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The Jingoistic State of Propter Hoc in the region of Morania Lobotomus protests at its arbitrary ejection from the United Nations on the stated grounds of 'gross violation of UN proposal rules, specifically your offensive "Beautiful People Only" proposal'.

This proposal was as follows:

Beautiful People Only

We, the United Nations, hereby enact that all those who are not:

a/. United Nations members or delegates
b/. Women
c., Under four foot five

be taken to a small island in the middle of the Atlantic thereto to eke out the rest of their days thus allow UN delegates and members a better chance to spread their magnificent genes within the world population pool'.

The Jingoistic States of Propter Hoc asks on what basis can this submission - which gained 75 endorsements in the space of but five hours, be called 'grossly offensive'?

The Jingoistic States of Propter Hoc also asks why this submission was 'grossly offensive' compared to other submissions with such titles as 'GunZor' and 'Repeel Marijwna Laws Now!!!'?

Lastly, the Jingoistic States of Propter Hoc asks if that perhaps the more popular and light-hearted submissions - of which its own is a good example - were not arbitrarily deselected by the unaccountable so-called 'UN Intelligence Committee', then more nations would acutally participate in the UN's deliberations - rather than allowing it to be the stagnant, dull and lifeless rubber-stamp it has currently become?

I believe that this would be better suited in the "Moderation" forum.

Yes, this needs to be moved to Moderation; ejections are RARELY overturned... if you feel the need --> file an appeal: admin@nationstates.net.

Thank you.

I will take it to the Moderation forums then.

Certainly, it was an overreation by the Mod who took this decision.

Sigh.

Do I really need to explain why shipping all Delegates that don't match your description could easily be termed as offensive?

Sigh.

Do I really need to explain why shipping all Delegates that don't match your description could easily be termed as offensive?

Firstly, may I say how much I appreciate the way you preface your post with the word 'sigh' to announce that your attitude will be patronising.

Secondly, could you outline why you have misread my submission?. My submission is not about shipping Delegates anywhere.

Thirdly, having read the definition of FLAGRANT offences, it seems that the deportation of minorities may be considered a FLAGRANT offence. Yet, if we are - as you seem to be - interpreting the definition of FLAGRANT offences very narrowly, then UN Delegates/Members + the world's female population + anyone under 4'5" is actually not a majority of the world.

I hope you will reply to this post in a more helpful and friendly way. Many thanks

Firstly, may I say how much I appreciate the way you preface your post with the word 'sigh' to announce that your attitude will be patronising.You're welcome.

Secondly, could you outline why you have misread my submission?. My submission is not about shipping Delegates anywhere.Okay, fine. You are forcing the UN to act against non-UN nations, which means aside from being an offensive proposal, it also contains a severe Game Mechanics violation.

You're welcome.

Okay, fine. You are forcing the UN to act against non-UN nations, which means aside from being an offensive proposal, it also contains a severe Game Mechanics violation.

Thank you for your reply.

But what is wrong with you? Why are you being sarcastic to a genuine request for help expressed politely?

If it does contain a 'Game Mechanics Violation' then the penalty for that is the deletion of the submission and the issuing of a warning to the sponsor, not the ejection of the sponsor from the United Nations

You say that my submission is offensive. This is a more important accusation since I know this site is used by children and the implication that I would post anything racist, obscene or blasphemous is a rather nasty accusation.

So please could you define how you found my submission offensive? It does not demean or denigrate a minority as I hope I showed you in an earlier post in this thread. It was lighthearted and humorous and as such maybe inappropriate to perhaps the view that UN submissions should be worthy, prolix and deadly earnest - but is that enough reason to spoil someone's game because of your personal tastes?

I didn't think props submission was offensive. does anyone else?

What's up with this mod? Dude, lighten up and dont dis the players just becaus you can.

Beautiful People Only

We, the United Nations, hereby enact that all those who are not:

a/. United Nations members or delegates
b/. Women
c., Under four foot five

be taken to a small island in the middle of the Atlantic thereto to eke out the rest of their days thus allow UN delegates and members a better chance to spread their magnificent genes within the world population pool'.



Flagrant Offences
1. Radical changes to Game Mechanics - including but not limited to the following: setting up parallel UNs, Security Councils etc; allowing individual nations to decide whether or not to abide by resolutions; repeal proposals or proposals supporting the repeal of past resolutions.
2. Racist or otherwise "bigoted" proposals - including but not limited to the following: advocating the killing of any minority groups or deportation of same to other locales.
3. Other highly offensive proposals - to be decided upon on a case-by-case basis.

3 Minor Offences will get you removed from the UN, while 1 Flagrant Offence is enough.

Questions?

Questions?

Yes. Why didn't you read my post?

Originally Posted by UN Proposal Guidelines
Flagrant Offences

2. Racist or otherwise "bigoted" proposals - including but not limited to the following: advocating the killing of any minority groups or deportation of same to other locales.

Anyone who is not a UN Members/Delegates + the world's female population + anyone under four foot five is still not a minority of the world's pop.

If you really want to know where this category came from, it was based on a joke by Woody Allen in Casino Royale. Question for you: can you stop standing on your mod rights and just do the right thing? There was nothing bigoted or offensive about the dam' submission, and you know it.

Come off it, mods.

If you don't like the submission then delete it and that's all fine and dandy. Much as we love our Propter he can be a little bit nouncy.

But can we have our UN Delegate back pls? What Propter may or may not have done wrong is no way as offensive as the jew, muslim or gay hating submissions you do let through. Why are you picking on him?

You're welcome.



Are all mods this pompous?

[...]the jew, muslim or gay hating submissions you do let through. Why are you picking on him?

I'm not picking on him. I delete those proposals too.

Anyone who is not a UN Members/Delegates + the world's female population + anyone under four foot five is still not a minority of the world's pop.

There are about 1% more males in the world than there are females. About 10% of the world's population is under the age of 4 years.
Therefore, anyone who is not a UN Member/Delegate + the world's female population + anyone under four foot five is a minority of the world's pop.

You've had your answer, this matter is closed.

Oh, and way to use puppets to support your plea, Propter Hoc. Or should I refer to you as Rastapopolous, or maybe even Cheese-Filled Crust?

Oh, and way to use puppets to support your plea.

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Look, it's obvious I am not going to get any help from the rude and aggressive people who are posting replies. Please could you send me either as a telegram or post in this thread an email to moderator who doesn't think helping a game player is a competition against their self-esteem?

If the mods reverse the ruling for you - which they won't because you are in violation of the UN proposal rules - they would have to do the same for countless others who have cried foul, when really, your proposal is offensive, ignorant, and for a lack of better terms, pointless.

If you want to appeal, do so at admin@nationstates.net, but I doubt you'll win as many others have tried, and most have failed.

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That little IP checker is a wonderful tool.

Oh, and way to use puppets to support your plea, Propter Hoc. Or should I refer to you as Rastapopolous, or maybe even Cheese-Filled Crust?

Do you mean the guys I work with in my studio? And who play in the same region we set up? Aren't they allowed to post? Or are you angry that other people also think you're aggressively going outside your responsbilities as Mod to pee off a player you've just taken a dislike to for the hell of it?

Hmmm, a UN multi, too.

That little IP checker is a wonderful tool.

I'm a designer and so are my mates. We're working off a LAN. What's your problem?

There are about 1% more males in the world than there are females. About 10% of the world's population is under the age of 4 years.
Therefore, anyone who is not a UN Member/Delegate + the world's female population + anyone under four foot five is a minority of the world's pop.

You've had your answer, this matter is closed.

Prop was right. You are pompous.

I'm a designer and so are my mates. We're working off a LAN. What's your problem?

Why should we believe that, when we hear similar stories from just about everyone who we catch with multiple UN nations or whatnot?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274575

Anywho, there's no reason for this to continue. Have a nice day.