NationStates Jolt Archive


oklahoma griefing?

Crazy girl
25-09-2004, 11:24
can't get xmls or anything at the moment, on another comp, but could a mod look at this?



Oklahoma
World Factbook Entry: The Region of The Marshall Islands has liberated this once fine region. Then destroyed by defender influence, they were conned into putting a password on the region and ultimatally destroying it.

now a TMI Protectorate
Join The Marshall Islands
s7.invisionfree.com/the_marshall_islands


UN Delegate: The Free of Free Oasis (elected 2 hours ago).

Founder: Bandfreaktopia

Oklahoma contains 6 nations. [List all nations]

Like what you see? Move Crazy girl to Oklahoma today!



Today's United Nations Report
The Safest Nations in Oklahoma
The UN ranked nations on a variety of scales, to come up with a general indication of how safe a country is to visit.

# Nation UN Category Motto
1. The Compassionate Dictatorship of Gastgebistan Corporate Police State "Beware of the Tortoise"
2. The Homework Bog of Always Studying Liberal Democratic Socialists "Too much schoolwork."
3. The Conservative Utopia of Probstilvania Capitalist Paradise "In God We Trust"
4. The Land Destroyer of Dingus Egg Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Chicken or the egg? The Dingus!"
5. The Queendom of Floria Aemilia New York Times Democracy "Tragedy"
6. The Twinkly Shine of Lucky star Liberal Democratic Socialists "Twinkle twinkle.."
7. The Principality of Blobby999 Conservative Democracy "When you mess with the best, you go down like the rest"
8. The Free of Free Oasis Scandinavian Liberal Paradise "eleytheria"



Regional Happenings
1 minute ago: The Free of Free Oasis removed The Old School Raider of Feindsburough from the regional ban list.
1 minute ago: The Free of Free Oasis removed The Royal Empire of Drakemoor from the regional ban list.
1 minute ago: The Twinkly Shine of Lucky star departed this region for The Rejected Realms
1 minute ago: The Free of Free Oasis ejected The Twinkly Shine of Lucky star from the region.
2 minutes ago: The Queendom of Floria Aemilia departed this region for The Rejected Realms
2 minutes ago: The Free of Free Oasis ejected The Queendom of Floria Aemilia from the region.
5 minutes ago: The Free of Free Oasis removed regional password protection.
5 minutes ago: The Free of Free Oasis updated the World Factbook entry.
2 hours ago: The Free of Free Oasis became the Regional UN Delegate.
19 hours ago: The Free of Free Oasis arrived from The South Pacific.


Oklahoma Civil Headquarters
Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.

Lodged From Message
100 days ago The Homework Bog of Always Studying Shall Oklahoma never be freed of the plague of invaders?

*goes off to beg the mods for a founder*
100 days ago Sky skimmer Apologies to the natives of Oklahoma. Invaders pretending to be RRA soldiers took over your region, but the real Rejected Realms Army, with their GLA friends, have now liberated it, and hope you'll be able to enjoy life in this region without invaders coming to spoil your fun. For questions, please contact Siggi or Kandarin.

Sky Skimmer/Crazy Girl, RRA Commander.
99 days ago Sky skimmer As requested, original factbook entry is back up, and the place is passworded, password has been sent to the natives (and just tested by me).

Hope you all can enjoy more peaceful times now!
98 days ago The Conservative Utopia of Probstilvania I know that the country of Left Wing Pigs would like to be the UN delegate. He would have my support, but I won't join the UN.
98 days ago Neo wiggin What a stunt! I would never have thought that the RRA would sink low enough to do this. You invade us then you see you messed up and "fix" it. It looks like a publicity stunt. You guys are horrible. You just want us to be forever in your debt. Soon, you "defenders" will be brought to justice!
96 days ago The Homework Bog of Always Studying Oh, stop that. The people who took over the region were NOT rra, and the REAL rra kindly liberated us from them, returned our factbook, and secured the region from having to undergo any more invasions.

If you don't like that, well, you are MORE than welcome to find another region.
96 days ago Neo wiggin So you think. How do you know that the RRA did not attack us? I could see it happening. The RRA does a mission, if fails, so they pretend they had nothing to do with it! That is how I would run things if I messed up. How can we trust them? Cna they prove they did not attack us? Not really. And I think they did, and they will pay.
95 days ago The Principality of Will Rogers Turnpike Well I certainly trust the GLA.
They liberated Imperial Europe from Nazi zombie clones (no kidding!). And they returned Minnesota to the Minnesotans.

From what I know of the RRA, they too are cool.
Certainly that Crazy Girl Sky Skimmer is cool.

I agree with Always Studying. And look at our fine WFE!
54 days ago The Homework Bog of Always Studying Sorry all, I have been away. I certainly trust the RRA and think having a password is much better than waking up in the RR all the time.
3 minutes ago The Free of Free Oasis This region has been invaded by the Marshall Islands.

We are ejecting all nations over 25days inactive. And Removing the password.
Unistrut
25-09-2004, 11:25
Current XML for Oklahoma:
-
<REGIONINFO>
<NAME>Oklahoma</NAME>
-
<FACTBOOK>
The Region of The Marshall Islands has liberated this once fine region. Then destroyed by defender influence, they were conned into putting a password on the region and ultimatally destroying it.

now a TMI Protectorate
Join The Marshall Islands
s7.invisionfree.com/the_marshall_islands
</FACTBOOK>
<NUMNATIONS>6</NUMNATIONS>
-
<NATIONS>
gastgebistan:always_studying:probstilvania:dingus_egg:blobby999:free_oasis
</NATIONS>
<DELEGATE>free_oasis</DELEGATE>
<DELEGATEVOTES>2</DELEGATEVOTES>
<FOUNDER>bandfreaktopia</FOUNDER>
</REGIONINFO>
Crazy girl
25-09-2004, 11:26
Free Oasis Endorsements Received: 1 (Blobby999)

they kicked a few nations which look to me like natives, and removed some of their own from the banlist..
Crazy girl
25-09-2004, 11:47
thanks uni :)

and yes people, i did report it through the GHP..
Mothers of Invention
25-09-2004, 15:30
How do you get a copy of the XML thigamajig?
Unistrut
25-09-2004, 16:27
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/regiondata.cgi/region=REGION_NAME

Where it says REGION_NAME enter in the region you want to look at. Use an underscore or %20 where spaces would normally be.
Crazy girl
25-09-2004, 16:28
seems now it got invaded by fans of mine! :D

new WFE:

Oklahoma
World Factbook Entry: MARSHALL ISLANDS PROTECTORATE

25th September
1200 GMT

Oklahoma has been liberated from the Imperialists of the EAA and RRA by the Marshall Islands Military. Once harassed by the likes of Crazy Girl and the Freedom Fighters, it is now free!

This was the first liberation conducted by TMI forces. Regions can ally with the TMI through founder Gazzerville.

Now a TMI Protectorate
Join The Marshall Islands
s7.invisionfree.com/the_marshall_islands



some more messages in oklahoma:

5 hours ago The Free of Free Oasis We are looking for UN Nations to come in and take Oklahoma under the name of the marshall islands. You will be allowed the delegacy and to set up government. You will then be protected by the Marshall Islands and taught the ways of the NS Game.
4 hours ago The Federation of Spetznatz troopers Thanks for believing we're ignorants about the ways of the NS game!

Shows you clearly think you're superior.

Any way, I'll be settling down here.
100 minutes ago The United Socialist States of Reipland Ah, Mr.Gripsholm, cogratulations on your promotion in the DEN. When our small liberator force become greater, we would one day be intrested in allying with the infamous DEN! For now enjoy your stay!


in their home region:

4 hours ago The Beloved of Gazzerville We have successfully completed out first invasion, the region of Oklahoma was successfully taken in a covert mission last night by the Prime Minister and Myself. This region, once protected by the rejected realms army and the EAA. Is now in the hands of the Marshall Islands.

and in the RR:

83 minutes ago The United Socialist States of Reipland ----To all those of the Rejected Realms Army----

The region of Oklahoma (EAA and RRA protected) was taken this morning by forces from the Marshall Islands Military. The region password was removed and the region will be occupied for the next week until we find a suitable delegate. We hope that our actions will make the region much more active.

I do not post this to rub it in your faces, but hoping that you would be intrested since you part owned this region. I hope you join me in wishing Oklahoma the best for the future. For now we look for applicants for the delegacy spot in Oklahoma. All applicants to TG Gazzerville.

The Marshall Islands co-founder

Reipland

how cute :rolleyes:
Floria Aemilia
25-09-2004, 16:56
Seems I just got kicked from Oklahoma, which I've been in for several months now. Anyone mind removing me from the banlist so I can move back again? Thanks.
Ballotonia
25-09-2004, 17:05
XML September 10:
<NATIONS>gastgebistan:always_studying:probstilvania:orinsburgh:dingus_egg:
floria_aemilia:burgistan:lucky_star</NATIONS>

Current banlist: floria_aemilia, lucky_star

XML July 9:
<NATIONS>gastgebistan:always_studying:ghun:probstilvania:evil_dworf:
orinsburgh:normanistan:sniderlavania:apple_minions:left_wing_pigs:ohl:
neo_wiggin:will_rogers_turnpike:dingus_egg:floria_aemilia:burgistan:
lucky_star</NATIONS>

Both also appear in the intermediate XMLs I have. floria_aemilia also is present on the prior XML list of June 19.

(to all non-mods reading this thread: keep in mind there are considerations other than period of presence in determining nativity)

Ballotonia
Crazy girl
25-09-2004, 18:04
in the RR:

28 minutes ago The Beloved of Gazzerville Crazy girl, i thought you were an intelligent nation, one who has high powers. Surely you would understand the word "griefing" i mean you have done it numerous times before.

We did not "grief" this region, we moved in, removed that password, and are trying to spur life into this dead region - that you killed hasten to add. We kicked out two nations, because they are both over 25days inactive!

I just hope you do not re-invade it and put another password on, because that will be sad.

also feel free to check my telegrambox on this nation

and in their region (yes, i love copy-paste)

2 hours ago The Huge and Corrupt Empire of Ramyaraj On the forum we also post details of regions we have successfully conquered etc - so you can keep up to date. Our first invasion (Oklahoma) went very well and it only took two people. So if more people join the military we will become so much more powerful.
Crazy girl
25-09-2004, 18:06
and more rulebreaking:

in oklahoma itself:

7 minutes ago: The Free of Free Oasis password-protected the region.


18 minutes ago The Beloved of Gazzerville *In Walks Gazzerville*

Greetings Oklahomians, i am glad that you can be our first regional invasion. When my puppet, free oasis, said teach you about the NS Game, he clearly meant to enlighten you. As that is what we plan to do, you have not been very active recently. So we would like to help you learn about what you can do in the NS Game, unless you are just puppets, in which case - go away.
5 minutes ago The Free of Free Oasis The Region has been passworded, and those nations in Oklahoma that i know to be natives and have been active in the last 24 hours have received the password. The password will be removed on the Sunday.

Free Oasis


shouldn't the password be given immediatly to all natives, no matter how inactive?
Westwind Armed Forces
25-09-2004, 20:42
Gazzerville should know better than this. Password needs to be give to all natives, no restrictions.
Cogitation
25-09-2004, 23:40
"Free Oasis" has been deleted. The puppetmaster "Gazzerville" has been threateaned with deletion. The password and banlist have been removed.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Paapst
25-09-2004, 23:50
Regional Happenings

* 16 minutes ago: The Free of Free Oasis was eaten by The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation for griefing the region.

:D
Axis Nova
26-09-2004, 00:55
Owned.
Carinthe
26-09-2004, 09:18
He never saw it coming. The poor sod. He posted the evidindence of his griefing right in the middle of the civil headquarters.

"15 hours ago Free oasis The Region has been passworded, and those nations in Oklahoma that i know to be natives and have been active in the last 24 hours have received the password. The password will be removed on the Sunday.

Free Oasis "

Well, maybe he learned something. A small "maybe" that is, but you never know. ;)
Will Rogers Turnpike
26-09-2004, 14:15
Thanks to Crazy Girl & Cogitation and others who have thwarted the griefing and theft of Oklahoma from its natives.

I was away from the region on business but was alerted by our old defenders that these thugs were so presumptious about whether or not nations were "inactive".

There remains several nations in the region who had either endorsed outright the invasion and bad behavior; or have been clearly been shown to have been a party to this dispicable action. They should take notice when they read this thread to leave the region voluntarily immediately.

If us natives agree to invite in defenders, can these invader nations be legally ejected?

Please advise, for we do not wish to add to the wanton lawlessness that has already occurred in our fine region.
Gazzerville
26-09-2004, 15:13
Clearly the two nations i kicked out of the region were puppets. Because both had been inactive for a long time, and when the invasion happened, they suddenly woke up. I believed them not to be natives of Oklahoma but to be puppets.

I didnt hand out the password to everyone, because i didnt have the time, the password was only temporary and would of been removed today.

Again, i invaded a region that was dead, a password had been put on by defenders, and the regional message board was blank. Nothing had been happening, i hate regions where this happens. Where defenders insist that they should be destroyed to give them an easier job.

I would also of preferred a warning if you are going to do this, youve done it many times before, but clearly in some respects the Moderator was more heavily biased against invaders than others.
Will Rogers Turnpike
27-09-2004, 00:53
Clearly the two nations i kicked out of the region were puppets. Because both had been inactive for a long time, and when the invasion happened, they suddenly woke up. I believed them not to be natives of Oklahoma but to be puppets.

How presumptous can you get? Does Gazzerville not know that nations can be inactive for as long as 27 days without ceasing to exist? Furthermore, if any such nations desire to be on "vacation mode" they can be on vacation for up to 59 days!

Additionally, do you think we NS players are not multi-dimensional?
There's no sense in elaborating further.
Please Gazzerville, look in the mirror!

I didnt hand out the password to everyone, because i didnt have the time, the password was only temporary and would of been removed today.

Please re-read the World Factbook Entry. Otherwise maybe you too should've suffered the same fate as Free Oasis --
Regional Happenings

* 16 minutes ago: The Free of Free Oasis was eaten by The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation for griefing the region.

Again, i invaded a region that was dead, a password had been put on by defenders, and the regional message board was blank. Nothing had been happening, i hate regions where this happens. Where defenders insist that they should be destroyed to give them an easier job.

As shown earlier in this thread, the region was not dead.
Hey, it was still summer in Oklahoma. Have you not ever been there in RL?
Life doesn't resume until the full advent of football season!

Our long-time native Always Studying suggested a World Factbook Entry highlighting our great football. The good defenders copied and posted it to the letter. We also did not want to worry about finding ourselves in The Rejected Realms. With our blessing, the good defenders enacted password-protection for the region. Then they made sure every native had the password.

Like nations and regions in real life, natural life spans are lived as far as they can go. Some nations go on vacation (like mine -- I was doing refugee support work). Always Studying is, um, acting fully in his namesake. And so on.

Gazzerville, you and your buddies griefed the region because you thought you could get away with it. You thought we were "dead". Were we truly deceased, the region would not have even existed. From what I know about NS Game mechanics, regions cannot exist more than one UN update cycle without living nations in them.

Advance notice to visitors to The Sooner State: Like our beloved prairie dogs, just because you don't see us doesn't mean we are buried, never to return ;)
Cogitation
27-09-2004, 02:33
Clearly the two nations i kicked out of the region were puppets. Because both had been inactive for a long time, and when the invasion happened, they suddenly woke up. I believed them not to be natives of Oklahoma but to be puppets.
If you don't know for certain, then you presume them to be natives.

Also, nativity is a property of nations.

I should probably elaborate. Nativity is a property of nations, so if someone maintains two or more serious puppets as permanent or long-term residents of two or more different regions, then each puppet is a native of its respective region. So, a puppet can still be a native. It's not necessarily the case, but it's possible.

I didnt hand out the password to everyone, because i didnt have the time, the password was only temporary and would of been removed today.
If you don't have the time, then don't impose a password.

When you intended to remove the password is irrelevant. You must distribute any password you impose to the natives.

You can also have a responsible ally hand out the password, but this is risky because if your ally doesn't do his/her job, you can wind up deleted.

Again, i invaded a region that was dead, a password had been put on by defenders, and the regional message board was blank. Nothing had been happening, i hate regions where this happens. Where defenders insist that they should be destroyed to give them an easier job.
Your personal feelings on the matter do not excuse your violation of NationStates rules.

I would also of preferred a warning if you are going to do this, youve done it many times before, but clearly in some respects the Moderator was more heavily biased against invaders than others.
The penalty for regional griefing is deletion-without-warning.

...and while I'm not too fond of invaders, I haven't exceeded by bounds as a Moderator. For over a year, the rule has been that region griefing is punishable by deletion. So, no punishment was issued to you that was inordinate to the crime.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Gazzerville
28-09-2004, 14:33
i would bet my life on it...they were puppets, isnt it just a little coincedental that they come back from there 55 and 25 day holidays on the same day, within minutes, on the day that we liberate the region...hmm...also isnt it a litttle coincedental that CG had the same activiation time, they even posted on the forum minutes apart

hmm

i just guess it was on of those funny coincedences...oh well

enough of that, we accept your punishment moderators, we were very naughty :P

what about video gamers?? that was griefed by nasty nazis, spammed the message board, and they put a password on!

I call upon a liberation of this region, all defenders all welcome to attend, i will return the region to its rightful owners and away from those nasty nazis.

GAzzerville
Cogitation
28-09-2004, 15:54
i would bet my life on it...they were puppets
Nativity is a property of nations, so if someone maintains two or more serious puppets as permanent or long-term residents of two or more different regions, then each puppet is a native of its respective region. So, a puppet can still be a native. It's not necessarily the case, but it's possible.
...
enough of that, we accept your punishment moderators, we were very naughty :P
Good. Then I consider this incident resolved.

...

what about video gamers?? that was griefed by nasty nazis, spammed the message board, and they put a password on!
/me goes to take a look.

Failure to distribute password and use of UN multies in an invasion. Either is sufficient grounds for deletion. iModBomb.

Please remember to report these incidents to the "Getting Help" page.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator
Gazzerville
28-09-2004, 17:47
yup, what would i bother sending messages to the mods for!

I just thought it was a nice region, and i hate nazis. I particuarly hate the ADN for defending and returning the axis to the nazis. Freedom of speech should not be extended to idiots who have no idea what they are saying and then themselves limit what others say.
Frisbeeteria
28-09-2004, 18:00
Freedom of speech should not be extended to idiots who have no idea what they are saying and then themselves limit what others say.
Case in point ...
Texan Hotrodders
28-09-2004, 18:02
Case in point ...

coughcheckTGscough
Crazy girl
28-09-2004, 19:11
also isnt it a litttle coincedental that CG had the same activiation time, they even posted on the forum minutes apart



i would like to ask the mods to verify that "floria aemilia" (hope i spelled it right) is not a puppet of mine.
Cogitation
28-09-2004, 19:26
yup, what would i bother sending messages to the mods for!
To report rules violations.

Freedom of speech should not be extended to idiots who have no idea what they are saying and then themselves limit what others say.
Your opinion is noted. Just remember that your opinion does not dictate NationStates policy. Max Barry prefers that idiots be debated, not censored.

coughcheckTGscough
I didn't see anything incriminating in your telegram box or in Frisbeeterias telegram box. If you think I missed something, then please be more specific. You may telegram me personally if oyu wish to discuss this privately.

It's possible that you actually meant to remind Frisbeeteria to check his telegram box. In which case, you should have been a little more specific. :p ...not to mention being a little less off-topic. :p

also isnt it a litttle coincedental that CG had the same activiation time, they even posted on the forum minutes apart
i would like to ask the mods to verify that "floria aemilia" (hope i spelled it right) is not a puppet of mine.
Confirmed. I will, however, point out that whether or not "Floria Aemilia" is a puppet of "Crazy Girl" is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Game Moderator
Frisbeeteria
28-09-2004, 19:30
I didn't see anything incriminating in your telegram box or in Frisbeeterias telegram box.
(( Sorry, that was a rather public *private* reminder to me. Not mod business at all. Sorry. ))
Texan Hotrodders
28-09-2004, 19:47
I didn't see anything incriminating in your telegram box or in Frisbeeterias telegram box. If you think I missed something, then please be more specific. You may telegram me personally if oyu wish to discuss this privately.

It's possible that you actually meant to remind Frisbeeteria to check his telegram box. In which case, you should have been a little more specific. :p ...not to mention being a little less off-topic. :p

Rest assured, if the comment had been addressed to you, I would have quoted one of your posts and/or said this:

"Cog, you may want to check their telegrams."

I rather thought the fact that I hadn't quoted your post and had used the coughcough bit would have indicated my intent, but clearly not. My apologies for the lack of clarity.