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Cuba griefing

Zandra
04-10-2004, 08:56
Cuba

World Factbook Entry: ~GOODMORNING CUBA I claim this regions in the name of H.A.A.Z. and my species. You will obey I, I-COCKAROACH will administer the transition government. There will be no immigration into Cuba until further notice. Friend or Foe

DO NOT COMPLAIN, WE WON'T LISTEN!

¡Viva la Revolución! ¡No Pasarán!

UN Delegate: FlagThe Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach (elected 91 minutes ago).

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The Largest Gambling Industry in Cuba

# Nation UN Category Motto
1. FlagThe Gang-Controlled Nation of The Latin KingsUN Member Father Knows Best State "Once a King, always a King"
2. FlagThe Dictatorship of Zorglum Compulsory Consumerist State "Ahahahahahahaha !"
3. FlagThe Republic of Hooka Monsta Anarchy "Look out"
4. FlagThe Democratic Republic of Velalsinnen Anarchy "Smelling roses is nice, but why not rob a bank?"
5. FlagThe Dictatorship of La isla de cuba Father Knows Best State "Viva la revolucion!"
6. FlagThe Allied States of GrimapoluziaUN Member Father Knows Best State "It Ain't ever beat"
7. FlagThe Disputed Territories of MrBling Corporate Police State "All you need is booze,broads and cuban cigars "
8. FlagThe Republic of Sweet Old-LadiesUN Member Right-wing Utopia "Life starts at 70"
9. FlagThe Theocracy of Abominable MuhammadUN Member Iron Fist Consumerists "All crimes are punishble by death."
10. FlagThe Sultanate of El Garbo Scandinavian Liberal Paradise "If you can't say something nice, just say what you like"
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Regional Happenings

* 25 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach updated the World Factbook entry.
* 28 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach updated the World Factbook entry.
* 34 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Rogue Nation of Future Pink from the regional ban list.
* 34 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Automated Factories of Humorless Automatons from the regional ban list.
* 34 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Kingdom of Kind Kong from the regional ban list.
* 34 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Kingdom of Moby Grape from the regional ban list.
* 34 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Queendom of Riot gurl from the regional ban list.
* 34 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Gold Tooth Grin of Sheik Yarbootie from the regional ban list.
* 35 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Rogue Nation of Skaten MoFo from the regional ban list.
* 35 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach removed The Banana shaped smoke rings of Smoking Monkey from the regional ban list.

Cuba Civil Headquarters

Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.
Lodged From Message
4 days ago The Allied States of Isla Pena I have changed the password for a day as I believe it may have been leaked. Also; I am a native delegate so it wouldn't be griefing, just rather rude.
4 days ago The Gang-Controlled Nation of The Latin Kings well, seems like I missed something the six days I've been gone :D
3 days ago The Allied States of Isla Pena Yes, the game knocked me out of the delegacy and the invaders pounced on the opportunity.
13 hours ago The Quixotic Queendom of She-Devils Hello, I saw the Motorcycle diaries, so I just had to come.

Gael Garcia Bernal is soooo hot!
8 hours ago The Republic of Sweet Old-Ladies PUHLEEASE! Keep that to yourself.
5 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Murtunia II And now the region sinks back to inactivity. You guys were better off with us!
4 hours ago The Gang-Controlled Nation of The Latin Kings Maybe, maybe not. I'm not the defense minister anymore so it's not of my concern ;). So if BBM is here... where is Muerto en Llegado?
2 hours ago The Nomadic Peoples of Murtunia II Oh, he left.
33 minutes ago The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach Yeeeehaahhh!
26 minutes ago The Oppressed Peoples of I-Cockaroach No Password, no natives were ejected.



he claims no natives were ejected, but he kicked out the oldest native in the region?

xmls will follow.

current cuba banlist:


Burning Fluff
Curtis Lowe
Darkened Souls
Draco M
Gettersburg
Konane
Lindblum Grand Castle
Palmlands
The Natural Selector
Ballotonia
04-10-2004, 09:09
Per request of thread author, some XMLs:

XML 2004-02-13<NATIONS>saint_chascia_de_locke:comunista:ovana:supro:champagne_urbana</NATIONS>
XML 2004-03-06<NATIONS>the_revolutionary_army:konane:rra_captain:saint_chascia_de_locke:
nrth_malden_hist_socty:farm_bureau:taurin:acuratraxes:kimilianien:little_havana</NATIONS>
XML 2004-04-17<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:
porcine_peoples:guinness_extra_cold:adn:kimilianien:kabwoom:little_havana:eletathian:peniston_street :
guantanamobay:tingalahara:tobacco_industry:sandbern:hendon:che_guevara_fan</NATIONS>
XML 2004-05-08<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:
kimilianien:kabwoom:little_havana:eletathian:sandbern:hendon:farm_bureau:bernadette_soubirous:
nadejda_ii:black_vise:the_soviet_red_dawn:palmlands:norton_green:verence:martinezriera:
the_latin_kings:che_guevara_fan:retired_spies</NATIONS>
XML 2004-05-29<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:
little_havana:farm_bureau:nadejda_ii:black_vise:the_soviet_red_dawn:norton_green:verence:
the_latin_kings:greco-karpathos:jasonalia:zleort:the_real_fidel_castro:anti_nazis:tenjin:logologo:
allen_dulles:the_noble_frank:the_duke_leto_atreides:the_empire_of_teckies:sandbern:kormus_bell:
che_guevara_fan:mamoriea:soviet_greens:daze:the_big_enchilada:dommon:tpc_observer:sudam_h:
general_ogar</NATIONS>
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sandbern:che_guevara_fan:mamoriea:soviet_greens:daze:the_big_enchilada:dommon:tpc_observer:
analog_sunshine:melocoton:hendon:cu_ba:ressurection:leederisia:gamia:99_percent_fat_free:
kishistan:sudam_h:sweethome_alabama:ibmagainutrum:leon_jimenez:sir_arrison:axisjapan:a_snaaaake:
allen_dulles:chakep</NATIONS>
XML 2004-07-09<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:
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sudam_h:sweethome_alabama:leon_jimenez:sir_arrison:allen_dulles:chakep:cu_ba:robomania:
sire_arrison:patriagrande:cofanewel:isla_de_la_juventud:cuban_revolutionaries:inflatable_socks:
gamia</NATIONS>
XML 2004-07-30<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:
farm_bureau:black_vise:jasonalia:zleort:tenjin:the_noble_frank:the_duke_leto_atreides:
soviet_greens:hendon:leederisia:sudam_h:sir_arrison:cu_ba:sire_arrison:patriagrande:
cuban_revolutionaries:inflatable_socks:velalsinnen:cockaroach:new_grays_harbor:melocoton:
la_isla_de_cuba:dark_elements:xeno_hasu:the_latin_kings:zombo-ism:sandbern:gamia:saramtia:dommon:
zeroth:la_espagnola:zorglum:analog_sunshine:moon_city:flyin_vs:the_soviet_red_dawn</NATIONS>
XML 2004-08-23<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:
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melocoton:la_isla_de_cuba:dark_elements:the_latin_kings:sandbern:gamia:saramtia:zeroth:
zorglum:moon_city:flyin_vs:the_soviet_red_dawn:ethonia_ii:greenage:isla_pena:
martian_nation-states:cu_ba:la_espagnola:lakfakalle:tresville_domination:nutsaq:checkers1:
los_paises_bajos</NATIONS>
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martian_nation-states:cu_ba:la_espagnola:tresville_domination:nutsaq:checkers1:
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XML 2004-10-01<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:farm_bureau:black_vise:
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Ballotonia
Zandra
04-10-2004, 09:14
May 9th:

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
- <REGIONINFO>
<NAME>Cuba</NAME>
<FACTBOOK>Welcome to Cuba. Viva la Revolucion! Communist and Socialist leaning states are welcome. Capitalists will not be expelled but don't expect(m)any UN endorsements. I hope all natives return to make Cuba a strong region again. Natives who are still here, please give your former comrades a call. Those griefings and invasions must end!</FACTBOOK>
<NUMNATIONS>25</NUMNATIONS>
<NATIONS>konane:protesting_247:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:
douglas_c-130:kimilianien:kabwoom:little_havana:eletathian:sandbern:
hendon:farm_bureau:bernadette_soubirous:nadejda_ii:black_vise:
the_soviet_red_dawn:palmlands:norton_green:verence:martinezriera:
the_latin_kings:che_guevara_fan:retired_spies:benito_i:riera</NATIONS>
<DELEGATE>sandbern</DELEGATE>
<DELEGATEVOTES>3</DELEGATEVOTES>
<FOUNDER>0</FOUNDER>
</REGIONINFO>

april 20:

<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:
the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c-130:porcine_peoples:guinness_extra_cold:
adn:kimilianien:kabwoom:little_havana:eletathian:guantanamobay:
tingalahara:tobacco_industry:sandbern:hendon:che_guevara_fan:
foil:hatteras_light:vile_islands:sti_impreza:kyka</NATIONS>

april 23
konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:douglas_c- 130:adn:kimilianien:kabwoom:little_havana:eletathian:tingalahara:tobacco_industry:sandbern:hendon:ch
e_guevara_fan:foil:vile_islands:mobutu_sese_seko:eurosoviets_ii:farm_bureau:feistymeister:giant_sky_
laser:free_rr:jingleheimerschmidt:jessicka:vanarambaion:bernadette_soubirous:3_am_eternal:retepland:
tyson_paluck

april 15
<NATIONS>konane:protesting_24-7:pro_freedom:the_revolutionary_army:
douglas_c-130:karbine:porcine_peoples:guinness_extra_cold:adn:kimilianien:kabwoom:
little_havana:eletathian:peniston_street:guantanamobay:tingalahara:tobacco_industry:
sandbern:farm_bureau:vile_islands:grady_white:lbi:new_jersey_devil</NATIONS>
Mothers of Invention
04-10-2004, 14:10
Cuba Was not griefed at all !

It was by the booK Only 2 defenders were band. If one native was band that will be corrected. NO password.

How did you get the older xml's?
The Most Glorious Hack
04-10-2004, 14:18
Cuba Was not griefed at all !

It was by the booK Only 2 defenders were band. If one native was band that will be corrected. NO password.

A native was left on the list, and I removed them. As I stated in the entry to the HQ, the only further action was the clearing of the Delegate spot. Nobody's been kicked, and Glaaki won't stay Founder for very long.

How did you get the older xml's?

Ballo runs a script (I believe) that nabs XML data on a weekly (or so) cycle, and stores them locally. Pulling older data is just a matter of looking through the harddrive.
Mothers of Invention
04-10-2004, 14:46
A native was left on the list, and I removed them.

The native was on the banlist for 4 hours. That cannot be considered "left on the ban list." Shouldn't atleast one update happen before he is considered "left on". :cool:
The Most Glorious Hack
04-10-2004, 14:51
The current rule is "immediately".
Cassandrah
04-10-2004, 14:52
Cuba Was not griefed at all !

It was by the booK Only 2 defenders were band. If one native was band that will be corrected. NO password.

How did you get the older xml's?

The native had to be cleared from the banlist immediately after that. If I were you, I would simply stay there. There is always a next update.

Mistakes happen, and I think that Zandra takes the word griefe to easily in her mouth. This was probably just a mistake, which could have been easily corrected, without losing delegate position. My knowledge is that "defenders" aren't much of talkers. They yell "Griefe!" almost as fast as the boy who yelled "Wolf!"
Mothers of Invention
04-10-2004, 14:59
understood, "immediately".

The mod action has been accepted.(meaning we are ok with it)
Pope Hope
04-10-2004, 15:04
Mistakes happen, and I think that Zandra takes the word griefe to easily in her mouth. This was probably just a mistake, which could have been easily corrected, without losing delegate position. My knowledge is that "defenders" aren't much of talkers. They yell "Griefe!" almost as fast as the boy who yelled "Wolf!"

You obviously don't know very many defenders.

I wasn't around last night to know whether or not if it was the same group, but a griefing had been planned by invaders during the last invasion of Cuba. The only reason it didn't happen was because they lost to defenders. The moderation staff were aware that there had been talk of a griefing prior to that invasion.
Cassandrah
04-10-2004, 15:10
You obviously don't know very many defenders.

.

I always put "defenders" between quote marks. I think the meaning of "defender" in NationStates should be reviewed. Paswording a region without UN members is a bit of a harsh way to "defend".
Mothers of Invention
04-10-2004, 15:15
You obviously don't know very many defenders.

I wasn't around last night to know whether or not if it was the same group, but a griefing had been planned by invaders during the last invasion of Cuba. The only reason it didn't happen was because they lost to defenders. The moderation staff were aware that there had been talk of a griefing prior to that invasion.

H.A.A.Z. invaded last sunday and lost. No Griefing was planned! That is just absurd. You knew nothing of HAAZ plans.


That Post is so ridiculous, it can only be considered Flambaiting. Quit trolling for arguments. Spammer.

This should be considered settled
Crazy girl
04-10-2004, 15:50
Mistakes happen, and I think that Zandra takes the word griefe to easily in her mouth. This was probably just a mistake, which could have been easily corrected, without losing delegate position. My knowledge is that "defenders" aren't much of talkers. They yell "Griefe!" almost as fast as the boy who yelled "Wolf!"

i just don't like it when people break the rules, we have to learn them, so should they.
it's really not that hard.

I always put "defenders" between quote marks. I think the meaning of "defender" in NationStates should be reviewed. Paswording a region without UN members is a bit of a harsh way to "defend".

if you mean iran, that was after talking to the natives i was able to contact, and i also said they could always contact me if they wanted it removed.
and it's not so hard to make your nation un..

but i see you're still sore because i kicked you out that region, after you were on a "peace-mission" there without contacting the natives, who were actually quite happy with us defending their region.
Crazy girl
04-10-2004, 15:51
H.A.A.Z. invaded last sunday and lost. No Griefing was planned! That is just absurd. You knew nothing of HAAZ plans.


That Post is so ridiculous, it can only be considered Flambaiting. Quit trolling for arguments. Spammer.

This should be considered settled

she said she didn't know if it was your group or another... :rolleyes:
Cogitation
04-10-2004, 16:08
H.A.A.Z. invaded last sunday and lost. No Griefing was planned! That is just absurd. You knew nothing of HAAZ plans.


That Post is so ridiculous, it can only be considered Flambaiting. Quit trolling for arguments. Spammer.

This should be considered settled
First, Pope Hope seems to be talking about the invasion before yours. She does not seem to be talking about you (though I don't think the confusion is necessarily your fault as Pope Hope was a bit sloppy with her words by saying "last invasion"). ...or do you claim that you were involved in both the invasion last Sunday and the Cuba invasion before that?

Second, what constitutes trolling, flamebaiting, and spamming is ultimately at Moderator discretion, and that doesn't look like any of the above to me. Now, take a deep breath and calm down.

Now, does anyone have anything useful to add to this topic?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Crazy girl
04-10-2004, 16:09
yes, if you give me a few minutes :)
Cassandrah
04-10-2004, 16:11
but i see you're still sore because i kicked you out that region, after you were on a "peace-mission" there without contacting the natives, who were actually quite happy with us defending their region.


Yeah, I have read their regional headquarters. They are still thanking you. I would almost report them for spamming their message board full of "Thank you Zandra!"

You gave them so many choices, it is a wonder they could make up their minds :p I guess they also asked you to eject African observer? (SP?)
Crazy girl
04-10-2004, 16:19
*ignores carinthe's/cassandrah's babbling*

here's a post that i made on the adn forum for our new cadets, a simplified version of the rules.

if you want to use it, do mention the source, as it is simple courtesy ;)

Okay, these rules are important, because if you don't follow them, you'll get in trouble with the NS mods.

These rules are basically based on "playing nice"
No flaming, flamebaiting, trolling. Treat your enemy with respect, even when they don't do the same to you. Do not let them bait you into flaming.
Flaming them back is also not a good idea.
No spamming. That goes for Civil HQs, Regional Happenings, telegramboxes, and anything else I may have forgotten to mention here.
No multis. You are only allowed to have 1 UN nation. Period.
No excuses about using only one for defenses and the other somewhere else, it's all BS, illegal, and you will get caught.
When you are made delegate of a region as defenderlead, there's even more rules to follow:
You are not allowed to ban natives. At all.
I can't see a situation in which we would need to eject a native, but in the rare case where it is needed, you must remove them from the banlist immediatly.
We are allowed to ban as many non-natives (invaders and their puppets) as we want, and we can keep them on the banlist as long as we want.
When passwording a region, the password needs to be sent to all natives immediatly. Preferably, send it out before putting it up. The password needs to be telegrammed, posting it in the WFE or Civil HQ is not enough. And also needs to be sent to ejected natives.
This telegram needs to be clear and easy to understand, no riddles, wordgames, etc.

Example:

We have passworded your region to protect it against outside invaders. The password is:

Passie

If you have any further questions, feel free to telegram me.
Not following these rules will get you warned if you get lucky (2 warnings usually means deletion) and deleted in the worst case.

Some handy links:

Regional Control (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/page=region_control/region=region_name)

Put in the place of region_name the name of the region you want to check out, and you can check the banlist etc.
This only works when logged in.

XML feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/regiondata.cgi/region=region_name)

This link can be used to find out who the delegate is, what the order of entry is for nations (yes, it helps finding the natives) and how many votes the delegate had at update.
Again, replace region_name with the region's name that you want to look up.

Also, for both, replace spaces with an underscore.

If you have read this all, reply to this thread. No questions in here, please.

might be handy for the invaders ;)
Mothers of Invention
04-10-2004, 17:31
When we retake the region, are we allowed to ban all the defender forces that came after? We have done this befor, and there was no problem. But I thought I should ask due to the "rule spin" worthy of Fox news. :rolleyes:
Pope Hope
04-10-2004, 17:58
When we retake the region, are we allowed to ban all the defender forces that came after? We have done this befor, and there was no problem. But I thought I should ask due to the "rule spin" worthy of Fox news.

I believe you can keep any non-natives on the ban list for as long as you like.

H.A.A.Z. invaded last sunday and lost. No Griefing was planned! That is just absurd. You knew nothing of HAAZ plans.

I am a paranoid rule-follower. :P I never post anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. A griefing was discussed between two of the groups; one was dubious and the other wanted to do it. Game staff was asked to watch the region that night as a result, and did. I only mentioned it because what has coincidentally happened the very next week.

That Post is so ridiculous, it can only be considered Flambaiting. Quit trolling for arguments. Spammer.

This should be considered settled

No, that was ridiculous. And name-calling me "Spammer" doesn't make a bit of sense. ;)

I always put "defenders" between quote marks. I think the meaning of "defender" in NationStates should be reviewed. Paswording a region without UN members is a bit of a harsh way to "defend".

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I haven't been around much the last few days. The definition of "defender" comment is a good one for Gameplay, but not really relevent here.

First, Pope Hope seems to be talking about the invasion before yours. She does not seem to be talking about you (though I don't think the confusion is necessarily your fault as Pope Hope was a bit sloppy with her words by saying "last invasion"). ...or do you claim that you were involved in both the invasion last Sunday and the Cuba invasion before that?

Sorry about the confusion...I didn't sleep at all last night. There were numerous groups involved in the invasion last Sunday, and this HAAZ was just one.
The Most Glorious Hack
05-10-2004, 05:36
When we retake the region, are we allowed to ban all the defender forces that came after? We have done this befor, and there was no problem.

Of course. The Delegate position was cleared for ejecting a native, not for ejecting defenders. You might note that the defenders you ejected were left on the ban list.

But I thought I should ask due to the "rule spin" worthy of Fox news. :rolleyes:
Ad hominem ignored.