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How can campainging for a political office be criticized as wrong??? I have the right to campaing for whatever I darn well please! Anyone know why I am being threateaned to be ejected from the region for running a failing UN Delegacy campaing?? I sure would like to know...

I have the right to campaing for whatever I darn well please!
Umm ... where is that right explicitly stated again? I seem to have missed it.

Umm ... where is that right explicitly stated again? I seem to have missed it.


Where is it specifically stated that I cannot??? That road can go both ways... I have been pursued one time to many for it. I have been threatened to make me stop at least three times and faced with ejection from the region, and yet, I find nothing to say that I can't campaign for what I want. They want me to stop becuase I am leading a "Failing Campaign"... ANyone from the US here that has heard of RALPH NADER???

No no no ... you specifically said, "I have the right". You then used a US politician to make your point.

May I remind you sir that this is not the US, this is NationStates. The Forums are not in the US, they are in the UK. The admins are not in the US, they are in Australia. The game is not public domain, it is Max Barry's private property. As to freedom of speech ...
Originally Posted by The NS FAQ
http://www.nationstates.net/images/nsarrow2.gifIt's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?

Ahahahaha! Hahaha! Free speech! No, it's not. I run this web site, see, so you have to play by my rules. It's like my own Father Knows Best state.
So I ask again, where is that right explicitly stated?

I understand that I do not have unlimited free speech... But if I don't, neither does anyone else. May I direct you to Factor Imperia's home page at: http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/56864/page=display_region

And just so you know, I can make a reference to probably any country for a politician, I am just from the US so it is just natural for me to use Ralph Nader! I understand I don't own this. Never said I did...

ANyone from the US here that has heard of RALPH NADER???


Also, may you notice that I prefaced it with Anyone here from the US???

But if I don't, neither does anyone else.
Now you see, once again you're wrong. Here I was trying to let you learn something on your own without having to shove it in your face. This being a simulation game, I was under the impression that people came here to learn how to run simulated nations.

Step 1) Understand the rules
Step 2) Begin playing

You have failed, young Paduan. Here is a clipping from your region's Civil Headquarters:The Armed Republic of Yatma
ZAMGOA, your campaign for UN delegate is turning out to be unsuccessful. I must ask you to stop campaigning or I may have to stop you myself.

---(Yatma)---Now here is a clipping from your region's World Factbook:Founder: The Armed Republic of YatmaWhat you have consistently failed to realize is that the Region belongs to Yatma. Yatma, and only Yatma, decides who is permitted to stay in the region. Founders have effectively unlimited rights to control membership. Yatma may or may not permit a Regional Delegate to have access to the Regional Controls, but it's Yatma's decision. There are restrictions on spamming and a few other things, but essentially it's a Yatmanese dictatorship.

If you doubt me, go read the Moderation forum. Better yet, ask some of the long-time players about the dictatorships in the Pacifics and certain other regions.

You have the right to bitch about it, but little else. Learn from this, young Paduan.

Observed:

Factor Imperia

World Factbook Entry: A growing, seeking region, Factor Imperia contains nations faithful to their region. They seek to stand out among all others, and believe what they want to. Nothing is enforced upon the Nations dwelling on the grounds of Factor Imperia.

Prime Minister - Yatma
Minister of Tactics - Sorrelia
Minister of Defence - Krullvia
Minister of Offence - Olkin
Acting Prime Minister - Dozier
Foreign Affairs Officer - Calsante
Recritment Officer - DragonSleepandDreams
Psy-Ops Officer - Astanna

UN Delegate: The Principality of Gaedriel (elected 11 days ago).

Founder: The Armed Republic of Yatma

Factor Imperia contains 32 nations. [List all nations]

Like what you see? Move Goobergunchia to Factor Imperia today!

Today's United Nations Report
The Largest Public Sector in Factor Imperia

Nations ranked high on this list have the highest proportions of their citizens employed in government administration.
# Nation UN Category Motto
1. The United Socialist States of SorreliaUN Member Democratic Socialists "Per Disiplium mea lux vedabis"
2. The Free Land of DifferentMoonsandStars Father Knows Best State "We don't know how far we can go until we try"
3. The Borderlands of DragonSleepandDreams Conservative Democracy "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus"
4. The Colony of EmeraldSpriteWolves Father Knows Best State "Send a message in a bottle and hold on tight "
5. The Theocracy of Thuul Psychotic Dictatorship "Convert or Die."
6. The Armed Republic of YatmaUN Member Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "They shall know no fear"
7. The Principality of GaedrielUN Member Father Knows Best State "Honor Virutis Preamium, Honour is the Reward of Virtue"
8. The Community of ZAMGOA Liberal Democratic Socialists "Together, Anything Is Possible"
9. The People's Republic of LexmarakUN Member Liberal Democratic Socialists "Act like you did, and you will allways be as you were."
10. The Dictatorship of CalsanteUN Member Iron Fist Consumerists "'Blessed El Presidente repressor of evils'"
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Regional Happenings

* 72 minutes ago: The Nomadic Peoples of Alien Gypsies arrived from The North Pacific.
* 109 minutes ago: The Oppressed Peoples of ZAMGOA2 arrived from The West Pacific.
* 119 minutes ago: The Community of ZAMGOA departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* 119 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Yatma ejected The Community of ZAMGOA from the region.
* 2 hours ago: The Armed Republic of Yatma updated the World Factbook entry.
* 1 day ago: The Rogue Nation of Long Since Dark departed this region for Llamastan
* 2 days ago: The Rogue Nation of Long Since Dark arrived from The YoungWorld.
* 2 days ago: The Republic of San Edgar arrived from The Pacific.
* 5 days ago: The Dominion of Grundite arrived from The West Pacific.
* 6 days ago: The People's Republic of Lexmarak arrived from The West Pacific.

Factor Imperia Civil Headquarters

Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.
Lodged From Message
10 hours ago
The Armed Republic of Yatma
ZAMGOA, your campaign for UN delegate is turning out to be unsuccessful. I must ask you to stop campaigning or I may have to stop you myself.

---(Yatma)---
2 hours ago
The Community of ZAMGOA
Why? So what if it isn't going well??? Anyone in the US here??? Think about RALPH NADER! Has he ever won? Does he stop campainging though? POLITICS PEOPLE! {By the way Yatma, how are you going to "Stop me Yourself?"
2 hours ago
The Community of ZAMGOA
*In defiance* VOTE FOR ME FOR UN DELEGATE! I WILL BE PERSISTENT IN THE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO YOU! TELEGRAM YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO ME! I WILL THEN TALLY WHO WANTS WHAT, AND VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE! BUT I CAN ONLY DO THIS WITH YOUR UN DELEGACY ENDORSEMENTS!

THANK YOU

--ZAMGOA--
2 hours ago
The Community of ZAMGOA
If Astanna thinks I am disagreeable... Let me post his telegrams...

The Rogue Nation of Astanna
Received: 2 days ago I do not belive that what you are doing is a joke.You have been going through regions campaining for U.N delegate so you can gain accses to regional control.

Blackfire.
The Rogue Nation of Astanna
Received: 3 days ago As minister of defence I give you this warning,
I have taken the liberty of tracing your history back and I have notified yatma of what you are up to.Stop campaining for U.N delagate or be expelled from the regeon.

Blackfire.
2 hours ago
The Community of ZAMGOA
I also feel that it is my duty as a resident of Factor Imperia to report any wrong doings of our so called leaders. I recently recieved this threatening telegram from Yatma:

The Armed Republic of Yatma
Received: 2 minutes ago ZAMGOA,

I give you one final, formal warning. Gaedriel is our UN Delegate and shall remain to be until she decides to give up her post. Stop campaigning for UN Delegate, as it is a waste of space on the notice board and the other nations do not agree with it, either.

---(Yatma)---

P.S. How will I stop you myself? In case you haven't noticed, I am Factor Imperia's founder. I have the power to eject you from the region. That's how.

I just want you to know, Yatma, that I will continue to campaign for the UN Delegacy.

--ZAMOGA--
104 minutes ago
The Oppressed Peoples of ZAMGOA2
Hello Yatma! I am Baaack! Just so you know... I am NOT and idiot! I can continue this forever if you like. I will also be campaigning fo rthe delegacy! At the moment, am angry for you ejecting me, but I will get over it.. In the meantime, I would like to point out to the Un People that Zamgoa will resign from the UN so I can join. I will therefore NOT be in violation of any game rules... There are no reasons to eject me!

--ZAMGOA2--

P.s. Ralph Nader and Karl Marx ROCK!
99 minutes ago
The Oppressed Peoples of ZAMGOA2
I will also quote our world fact book entry:

Nothing is enforced upon the Nations dwelling on the grounds of Factor Imperia.

If that is true, why was I kicked out as ZAMGOA the Original??? I should not have been forced to leave Factor Imperia and create ZAMGOA2!

Thank you

--ZAMGOA2--
96 minutes ago
The Armed Republic of Yatma
ZAMGOA, if you ARE going to send me hate mail, I will not object to it, but I would advise you keep them away from the notice board.

Thank you

Infinite Blade
89 minutes ago
The Oppressed Peoples of ZAMGOA2
I just have a few questions Mr. Contradiction... How have I been sending you hate mail... I have been PEACFULLY campaigning for the UN Delegacy. YOU, on the other hand, have been sending ME hate mail! I have posted your telegrams, obviously as that is apparently why I was banned from the region with my Original ZAMOGA, which was far more hateish than any of my posts. The worst thing I have done, is my motto, which you cannot change.

--ZAMGOA2--

P.s. I would greatly appreciate your endorsment for UN Delgate once the original ZAMGOA is out of the UN. I would also enjoy anyone elses.
41 minutes ago
The Nomadic Peoples of Alien Gypsies
this is not a recruitment notice.

may we ask, why are earthlings fixated on conflict? and why do you design your amusement to simulate conflict? your people seem fixated on war, violence, threats, conflicts. it appears that when you are unable to wallow in the blood and death of real conflicts and war, you simulate these things in your story-telling and in things you call games.

such games can have no value to your people. it is neither educational nor entertaining, and there is no sign it improves your ability to socialize since your species lack the ability to transform your electronic communications directly into physical presence.

worst of all, your people seem unaware that each act of violence, real or simulated, retards your evolution as a species and brings you closer to extinction. you will not live in peace on this planet until you change this. and until you can live on this planet in peace, you will not progress beyond your current superficial and insignificant dabbling in interstellar space.

you are extinguishing your species. humanity cannot survive unless it learns peace. we are telling you this because we who occupy interstellar space want to offer humans a last chance. do with it what you will. you will not be allowed to harm the rest of the galaxy, even if somehow you survive long enough and achieve enough to leave this solar system in which we hold your species in quarrantine.

we wish you the best though your species gives us every cause to expect the worst from you. consider your response to this message very carefully.



Oh, and Frisbeetaria is dead on. The RR's a much cooler place than that region anyway. :P

ZAMGOA: The Founder may eject anyone from the region for any reason at all. Do not continue harassing the residents of that region.

iMove http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/images/icons/icon2.gif "Moderation".

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

Learn from this, young Paduan.



psst...it's Padawan (very big Star Wars geek)

psst...it's Padawan (very big Star Wars geek)


I googled and got a bunch of hits ... so I accepted it. Besides, only the first two movies were worth a shit ... ;)

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