didn't heed the warning, and you are just one player behind multiple nations... your actions as a sum total count against you, not just the nation that did it. Think about it: If it went by nations instead of players, then someone could just break a rule, make another puppet, break another rule, make another puppet...

Which has been your tendency. We'd appreciate it if you stopped now.

I happen to be a ickle confuzed here myself. If he is asking allies effectively if they still wish to be so due to new diplomatic developments, whats the problem with that?

I do not understand what I have done wrong?

It was not recruitment either. They were my allied regions. I thought I was doing the right thing posted the message to them. Dont you think i have been punished enough. Yes I spammed regional happenings ONCE. Why cant Gothicville IV join the UN? All I ask is for you to bring Gothicville and just Gothicville back to life. I really have been punished enough. I have spoken to other nations and they cannot believed i was deleted over this. Please and I really mean Please and I will not do anithing like this again, bring Gothicville and only Gothicville back to life........

I think you re banned from the UN and your nations deleted b/c of to many multi nations. I dont think that is a recruitment letter. And I think the only hope you have is to ply to the Admins.

I've tried to speak with the admins and I was not multying....? Where did you hear that?

I think you re banned from the UN and your nations deleted b/c of to many multi nations.

You're allowed to have one UN nation, but as many non-UN nations as you want.

Yes I know I am allowed to have 1 UN nation. I didnt multy though. I was deleted for spamming, acused of recruiting. I was only telling 4 allied regions that I had switched sides.

Yes I know I am allowed to have 1 UN nation. I didnt multy though. I was deleted for spamming, acused of recruiting. I was only telling 4 allied regions that I had switched sides.

My post wasn't directed to you.

Would it be possible for Gothicville to be brought back to life? As I have said, I really have lernt my lesson.

Would it be possible for Gothicville to be brought back to life? As I have said, I really have lernt my lesson.

No. Then, exceptions would be made for everyone who apologized. File an appeal if you must - admin@nationstates.net - but I seriously doubt, as repeat offender, anything will come of it.

E-mailed :)

E-mailed :)

Good luck, but like I said, I doubt you'll see the ruling overturned.

I do not understand what I have done wrong?

It was not recruitment either. They were my allied regions. I thought I was doing the right thing posted the message to them. Dont you think i have been punished enough. Yes I spammed regional happenings ONCE. Why cant Gothicville IV join the UN? All I ask is for you to bring Gothicville and just Gothicville back to life. I really have been punished enough. I have spoken to other nations and they cannot believed i was deleted over this. Please and I really mean Please and I will not do anithing like this again, bring Gothicville and only Gothicville back to life........

Well, I can only assume that one of your "allies" has reported you to the mods. If you have proof that the founder gave you permission to post these messages, you might have a chance in your appeal.

No, I woudl say the mods were watching...

My name is King Cyrus the Great, and my nation is the founder of The Persian Empire.

If there is anyone that needs proof that this message posted by Gothicville was perfectly acceptable, than here it is.

Gothicville was an active member of the region The Persian Empire among other regions. He was also a foreign ambassador to the region Aurora, one of our allies. He has free reign to post whatever he wishes since he is considered a Persian Citizen.

I saw nothing in the post that he made about recruitment or about spamming. He was simply informing us of a change in his region's politics.

As founder of one of the regions that this was posted in, to say that the fact that this nation was deleted for it is simply outrageous. It is completely uncalled for and it was clearly a mistake on the part of the NationStates Moderators. I see nothing wrong in what Gothicville did.

Thankyou King Cyrus....

There is some of your proof. I also would say that Trekkers may have an opinion on this aswell....

No, I woudl say the mods were watching...

No, I think Carinthe is right. Either one of your allies responded or someone perusing through regions noticed it, reported it, and now we're here. Unless the mods have a legitimate reason to be watching your region, then, they will, but it definitely doesn't seem like that from this case.

I wish you luck with your appeal. I hate it when nations get deleted, for just four messages. I believe in your sincerity here, though I must admit that I can't believe that you are deleted just for that. You mut have had at least one warning before.

You mut have had at least one warning before.

Scolo's post seems to suggest that:

Well, posting regional recruitment / alignment spam is... spam. Has been for quite some time, and you've been explicitly warned about it through more than one puppet.

I was warned once. I spammed regional heppenings with a puppet to cover up my tracks in a region. I was warned, yes.

I was warned once. I spammed regional heppenings with a puppet to cover up my tracks in a region. I was warned, yes.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step towards solving that problem. Now, looking into solving this...

Firstly, stop complaining about this issue. Nothing will come of complaints except more punishment.

Secondly, for future reference, the best way to check alignments is to TM the founders of each region, and have them bring it before their local constituents. What you did was spamming, and also showed a lack of respect for your allied region's governments.

Thirdly... have fun, play smart, and remember... it's not whether you win or lose, it's how well you publicise yourself. If you lose because you fought a fair invasion, for example, you'll get more cred and people might be more inclined to treat you with more respect.

I understand.

I regret what I did. But I really didnt know I did wrong. If I had have known, I would not have done it.

Well, I guess whats done is done!

You claim it wasn't wrong, yet you regret what you did?

I don't understand. I do side with you about being deleted for sending out those 4 posts. That seems in no way to be spamming or recruiting. Don't regret what isn't wrong, stand up for yourself.

Also, if you haven't already, then check up with the founders/delegates of the regions you posted in. Find out if any of them asked the Mods to deal with you, if none did then get them to post their opinion and story.

It seems as though something is missing. Full IP deletion doesn't make sense under these circumstances. Would a Moderator please be able to give a full story on what happened here? Things don't match up.

I'm hoping this gets overruled. It seems unnecesarily limiting to me to disallow one to inform ones allied regions of a highly fundamental shift in ones regional politicies. I fail to see how this would classify as spam as it's both informational and targetted to those few who have a need to know: the members of the allied regions.

Ballotonia

Well here is a mistake:

I got this message when I applied with Gothicville IV to the UN. It is 3 days onld and has never even been in the UN....

United Nations
Received: unknown Unforunately, after due consideration, the UN has been forced to reject your application to become a UN member. This is because your nation has been banned by the United Nations for past breaches of rules.

How can you explain that?

Anyone?

Why wont the mods answer?

Same thing just happened with Gothicville V. Gothicville IV and Gothicville V are not allowed in the UN. They are less then 5 days old. Each of them. Yet the mods say they are banned......? They have never been in the United Nations.

you the person(ip) are most likely not allowed in the un

you the person(ip) are most likely not allowed in the un

Most likely? How would you know? I suggest you let a mod explain this. Unless Gothic IV is witholding information, I think there is a mistake made here. This somehow looks like partly moderation, and partly technical. Stating to many issues in one thread confuses the main issue of the deletion of your nation. Chances are that a moderator answers one part, and overlooks the other problem.

Why wont the mods answer?

They're busy, have lives outside of NS, and will get to this when they get the chance; just be patient.

I was under the impression that the deletions were for multying, as observed on the ROMANIA regional happenings...

32 minutes ago: The Republic of Heineken lovers was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
33 minutes ago: The Holy Republic of Karikatura was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
34 minutes ago: The Republic of Spadania was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
35 minutes ago: The Empire of Haules-Baules was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
38 minutes ago: The Oligarcy of Penelonia was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
39 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Currsniggit was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
41 minutes ago: The Holy Republic of Byonics was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
43 minutes ago: The Free Land of Bigtittia ceased to exist.
43 minutes ago: Bigtittia was ejected from the UN for rule violations.
46 minutes ago: The Commonwealth of Gothicville III ceased to exist.

Of course I do not know for sure and am not a mod, but that might explain not being able to apply for the UN, unless you are using a shared computer.